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Miss Pauldo

Posts: 9

Savannah, Georgia, US

I'm new to the industry and got contacted by someone who says they work with Elle magazine (Contacted through a scout). Has anyone experienced a similar scam or know what to look for in the scam? Says their name is Zachary Herman ( rep for the job)

Jun 09 13 03:57 pm Link

Photographer

SayCheeZ!

Posts: 18030

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Yes, lots of people.
http://www.ripoffreport.com

Jun 09 13 04:01 pm Link

Photographer

All Yours Photography

Posts: 2341

Toledo, Ohio, US

When a newbie model, especially one not possessing agency stats, is contacted by a supposed rep for a fashion magazine, it's likely a scam.

If you want to be sure, contact the magazine directly (look them up yourself.  Don't use any ph. number/website provided by the "rep") to verify his position.  Odds are they've never heard of him.

Read this:

http://www.ripoffreport.com

Jun 09 13 04:08 pm Link

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M Pandolfo Photography

Posts: 12116

Tampa, Florida, US

Here's an incredibly easy way to spot a scam...

If ANYONE offers you ANY job via email, it is a scam.

It doesn't matter who they claim to be, who they claim to work for, where the email originates, what they claim the compensation or job is, or how much they appeal to your vanity.

Don't get hung up on the details and content of any individual "offer."

NO modeling jobs are filled by someone scouting you online, or running across your portfolio on MM, Facebook, or anywhere else.

It really is that simple.

Jun 09 13 04:09 pm Link

Photographer

Miss Photog

Posts: 287

VALLEY VILLAGE, California, US

Elle or any other magazine will NEVER email you about wanting to hire you for anything, especially as an inexperienced model. It doesn't work that way. If you get a message like that, it is a scam.
Read the links and information MM has on scams (like the one posted above).
And if anyone says they are going to pay you ahead of time and they will send you a check and want you to them wire transfer money to the stylist, mua, etc., that's a scam as well.
pretty much...if it seems too good to be true...it most likely is.

Jun 09 13 04:09 pm Link

Model

Miss Pauldo

Posts: 9

Savannah, Georgia, US

Thank you so much! I was trying to look him up but I also found that the person who sent me a message on MM for him was hacked around the same time. So Zachary Herman is a no go... And it had no contact information for him.

Jun 09 13 04:12 pm Link

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Leonard Gee Photography

Posts: 16428

Sacramento, California, US

Miss Pauldo wrote:
I also found that the person who sent me a message on MM for him was hacked around the same time.

Umm, no. You should report all such messages and any claims of "hacked" accounts either by Contacting a Moderator or the "Flag this PM/Sender" link on the bottom left of the message. They can claim whatever they want, but any such members should be reported.

http://www.ripoffreport.com

PLEASE report any such messages or even the person sending it for someone else. Thanks.

Jun 09 13 04:22 pm Link

Photographer

DVP Photography

Posts: 2865

Broomfield, Colorado, US

You should read this as a start to the industry you want to join.

http://www.newmodels.com

Of course you can get a lot of jobs and have fun with internet llamaing too, such as MM.

Jun 09 13 05:55 pm Link

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Looknsee Photography

Posts: 21691

Portland, Oregon, US

Yes, do be careful.  There are tons of advice for avoiding scams & fakes -- read them all.

Some quick guidelines for you:

...  Big magazines don't have to approach amateur models from on-line portfolio web sites.  Chances are, Charlie from Elle magazine is not from Elle magazine (and is probably not named Charlie).

...  You could ask for contact information, and use that information to verify the person is the person he is saying he is.

...  The nature of scams is that they want you to send them money for minimum return.  Anyone wanting to send you an obscene amount of money as long as you send 10% to someone else is hoping you send that 10% before their check bounces.

...  In general, if they want to hire you, you shouldn't have to pay them anything.


Good luck.

Jun 10 13 08:16 am Link

Model

Hathora

Posts: 1

Grosse Pointe Woods, Michigan, US

Hi
I'm Hathora and I just recently had this experience.  I almost fell for it. I recieved the check and everything; I was going to surprise my husband with the opportunity I was offered, but I was so anxious that I couldn't hold off on telling him any longer. He saw the check and got so furious. He noticed immediately that it was a scam.
I just typed Zachary Herman in the Google search engine and the first results I got had model, Zachary Herman, and fraud all in the same link, lol.
This is ridiculous.

Jun 12 13 04:17 am Link

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Andzelikaa

Posts: 2

Kennesaw, Georgia, US

Hey,
I've just got the same message from Zachary Herman, he is saying that he is from ELLE magazine. Everything what he wrote to me in my email is so nice that I really thought that I want this opportunity! But now I am afraid that it could be a scam, because there is almost no information about this person in Google.

Andzelika

Jul 09 13 07:12 am Link

Photographer

SayCheeZ!

Posts: 18030

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Andzelikaa wrote:
But now I am afraid that it could be a scam,
Andzelika

You shouldn't think that it COULD be a scam.
You should understand that it's DEFINITELY a scam.

Jul 09 13 12:12 pm Link

Model

Andzelikaa

Posts: 2

Kennesaw, Georgia, US

Yes you are right! Thank you!

Jul 10 13 12:58 pm Link

Model

Kiyoshi Lee

Posts: 1

Atlanta, Georgia, US

I just got the message a few days ago he sent me a check and an email with all the info on what to do with the money.

Jul 11 13 09:53 am Link

Photographer

I M N Photography

Posts: 2342

New York, New York, US

Miss Pauldo wrote:
I'm new to the industry and got contacted by someone who says they work with Elle magazine (Contacted through a scout). Has anyone experienced a similar scam or know what to look for in the scam? Says their name is Zachary Herman ( rep for the job)

Cut through the chase,
Call Elle directly to confirm.
No one is offended by people that do their due diligence, unless the skepticism comes after sufficient and REAL proof has been provided.

