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Photographer

Gran Via 536

Posts: 340

Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain

Sometimes, when I take portraits of more mature folk, they can have lot of surface capillaries and blotchy skin, which I am struggling to remove.

I am getting to grips with frequency separation to clean up most problems in my images, but it doesnt seem to help me too well with this.

In this image, for example, I can remove the really obvious red capillaries, but the underlying blue blotches I cant remove without losing the 5 o clock shadow detail, which I want to keep.

For this image size I use a blur about 20-30, should I be using a different blur amount, or even 2 different separation sizes?

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2enajpu&s=5

Jul 10 13 01:29 am Link

Photographer

Jakov Markovic

Posts: 1128

Belgrade, Central Serbia, Serbia

Gradient map to fix color, then DNB to fix the lighting, but I think that color is the main problem, the red/magenta.

Jul 10 13 01:44 am Link

Retoucher

Argiris Maipas

Posts: 38

Athens, Attikí, Greece

only db
correct the color after db
this is only 5-6 min db ,no color correction
http://qualityretouching.com/Test/2enajpau.jpg

Jul 10 13 02:35 am Link

Retoucher

Mike Needham Retouching

Posts: 369

Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom

http://i40.tinypic.com/2ezh769.jpg

-28 magenta in selective colour adjustment layer, quick and dirty clone of thread veins and neck, dodge and burn layer and a final -15 red -9 green -2 blue colour balance adjustment layer - done 5 mins!

Jul 10 13 02:52 am Link

Retoucher

Joann Empson

Posts: 430

Walnut Creek, California, US

Here's a quick and easy method:

1. Run the Wavelet Decompose plug-in in GIMP with the default 5 layers of separation.

2. Go to the Wavelet residual layer (which is essentially all color information and no texture) and even out the color. And maybe touch up a few of the darker, spots in the 4th and 5th layers.

Here's the result (click the image to see it in full size):

http://i.imgur.com/fZYrbip.jpg

Jul 10 13 01:52 pm Link

Photographer

Gran Via 536

Posts: 340

Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain

Joann Empson wrote:
Here's a quick and easy method:

1. Run the Wavelet Decompose plug-in in GIMP with the default 5 layers of separation.

2. Go to the Wavelet residual layer (which is essentially all color information and no texture) and even out the color. And maybe touch up a few of the darker, spots in the 4th and 5th layers.

Here's the result (click the image to see it in full size):

http://i.imgur.com/fZYrbip.jpg

Got to love gimp! But is there an equivalent of this amount of separation in photoshop - I bought into it so I have to make use of it big_smile

Jul 10 13 02:50 pm Link

Retoucher

jl-graphism

Posts: 43

Paris, Île-de-France, France

just found out something, maybe you can use the mixer brush (if you're on cs6) on the low freq layer.

Jul 10 13 03:07 pm Link

Retoucher

Retouch007

Posts: 403

East Newark, New Jersey, US

Argiris  Maipas wrote:
only db
correct the color after db
this is only 5-6 min db ,no color correction
http://qualityretouching.com/Test/2enajpau.jpg

+1 This is the correct way. Only because then when you do your color work  (versions A, B and C) afterwards it will bring back all those imperfections you tried to cover just with changing the color values.

Jul 10 13 08:52 pm Link

Retoucher

Joann Empson

Posts: 430

Walnut Creek, California, US

Gran Via 536 wrote:
Got to love gimp! But is there an equivalent of this amount of separation in photoshop - I bought into it so I have to make use of it big_smile

The purchase of a proprietary software license resembles the purchase of spoiled milk. Just because you bought it doesn't mean you have to drink it.  smile

The adorable free software bovid has arrived, and her udder is full.

http://i.imgur.com/1x4KPn1.png
All are welcome to enjoy her fresh milk. She feeds on the grass of the Free Software Foundation and on yummy treats from charitable visitors who milk her regularly.

Jul 11 13 12:32 am Link

Photographer

SKITA Studios

Posts: 1566

Boston, Massachusetts, US

Joann Empson wrote:
The adorable free software bovid has arrived, and her udder is full.

http://i.imgur.com/1x4KPn1.png
All are welcome to enjoy her fresh milk. She feeds on the grass of the Free Software Foundation and on yummy treats from charitable visitors who milk her regularly.

LOL.  That's the funniest pro-gimp recommendation I've seen yet ;-)
I use gimp as well...I don't mention it though :-)

Jul 11 13 07:40 am Link

Clothing Designer

GRMACK

Posts: 2148

Bakersfield, California, US

Wow!  That GIMP one impresses me over the Photoshop version that still appears color blotchy here with some odd tonality/luminosity thrown in too.

I have CS6 and maybe a zillion $$$ plugins for it, but the GIMP one may instill something in me to try it now.

Aside, I'm disappointed using PS Healing Brush tool in CS6.  Makes the skin too smooth and loses texture to the point I need to pump in some Noise after using it.  The one in Capture NX2 does a lot better, imho, than PS when working on a RAW file.

Jul 11 13 08:32 am Link

Retoucher

Mike Needham Retouching

Posts: 369

Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom

I thought it was a mad cow, I was about to fetch the bolt gun! wink

Thought there was a lot of stubble loss on the GIMP, but it did do a good clean job, if not a little bandpass heavy.

Jul 11 13 08:33 am Link