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Models have you ever had a "skeevy" experience
Look, I personally could give a rats ass about escorts. So don't even think this is about this, but i am a bit tired of people pretending that mdoeling is just like working in a bank. So, let's put it to the population at large. Models, have you ever been in a shoot (or casting) where the photographer began acting in a way that felt "skeevy*." If you have been, would you be comfortable enough to share some details about that experience? * Skeevy covers a range of things, like touching, talking in a creepy manner, offering money or other things in exchange for sexual favors, writing you messages, blowing in your ear and calling you his little princess- you know what i mean by skeevy Jun 24 13 09:07 am Link Star wrote: If you think that some of those things don't happen to attractive people anywhere they meet with the public, you should check youtube. Jun 24 13 09:11 am Link Star wrote: your request sounds skeevy. Jun 24 13 09:15 am Link It happens from time to time Jun 24 13 09:19 am Link 2 experiences, both online. 1. I was once contacted by a woman who was recruiting models for a clothing store. She told me that the photographer would want to kiss me and I had to be okay with that, and that it's something I'll have to deal with in the industry. Instantly stopped contact. (I was unfortunately never told the name of the store, or anything that could have me report her). 2. I photographer I worked with twice started being creepy, saying things about how we should do a shoot with more cleavage and whatnot (I was 14 at the time). About a month after that, he told another model how hard it was to shoot her without getting a boner, and after that he became pretty much of a joke in my city's local industry. He was also very unprofessional, though I worked with him because I needed experience (this was again shortly after I started modelling). Jun 24 13 10:39 am Link About half the shoots I go to. There are creeps everywhere. I just deal with it long enough to get what was agreed upon then I'm out. Jun 24 13 10:47 am Link here's what i've run across locally: * a senior photographer was written up in the paper for saying bad things to the girls who complained to their school officials. this one was in the paper. * i was told about a successful boudoir photographer back in the film days who rearranged his client's labias during boudoir shoots and wound up being banned from shooting in Oregon. i was told this by a guy who had run a successful studio for many years and knew the people involved. * a modeling agency in portland was shut down because the owner was supposedly doing his 16 year old intern. this one was in the paper. * there was a local guy kicked off zivity amidst rumors of sexual favors i was also told by a model that she was violated on a bondage shoot and have heard some other tales of misdeeds. assuming at least some of these stories are true, watch out for horny guys who can't manage to control themselves (or simply don't want to). Jun 24 13 10:50 am Link Yes. Had a photographer ask me to put on a sheer shirt, nicely, after we shot portraits. Which was fine. I said, "No, like I said before the shoot, I can't shoot that. Sorry. Is it cool if I wear it with a swimsuit top under?" "Look, I already got the photos I needed, these are for you." "Well, unfortunately I won't be able to use them." He made a comment about "real" models and then we shot some more portraits. He offered me a drink of his starbucks drink, before he had any. When I took a drink, he started saying, "Oh, yeah, baby, suck it, suck it." Ew. Oh, then he started messaging my best friend on FB, saying we were clearly lesbians together, so she should be fine with shooting g/g stuff with him. When she said she was neither a model nor lesbian, he went into his spiel of how privileged she should feel that he's asking her. Had a couple of others, but that one was the most uncomfortable. Jun 24 13 10:53 am Link FredSugar wrote: It's a different situation when you have to show up in a one-on-one scenario day after day. Jun 24 13 10:54 am Link nyk fury wrote: +1 Jun 24 13 10:56 am Link Star wrote: This happens? Jun 24 13 11:07 am Link yep. a few times. had a photographer decide it was cool for him to start touching me inappropriately during a pre-shoot "interview/casting." had another tell me he wanted to use me as a fit model for a swimsuit line, but I wouldn't be allowed to wear any underwear because it would get in the way of an accurate measurement. (I have a degree in fashion design school; don't try to bullshit me). and he told me that sometimes girls would get wet, but not to be embarrassed, this is strictly a professional environment. haha. WTF??! Jun 24 13 11:14 am Link I'm the odd duck, apparently. While I've had brushed with rudeness, poor planning and other annoyances, but never a skeeve/creep. Jun 24 13 11:16 am Link Don't know if it counts on the photographer's side but I once had a model proposition me (for pay, not a freebie). And in a non-photography situation, when I was running a telemarketing room, I once had an 18-year old telemarketer ask me to feel her breast since she'd never had an old man do that to her. I was about 45 at the time so I took a certain amount of umbrage at that. Never had anybody blow in my ear and call me his (or her) little princess (or prince) Jun 24 13 11:53 am Link In light of your statement in your profile, not sure why you are posting in the