Jul 11 13 11:33 am Link

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Marin Photography NYC

Posts: 7253

New York, New York, US

There really should be a better way to inform people when they sign up. I mean this is a constant never ending thing here. The scam info should be sent via email to all newbies. I am sure they can set up something here to do that. Not everyone would read it but at least it's a good start!...

Jul 11 13 11:55 am Link

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SayCheeZ!

Posts: 18030

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Marin Photography NYC wrote:
There really should be a better way to inform people when they sign up. I mean this is a constant never ending thing here.

It's been suggested that new members should have to read an article or watch a video and then pass a quick quiz about the subject before becoming a member.

Even if that was implemented, it probably won't stop many of the scams from happening.  Many of the people that fall for this type of scam won't listen to reality or common sense.  They prefer to believe a scammer that complimented them on their beauty than a friend or relative that knows the hard facts.

Jul 11 13 12:22 pm Link

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Tony Lawrence

Posts: 19225

Chicago, Illinois, US

MnPhoto wrote:

Cut through the chase,
Call Elle directly to confirm.
No one is offended by people that do their due diligence, unless the skepticism comes after sufficient and REAL proof has been provided.

Emailing large magazines might be wiser.   I don't think Elle, Vogue, W, or V have a scam dept.   http://www.elle.com/about/contact-us   Certainly this is a oblivious con but emailing means you are placed
with people who know and don't waste time confusing people at the magazine.   Hello, Elle magazine do you have a Zachary Herman working for you?   Answer:   Yes we do.   What they might not revel is he works in the mail room.

Jul 11 13 12:32 pm Link

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Marin Photography NYC

Posts: 7253

New York, New York, US

SayCheeZ!  wrote:

It's been suggested that new members should have to read an article or watch a video and then pass a quick quiz about the subject before becoming a member.

Even if that was implemented, it probably won't stop many of the scams from happening.  Many of the people that fall for this type of scam won't listen to reality or common sense.  They prefer to believe a scammer that complimented them on their beauty than a friend or relative that knows the hard facts.

A simple automated email to all noobs would do.  I don't suggest forcing it on anyone. If they don't read it oh well. Like anything else let the buyer beware...

Jul 11 13 12:42 pm Link

Model

SharonDCharles

Posts: 1

Tacoma, Washington, US

I was recently contacted by the same person googled it and the link to these comments were at the top of the search engine. I wish I would have googled sooner but they said they already sent a check. This has to be a scam because they sent a tracking number and the place in which it says to send the money for the fashion designer is the same place it was mailed from please avoid at all costs this may be bigger than just a scam.

Jul 12 13 08:51 am Link

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Trisha Ann

Posts: 1

CLINTON TOWNSHIP, Michigan, US

Scam same thing just happened to me I got the check and had my bank check it and it was a fake,thease people are not only after easy cash but possibly even human trafficking.

Jul 19 13 10:19 pm Link

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Hazel Pacion

Posts: 2

Livonia, Michigan, US

Glad we all had the same experience! He made it sound so nice and easy to just get the opportunity and then my mom called me while at work one morning and said a FedEx came and I had thought it was a recent catalog job sending me a copy so I told her to open it and she saw the rather large amount and knew not to cash it. And then this Zack guy sending me an email saying to IMMEDIATELY CASH/DEPOSIT it and then go right to cvs or w.e to send the rest to someone else. And I told him I wouldn't cash it till after the shoot since I shouldn't be paid before it and I haven't heard back from him. Coward.

Jul 28 13 03:04 am Link

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Sarah Ruest

Posts: 34

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Yes... Don't give them any information! SCAM.

Jul 28 13 09:45 am Link

Model

Hazel Pacion

Posts: 2

Livonia, Michigan, US

So he just called me and I hung up because I don't need to talk to any creepy scammers and i regret ever giving him any information, etc. And he just sent me a text "you dropped the call. I can now understand that you are a scammer. You will hear from our lawyer soon"....

anyone else have that happen to them? Told my parents and I did screen shots of all these posts to provide proof I'm not the only one that's been scammed. I haven't touched the check still and I printed all the emails. I sound like an idiot beliving him and telling him I wanted the gig but you're all right, after the check came and he told me to cash it ASAP it all sounded creepy so hopefully none of you have dealt with it.....

Jul 29 13 10:48 am Link

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Patrick Walberg

Posts: 42754

Salinas, California, US

Kiyoshi Lee wrote:
I just got the message a few days ago he sent me a check and an email with all the info on what to do with the money.

That one is definately a scam!

Jul 29 13 07:36 pm Link

Photographer

David Nelson Photograph

Posts: 348

San Antonio, Texas, US

Miss Pauldo wrote:
I'm new to the industry and got contacted by someone who says they work with Elle magazine (Contacted through a scout). Has anyone experienced a similar scam or know what to look for in the scam? Says their name is Zachary Herman ( rep for the job)

All of the advice you've gotten on here has been good. The most common variations of the scam involve an agent, scout, etc saying the noticed you and think you'd be perfect for the assignment.  They are going to pay you a large sum for the assignment, then they will say they are sending you a check for XXX dollars and your are to take your part out and forward the rest to a (MUA, Agent, Studio Mgr, etc).  So you deposit the check take out your payment and forward the rest, then in a week or so your bank tells you that the check was not good.  And you've been scammed out of the money you sent to the MUA.

Some variations include telling you that the agent cannot pay you (or some such nonsense) requires the money to paid directly to you and for you to forward the remainder on.

Jul 29 13 07:50 pm Link