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Model

Samm Bate

Posts: 34

London, England, United Kingdom

I was just wondering from a Photographer/female model/mua and Hair stylist point of view which they prefer to work with, Built or Skinny males. I am a Skinny Male Model, and don't get as much work, was wondering if i should try and muscle up a bit? smile

Samm x

Jul 03 13 06:40 am Link

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Model

Anna Adrielle

Posts: 18763

Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium

I like both looks, they each have things working for them and things working against them.

You'll never be able to please everyone though. Maybe try and figure out first why you're not booking as many jobs as you'd like at the moment, before you change your look

Jul 03 13 06:42 am Link

Model

Samm Bate

Posts: 34

London, England, United Kingdom

Yeah true, Thank you! big_smile

Jul 03 13 06:44 am Link

Photographer

Zack Zoll

Posts: 3102

Glens Falls, New York, US

If you're going to compare extremes (you are awful thin), I'd say that skinny is the way to go.  I just don't know what the market for totally jacked models would be, unless you wanted to get into fitness modeling.  I mean, you don't want to frighten your customers smile

But I think that generally the 'ideal' weight for runway models is just slightly bigger than you are now (I'd guess around 140), and probably around 160-180 for underwear models.

Then again, you're 20 ... I'm guessing that if you stay in good shape, you'll be the 'ideal' weight in a couple years.  Unless you want jobs that require you to take off your shirt, I think you're probably good to go.

So, like Anna said .... see what else is going on there.

Jul 03 13 04:36 pm Link

Photographer

DOUGLASFOTOS

Posts: 8949

Los Angeles, California, US

I wished I knew...lol

Jul 03 13 04:42 pm Link

Photographer

Fotografica Gregor

Posts: 4126

Alexandria, Virginia, US

Agency standard male models are all I have use for here - and that only for commercial print work...

6'1 to 6'3   suit size 40-42 not overly muscled but defined  long and angular build striking look capable of androgyny.

Jul 03 13 04:47 pm Link

Photographer

rickspix

Posts: 1304

Vallejo, California, US

both

Jul 03 13 04:59 pm Link

Model

Henna N.

Posts: 3452

Brooklyn, New York, US

work with? I dunno, I don't work with male models.

But I prefer men who are either skinny or medium-muscled. I don't like the super built look at all. 

I suppose if I was to do a fashion shoot with a male model, I would prefer the same, I think it just looks better for most things.

Jul 03 13 05:08 pm Link

Photographer

nyk fury

Posts: 2918

Port Townsend, Washington, US

Samm Bate wrote:
I was just wondering from a Photographer/female model/mua and Hair stylist point of view which they prefer to work with, Built or Skinny males. I am a Skinny Male Model, and don't get as much work, was wondering if i should try and muscle up a bit? smile

Samm x

bulking up, male and female, is an absurd endeavor by cows. bigger is better. that's stupid. and very american. however....lean, mean, fighting machines: that's what i think not only looks good, but also operates well. like bruce lee. just forget about the part where he overdid things and gave himself an embolism. wiry, strong, fast. that's what i wish a whole lot more models would work towards. like hard core dancers and gymnasts. unfortunately they don't because the public wants soft and pretty, as do they.

Jul 03 13 05:21 pm Link

Clothing Designer

Atelier Benson

Posts: 2010

Austin, Texas, US

Slimmer for Fashion bulkier for Fitness. You could stand to bulk up with about 10 to 15lbs of muscle!

Jul 03 13 06:40 pm Link

Photographer

Stanley L Moore

Posts: 1681

Houston, Texas, US

I agree with the poster who suggested 10-15# of muscle mass. These are my ideals:
http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/120525/23/4fc0727595b52_m.jpg

and

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130610/12/51b62db2df29e_m.jpg

and

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130513/23/5191de0f97db2_m.jpg

I do work with bodybuilders but they are specialists and since they cannot fit the clothes they cannot do much more than fitness modeling, and little of that.

Women can get away with the skeletal fashion look but male models should look fit and trim, long and lean.

I would suggest a  bit more bulk if you are going shirtless. But long lean and defined look best in or out of clothes. You should look fit but not bulky.   A swimmer's body or a track body look good.

Jul 03 13 08:10 pm Link

Model

Elizabeta Rosandic

Posts: 953

Santa Fe, New Mexico, US

This might be a little off-topic, but with your look and built, have you considered doing some androgynous work? I think you would be really great at it, and you wouldn't have to "bulk up".

Jul 03 13 09:13 pm Link

Photographer

Adam J Caldwell

Posts: 290

London, England, United Kingdom

I'd much rather work with you than some bulked up beefcake looking guy who just loves his body far more than anything else in the world....including his mother.

I don't think ill ever really understand that kind of look. Some muscles is fine, but it can be pushed wayyyy to far.

Jul 04 13 12:06 pm Link

Model

GQ The Couture Model

Posts: 316

Seattle, Washington, US

This business is about proportions.In fact many years ago I had an agency tell me to gain wait then come back I guess that is why I am a late bloomer.

Jul 04 13 12:27 pm Link

Model

Tracii Taylor

Posts: 2184

Bordentown, New Jersey, US

Skinny.  Give me skinny any day of the week.  Actually, give me skinny every day of the week.

