Forums > Model Colloquy > Photographer's picture in profile. Is it a plus?

Photographer

Don Garrett

Posts: 4984

Escondido, California, US

Eugenya Donald Photo wrote:

This made me smile  :-)

I personally don't think it's a bad idea, or makes them seem suspect.  I know a photographer who has his picture in his profile, and it doesn't make me think any less of him.  It's just what he wants to do.

Now, be careful. You are supposed to say something negative about photographers who use a picture of themselves, somewhere, in their profile/portfolio. Remember, this is MM !
-Don

Dec 07 14 11:19 am Link

Photographer

790763

Posts: 2747

San Francisco, California, US

Oh Yajhil,

Your posts are entertaining and interesting topics to address. I think you should post and showcase a proper image of you that best represent the kind of service you offer. Like it or not, photographers are SERVICE providers. If the proper image of your portrait represent the SERVICE you provide, it's good to showcase yourself.

Think about the realtors. You see their ads in papers and in local magazines. We all know what realtors do. Yet—almost all their business cards and their ads for their service has their portrait, properly and professionally taken. These portraits of the realtors ALL showcase their welcoming and happy expressions.

If you're going to take a proper self-portraiture for business purposes, consider that. Appear to be welcoming and approachable. You don't have to wear a suit. Wear something that's kind of say, "Hey! It's me and I'd be happy to accept you as my photography client(s)."

Dec 09 14 12:16 pm Link

Photographer

Erlinda

Posts: 7286

London, England, United Kingdom

I find it fucking hilarious that on the first page only 1 model posted and the rest were all photographers.

I guess they moonlight as models on their spare time tongue

Dec 09 14 02:22 pm Link

Photographer

Erlinda

Posts: 7286

London, England, United Kingdom

I have a few photos of myself in my portfolio because I was once a model and I'm also vain lol Sooooooooo with that being said, a photo is worth a thousand words. big_smile

Dec 09 14 02:26 pm Link

Photographer

Gelsen Aripia Images

Posts: 230

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Don Garrett wrote:

Now, be careful. You are supposed to say something negative about photographers who use a picture of themselves, somewhere, in their profile/portfolio. Remember, this is MM !
-Don

big_smile

I admit to being abnormally easy-going, but I still say it's not really a big deal.  Especially if it's clearly not a "dating site" type of shot.  If it is a "dating site" type of shot, I actually think it's funny.

Dec 09 14 04:06 pm Link

Photographer

udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

Ronald N. Tan wrote:
Oh Yajhil,

Your posts are entertaining and interesting topics to address. I think you should post and showcase a proper image of you that best represent the kind of service you offer. Like it or not, photographers are SERVICE providers. If the proper image of your portrait represent the SERVICE you provide, it's good to showcase yourself.

Think about the realtors. You see their ads in papers and in local magazines. We all know what realtors do. Yet—almost all their business cards and their ads for their service has their portrait, properly and professionally taken. These portraits of the realtors ALL showcase their welcoming and happy expressions.

If you're going to take a proper self-portraiture for business purposes, consider that. Appear to be welcoming and approachable. You don't have to wear a suit. Wear something that's kind of say, "Hey! It's me and I'd be happy to accept you as my photography client(s)."

I knew I could count on your business and branding insight to draw a perfect analogy, Ronald!

Makes perfect sense and was similar to what I have tried to explain.

Btw., I also shoot frequently the headshots for real estate agents for a mid sized company in NYC... smile

Dec 09 14 04:58 pm Link

Photographer

Art Silva

Posts: 10064

Santa Barbara, California, US

A photographers MM profile I beleive should not feature a self portrait but rather their best work. Posting an profile selfie, well that's what a personal website is for, like in ones bio section.

Dec 09 14 08:03 pm Link

Model

Amber Dawn - Indiana

Posts: 6255

Salem, Indiana, US

I think its a plus :-)

Dec 09 14 08:34 pm Link

Photographer

R Bruce Duncan

Posts: 1178

Santa Barbara, California, US

I have one.

Sadly, not a selfie.

A location shot with an ultimately cool car.

I had no idea.  A client lent me the car.

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/130319/14/5148d3b3ee4fb.jpg

It's way cooler than I am.

I put it there because I didn't want girls to think I was, well, a young hipster.

Expectations are everything.

Don't know if it's good or bad.

Just something I wanted to do.

Did I tell you about the time the MM girl wanted to see my id?

Hello?

That's my name above the door of the studio.

Oh well.

Did I say life is almost always fun, and when it isn't, that's fun too?

RBD

Dec 09 14 08:52 pm Link

Photographer

mophotoart

Posts: 2118

Wichita, Kansas, US

If a photographer posts his pic for his avatar etc, his/her choice...my comment was just an opinion, wasn't worried about it...some MM members do worry way too much about things...what lens and camera someone uses...(could care less...does the image work for me is the end story)  endless threads about your avatar....people change it constantly....and opinions that others have about things will always bring arguments..I just had an opinion on the subject matter, that was all...when I see a thumbnail, I am looking at something that will make me look further for the "subject I am looking for"....I just didn't get the part of posting a picture of myself was the best advertising for what I shoot...never had a model ask me to send my pic or decline working with me because I am very un attractive and old when they meet me...intention to offend was not there...

