Photographer

Schlake

Posts: 2622

Socorro, New Mexico, US

I sort of have this fascination with blank white faces.  I'm trying blank white masks, but actual blank white faces via makeup would be interesting as well, and show facial expressions.  I normally eschew makeup; I'd rather see someones face than a layer of powders and oozes and goo in a face shape over top of their face, so I have no idea how this might work.

Amazon sells "white clown makeup" which probably does what I want.  Is that what I want?

They sell large tubs, but I presume there is a worry of cooties (facial bacteria) if more than one person uses it, so I should buy tiny single-person tubs?  Or a big tub that I dole out into portions and not cross-contaminate?

Do I need something to rub it on with?  A brush or a sponge, or can the girl just fingerpaint it?  And a new brush or sponge for each person?

Do I need something to go under it, like a primer, or over it, like a varnish?

Do I need something to get it off with later?

Sep 19 13 09:47 am Link

Model

Rachel-Elise

Posts: 1650

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

Clown face paint would probably be fine, but I recommend also getting a white mascara, because you shouldn't put that stuff on your eyelashes. It wouldn't stay, anyway.

To avoid cooties, as you put it, simply make sure that they use a clean spatula to take the makeup out, and that no double-dipping ever occurs. For the mascara, get disposable mascara wands.

Oh, and makeup, done well, does not look like "goo and ooze" on someone's face.

Sep 19 13 10:28 am Link

Photographer

Rudolph Uhlman Photo

Posts: 164

Beaverton, Oregon, US

Rachel-Elise  wrote:
Clown face paint would probably be fine, but I recommend also getting a white mascara, because you shouldn't put that stuff on your eyelashes. It wouldn't stay, anyway.

To avoid cooties, as you put it, simply make sure that they use a clean spatula to take the makeup out, and that no double-dipping ever occurs. For the mascara, get disposable mascara wands.

Oh, and makeup, done well, does not look like "goo and ooze" on someone's face.

Having been a clown for a theater project I agree with the above statements.

Sep 19 13 10:47 am Link

Photographer

Schlake

Posts: 2622

Socorro, New Mexico, US

Rachel-Elise  wrote:
Oh, and makeup, done well, does not look like "goo and ooze" on someone's face.

If I can't see wrinkles, creases, or skin, then it's all goo and ooze!

Sep 19 13 12:11 pm Link

Photographer

Schlake

Posts: 2622

Socorro, New Mexico, US

Also, is it applied with this spatula you mention?

Sep 19 13 01:13 pm Link

Body Painter

BodyPainter Rich

Posts: 17933

Sacramento, California, US

A nice clean white even coverage that does not look like "goo" can actually be rather difficult to achieve.

Check out what Roshar did on the cover of the latest "Makeup Artist Magazine" for instance.

If you want a clean look, you might consider a MUA.

Sep 19 13 01:55 pm Link

Body Painter

Lisa Berczel

Posts: 3998

Corona, California, US

Schlake wrote:
Also, is it applied with this spatula you mention?

I strongly advise you bring in a makeup artist to get the results you want. I mean no disrespect, but based on your question, I don't believe you have the makeup experience required to the the look you want to achieve.

If you want to use this project to gain experience, that is fine - so long as the models and you have realistic expectations.

As Rich said, a good, even white can be deceptively difficult to achieve.

Some products apply best with a brush, others with a sponge. Rarely a finger. The model's skin type and color will behave differently with different products.

There's a ton of good reading in the Search.
This link is for "white face" you can refine your search.
http://www.sendu.me.uk/modelmayhem/?tex … rt_order=0

Sep 19 13 02:13 pm Link

Photographer

Schlake

Posts: 2622

Socorro, New Mexico, US

Lisa Berczel wrote:

I strongly advise you bring in a makeup artist to get the results you want. I mean no disrespect, but based on your question, I don't believe you have the makeup experience required to the the look you want to achieve.

If you want to use this project to gain experience, that is fine - so long as the models and you have realistic expectations.

As Rich said, a good, even white can be deceptively difficult to achieve.

Some products apply best with a brush, others with a sponge. Rarely a finger. The model's skin type and color will behave differently with different products.

There's a ton of good reading in the Search.
This link is for "white face" you can refine your search.
http://www.sendu.me.uk/modelmayhem/?tex … rt_order=0

Everything I do is an experiment!

Sep 19 13 05:32 pm Link

Photographer

Chicchowmein

Posts: 14486

Palm Beach, Florida, US

IMO you should hire a makeup artist

I don't see you as pulling this off

Sep 19 13 08:08 pm Link

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Makeup Artist

TheMakeupMan

Posts: 3759

Los Angeles, California, US

creating a perfect pociline white face makeup is an increbibly tough makeup to achieve trained and especially untrained

and its not like you just slap clown white makeup on the face or it will look exactly like that

if this a beauty or fashion look it needs to have life unless you are going for a flat dead look

one of the images in my book , one of the images I was  most well known for took me well over an hour to create a perfect white pociline  face with an element of life still to it

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa301/anthonygordonla/futureschock-2.jpg

i suggest as well at looking at some of roshars newest works

Sep 21 13 08:11 am Link