Jul 04 13 12:29 pm Link

Model

Andy Virus

Posts: 2230

Richmond, Virginia, US

It really depends on what the person is looking for with their work.  I'm not skinny, but I'm not beefy.  I just have tone.  When I modeled full time, I was skinnier, but I mostly booked androgyny and nude.  All just preference.

Jul 08 13 11:24 pm Link

Photographer

JenniferMaria

Posts: 1773

Miami Beach, Florida, US

Depends on what I'm shooting. For you, depends on what you're after. Commercial wants bulky muscles.

Good luck!

Jul 08 13 11:27 pm Link

Model

Julia Francesca

Posts: 2393

Maumee, Ohio, US

Me personally, if I were doing a couple's shoot, I'd rather have a built male model, but that's just because I'm not tiny and I want to look smaller. But thinner ones seem more high fashion. I enjoy work from both!

Jul 09 13 07:08 am Link

Photographer

Miss Photog

Posts: 287

VALLEY VILLAGE, California, US

neither...somewhere in the middle.
as a model & photographer, I prefer them to have some definition but not super built.

Jul 09 13 07:16 am Link

Photographer

Zack Zoll

Posts: 3102

Glens Falls, New York, US

Adam J Caldwell wrote:
I'd much rather work with you than some bulked up beefcake looking guy who just loves his body far more than anything else in the world....including his mother.

I don't think ill ever really understand that kind of look. Some muscles is fine, but it can be pushed wayyyy to far.

Yeah, not a beefcake fan.  For one, it's not healthy.  All those creatine and nitro compounds might make you bigger, but if your body can potentially lose 40+ pounds of mass in a single year after you quit lifting, that's probably a sign that you're not supposed to be that big.

I used to be a hard-core gym rat, and a couple years ago I decided I wanted to get a graduate degree, but I couldn't afford to quit working while I did it.  So over the last three years, I essentially haven't been to the gym.  I've lost some muscle mass since then, and gained some fat - I'm about one pant size larger, and I'm at a 40 jacket, where before I was right on the fence between 40 and 42.

But that's really not that bad, considering I've had three years off.  I mean I feel like a lazy, chubby, gross person, but I could be a hell of a lot worse.

A lot of people suggested going for 'lean and mean', and that's the healthiest thing anyone can do, never mind what looks best.  Do a protein shake or two if you want, but ignore the rest of the crap.  It's almost all bad for you, or unnecessary - and this is from a guy that tried a good amount of it.  Eating lots of spicy food will raise your metabolism, and if you're not vegan, drink lots of milk and eat lots of chicken.  And don't forget your veggies or your vitamins, just like your momma' said.

If you do hit the gym, make sure to do what I call 'real world' exercises.  Pull-ups, situps, squats, deadlifts and the 'clean and jerk', where you take a barbell from the floor, and lift it over your head, like you see on the Olympics.  Most of those exercises work muscles you use every day, so you'll be stronger all day long, for everything you do.  It's not important you use a lot of weight - just that you're doing it, and you're exerting yourself.  If it's easy, use more weight.  If it's hard, then keep the weight wherever it is.

Also, if you do the clean and jerk, buy a weight-lifting belt.  Just trust me on that one hmm

That will make you bigger, leaner, and stronger .... but not silly-looking.  Most of the beefcake-looking guys are doing stuff like bicep curls and bench-presses, and those exercises really aren't useful in everyday life.  They make you look jacked, but you would be really surprised how rarely you use your biceps every day - which is why those guys shrink when they stop working out.

If you don't want to go to the gym, just look for ways to get exercise in everyday life.  If you have to carry something heavy to a third floor office for instance, take the stairs, and take every other step, so you dip down low.  You've just done your squats for today.  Washing and waxing your car?  Do it all by hand, and you just got a good shoulder workout.  Mowing the lawn?  Try buying a manual, non-motorized mower - that will work out almost every muscle you have.

There are a lot of ways that you can become more fit, without actually going to the gym.  And if you do go the the gym, that doesn't mean that you need to look like Arnold.

Story goes, Hugh Jackman worked his way up to benching 350 for the X-Men movies ... and if I had to pick a "physically perfect man", if would probably be him.  I think Bruce Lee did something like 280 ...  That's an incredible amount for a skinny guy - and probably as much as those goofs from The Jersey Shore.  So being strong and healthy doesn't have to mean looking like a weightlifter.

I always give really long answers on those topics ... can you tell I miss working out? smile

Jul 09 13 05:10 pm Link

Photographer

Hank West 1

Posts: 28

Los Angeles, California, US

LA = 6'3" 175 lbs

Jul 09 13 05:21 pm Link

Model

dontae dickerson

Posts: 9

Milwaukee, Wisconsin, US

I think it depends on who your working with and what they are looking for.  And while I'm here since I'm new to the model scene, which type of modeling should i think about doing if you all don't mind me asking. I have a few pics on my profile and I'm in the process of getting some professional ones done soon.  http://www.modelmayhem.com/3062362

Jul 09 13 05:31 pm Link

Photographer

Mark C Smith

Posts: 954

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Personal taste? I'd prefer somebody pretty built and lean. Just more interesting to light.

Jul 09 13 07:52 pm Link