Dec 09 14 08:58 pm Link

Photographer

Worlds Of Water

Posts: 37732

Rancho Cucamonga, California, US

Another day at the office... lol

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/131224/07/52b9a80735a32.jpg

Toothpick Ted shot this pic of me (above)...

https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/131021/05/5265200f7cc87.jpg

At the same moment I was shooting this pic of Michelle Belle... Bride's Beach... Cabo San Lucas... 'Cruiseboat Photoshoot'.

Dec 11 14 06:49 pm Link

Photographer

MC Seoul Photography

Posts: 469

Seoul, Seoul, Korea (South)

The Grey Forest wrote:
By default: Models have their photos available, but many times
models take jobs/collaboration and have no idea of whom they
are meeting or will be working with.

Because it's their portfolio. A model's image is central to what she does. What a photographer looks like has absolutely zero bearing on their work. If you think it does, please do us all a favor and get out. What's important for a photographers portfolio is the work they produce.

Kent Art Photography wrote:
I think some people are confusing MM with Facebook, which, actually, these days, is a getting easier and easier.

I think a photo of a photographer in the photographer's profile is acceptable, in a portfolio is silly, and as an avatar is creepy.

The only time I could see a photographers picture being in the portfolio is if they were some kind of artist who did a lot of interesting self-portraits or something like that, and then it wouldn't be a straight head shot of themselves anyway. As an avatar same deal if they did some really amazing and unique self-portrait, maybe it is avatar worthy.

Victoria Morrisa wrote:
I like seeing what a photographer looks like when I'm assessing them and their profile, although it isn't an absolute must.

and that's exactly it there. Why do you need to see them to assess their work?  What possible relevance is there? Because if the way they look would remotely influence what you think about their work then it seems to me it's not only the work you're interested in.

Dec 12 14 12:22 am Link

Model

JadeDRed

Posts: 5620

London, England, United Kingdom

Discussions between models have led me to believe most consider it a plus. But it depends on the circumstance, if you have limited space like on here it's not so common, where as on Facebook it would probably be unusual not to.

Dec 12 14 04:02 am Link

Model

Salem

Posts: 1

Glendora, California, US

I'd say it's a big plus.
It lets you know who you're working with. You can be familiar with them before even meeting them, which makes you more comfortable. Age and looks aren't important for the art, but it is nice not to be surprised, especially when meeting in a public place. There could be thirty people wearing "a black shirt and jeans," but there would be little question if you've seen their face.
Besides, many photographers start out with little to work with, or just want nice pictures of themselves, it shouldn't be unheard of to see a picture they've taken of themselves on their profile, or in their portfolio.

Dec 13 14 04:58 pm Link

Photographer

KARELEA Photo & Makeup

Posts: 82

Palma, Balearic Islands, Spain

Photographers should post PHOTOGRAPHY, not photos of themselves. They are selling their work. Include your photos else where.
Models should post MODELING shots that represent their market (fashion/glamour/nude/alt). They are selling themselves as visual talent.

Its simple people. Think of of it this way, when someone is browsing/searching you need to represent what you DO.

Dec 15 14 07:17 am Link

Photographer

D-Light

Posts: 629

Newcastle, Limerick, Ireland

I didn't, then I did for a while and now I don't anymore, it doesn't seem to have made a difference either way. When it was in my portfolio, I don't think many of the models I booked even saw it.

Dec 16 14 09:43 am Link

Photographer

WIP

Posts: 15973

Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom

Yajhil Alvarez wrote:
Hi everyone,
Just wondering if, in your opinion, a photographer having a picture of themselves in their profile is a plus or not a must?  What do you think?  I just added mine but I''m not sure if I really needed to do it.

Some people may imagine what others look like if they have no profile pic this is sometimes determined by their forum postings.

I try to put a character on people eg mods/admin; From Harry Potter.

Brian ~ Rubeus Hagrid
Dean ~ Severus Snape
Kevin ~ Lucius Malfoy

Not a photographer but admin Brandi ~ Dolores Umbridge

Dec 20 14 04:00 am Link

Photographer

Darren Brade

Posts: 3351

London, England, United Kingdom

Yep, it makes life easier when meeting in busy places.

If you don''t have enough free places in your port, do what I do and link your portrait from your website.

Dec 20 14 03:54 pm Link

Photographer

g2-new photographics

Posts: 2048

Boston, Massachusetts, US

I only just got here, so I haven''t read all of it, but why would it matter what the photographer looks like?

Dec 20 14 04:04 pm Link

Photographer

Brooklyn Bridge Images

Posts: 13200

Brooklyn, New York, US

g2-new photographics wrote:
I only just got here, so I haven''''t read all of it, but why would it matter what the photographer looks like?

Believe it or not to some people it does....