forums, and especially a post asking for "bedtime" stories?? "...While I have chosen to remain a member I want to publicly state that I am not affiliated with MM's management on any level. I do not approve of the management of this site and how it drives professionals from participation and would not recommend the forums to any person, professional or amateur. If you find my portfolio on this site from google or another form please do not associate me with the management or behavior of the management....." Jun 24 13 12:03 pm Link K I C K H A M wrote: Good point. The one on one could make it more personal. I frequently have others in the room at my shoots. Jun 24 13 12:05 pm Link DG at studio47 wrote: so basically you just want to break the rules of MM and address the person doing the posting and not the posting itself AND then be concerned as to why I feel the need to disassociate myself from this site? I posted that specific to the behavior of posters like you. Jun 24 13 12:19 pm Link Star wrote: Rollo David Snook wrote: Happens to me all the time... Maybe I should stop wearing tutus. Jun 24 13 12:19 pm Link i would never mention that to a model but it is something you can see in the images sometimes. but apparently there are reasons other than arousal for that to happen. Miss Photog wrote: Jun 24 13 12:22 pm Link regarding those stories have they determined that mayhem was to blame in any of those cases? seems like it usually turns out to be a kid who ran away (or was lured depending on your perspective) and doesn't want to be found. but it's not like a mayhem photographer snatched them at a photo shoot and sold them into sex slavery? Star wrote: Jun 24 13 12:29 pm Link I'm not a model so I know I don't count. But, I went to a local photographer meetup, to talk to guys better than me and see if I could learn something... NOT the case, I was so creeped out by the "Photographers" that showed up, I don't know how the hell the models stayed around to be photographed!!! Jun 24 13 12:36 pm Link Models say skeevy things all the time at my shoots. You are sooo cute! You want a treat? Come give me kisses! Want a belly rub? Yes they are talking to my dog, but still.... Jun 24 13 12:44 pm Link Paige Morgan wrote: Honestly, I think we fare a little better because we don't have the "hot girl" look. Not that you aren't hot, don't get me wrong. Jun 24 13 03:46 pm Link I'm proud to say I've yet to experience something "skeevy", and I'm hoping it stays that way, but it seems like every model goes through that at least once...I hope that's not the "rule", though... I've heard stories about other photographers being skeevy towards models in my area, so I have an idea of who to avoid at least. Jun 24 13 05:06 pm Link Yeah, my last skeevy experience was that thread about models being sex workers. Jun 24 13 05:47 pm Link Danielle Reid wrote: Half? You are either screening photographers poorly or are overly sensitive. Jun 24 13 05:55 pm Link I had a model hug me once, does that count as skeevy? I felt violated...  Jun 24 13 06:09 pm Link Danielle Reid wrote: That is a lot! Jun 24 13 06:09 pm Link Marin Photography wrote: I had a nude model hug me! Jun 24 13 06:10 pm Link Jerry Nemeth wrote: Wow! Totally inappropriate behavior! But cool...LOL Jun 24 13 06:29 pm Link I once had a photographer, without asking, grab my boob to 'rearrange' it when I was in the middle of a nude shoot. I was so stunned I didn't say anything, but when he went to adjust my thigh I was like "Um. Excuse me" because I'm a pathetic weakass. And then I found out later he was probably recording the whole thing. AWESOME. Anyway nowadays I take photos of the license plate and establish 'don't touch me' from the getgo, which sucks for all the awesome photographers out there who would never dream of doing such a thing. I FEEL FOR YOU GUYS I'M SORRY. Jun 24 13 06:30 pm Link Star wrote: I've only worked with three photogs, and only one has touched me inappropriately. It's kind of embarrassing, so I won't say what he touched. But I know not all people are like this. I only bring someone if I'm able. And this is usually just my ride. I much prefer NOT to have a friend there, if I can help it. They're distracting, and I don't want them to see my lady bits if there is a slip! D; Jun 24 13 07:02 pm Link Chain Reaction wrote: Star wrote: Happens to me all the time... Maybe I should stop wearing tutus. Them damn tutus! XD Jun 24 13 07:13 pm Link Danielle Reid wrote: Half? Really? Half? Jun 24 13 07:33 pm Link nyk fury wrote: THIS ! Jun 24 13 07:34 pm Link KATHY JEAN wrote: Er, that wasn't what I said. You're taking what was intended to be a discussion out of context. I never stated my opinion one way or another... Jun 24 13 07:42 pm Link Hi, Shilo. I didn't quote you, paraphrase any of your comments, or mention you at all. I took nothing out of context. The thread continues ... Jun 24 13 07:56 pm Link I've been fortunate enough to never have had a creepy vibes experience. And by reading some of the replies here, I'm really happy about that. edit-- that's not to say I haven't received creepy messages though. I just don't respond to them. Jun 24 13 07:56 pm Link I have had a model try to solicit me and a few models asked me out after the shoot. does that count? he was really cute though so I didn't really find him skeevy. If they are cute is it ok? But I have never hit on a model. Jun 24 13 08:00 pm Link Danielle Reid wrote: Paige Morgan wrote: There has GOT to be more going on here than chance. Jun 24 13 08:01 pm Link |