Dec 20 14 07:37 pm Link

Model

D A N I

Posts: 4627

Little Rock, Arkansas, US

Plus? No, It wouldn''t make me want to click you profile and check out the rest of your work. Also it makes you seem like a male-only photographer (if you''re a male of course).

Does it bother me? No, people can do what they want

Dec 21 14 06:00 am Link

Photographer

Magic Image Pin Up

Posts: 28

Temple City, California, US

My main is a picture of yours truly hehehehe

Jan 10 15 06:06 am Link

Model

Magda Kulpinska

Posts: 688

Paris, Île-de-France, France

Personally, I think if it's a small pic to show what you look like then yes.

a big nono as avatar though. ...

Jan 10 15 07:17 am Link

Photographer

IMAGINERIES

Posts: 2048

New York, New York, US

I would consider posting my picture as part of my profile, if feasible....

Jan 10 15 07:20 am Link

Model

Magda Kulpinska

Posts: 688

Paris, Île-de-France, France

Personally, I think if it's a small pic to show what you look like then yes.

a big nono as avatar though. ...

Jan 10 15 08:32 am Link

Model

Jamey J

Posts: 26

Dover, New Hampshire, US

Yajhil Alvarez wrote:
Hi everyone,
Just wondering if, in your opinion, a photographer having a picture of themselves in their profile is a plus or not a must?  What do you think?  I just added mine but I'm not sure if I really needed to do it.

I am a newb, but I prefer to see the photographer pic of their own mug as their avatar.  Especially when participating in forums such as these.  When the avatar is a model it is like speaking to a person whom is wearing a mask..  I want to speak to the person and know whom I am speaking with.  If I want to see the photos the photographer has taken I will click to view their portfolio.

Jan 10 15 05:19 pm Link

Photographer

Photographic Adventures

Posts: 326

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US

Jamey J wrote:
I am a newb, but I prefer to see the photographer pic of their own mug as their avatar.  Especially when participating in forums such as these.  When the avatar is a model it is like speaking to a person whom is wearing a mask..  I want to speak to the person and know whom I am speaking with.  If I want to see the photos the photographer has taken I will click to view their portfolio.

OTOH, if you or any model saw my mugshot you might not want to look any farther.  I do have a self portrait in my port.

Jan 10 15 06:24 pm Link

Photographer

George Wong

Posts: 20

Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

I think my hair is great and the bow is pretty.

Jan 11 15 11:27 pm Link

Photographer

Brooklyn Bridge Images

Posts: 13200

Brooklyn, New York, US

Jamey J wrote:
I want to speak to the person and know whom I am speaking with.

And what if they don't look "right" to you ?

Jan 11 15 11:43 pm Link

Model

Rosemarie Bennet

Posts: 156

Southampton, Pennsylvania, US

Not 100% necessary, but personally, I like it. I understand that I'm not hiring a photographer for their looks, but I like to know what to expect or who to look for. I think it takes guts and I appreciate a photographer who includes a photo of themselves.

Jan 12 15 06:03 pm Link

Photographer

JGLabs

Posts: 152

Mission Viejo, California, US

I just added a pic of my self to my port, (because of this thread)  smile

Jan 12 15 09:44 pm Link

Photographer

The Grey Forest

Posts: 542

Igoumenítsa, Kentriki Ellada, Greece

KARELEA Photo & Makeup wrote:
Photographers should post PHOTOGRAPHY, not photos of themselves. They are selling their work. Include your photos else where.
Models should post MODELING shots that represent their market (fashion/glamour/nude/alt). They are selling themselves as visual talent.

Its simple people. Think of of it this way, when someone is browsing/searching you need to represent what you DO.

...yeah, thanks for the advice there, Karelea, though it makes you look like a two-faced bigot when you have 2 giant self portraits of yourself plastered on your main MM page === just say'in. tongue

most models do agree (and I'm a formal model too) though do acknowledge that its not 'entirely' necessary, it does add a measure of openness and personal impression to be able to see & read the face of someone you will be working with, rather than some blank mystery.  Does a photographers chosen portrait show charisma or something fun about their personality ?  which is important chemistry with someone you will be spending time collaborating with on set, and adds a level of comfort and informality; Its simply positive marketing in a frequently impersonal online existence.

However, when we see some photographers literally 'pounce' on others for mentioning it here, ...honestly, some might wonder what are they hiding?
...and more importantly; are they going to carry that condescending and arrogant attitude on set ?

Refuse to show your own face and 'expect others not to care' whatsoever?, is ironically in itself, egocentric. 
But jumping down other people's throats for showing theirs?  Wow ! ...it shows a sour; even distasteful color of personality.

So sure, stomp up and down all you want and throw your tantrums, but don't persecute others over something so clearly favorable.  People like to know who they are talking too / communicating or will be working with, nobody can deny this.  If you are truly so cold to think nobody cares (nor should care) whatsoever, then you're delusional and need a refresh course in human association.

Jeepers ~ lighten up !

Xmas is over... all you Grinch's go crawl back in your cave, I'll wake you up next December.

Jan 12 15 11:44 pm Link

Photographer

TL Westgate

Posts: 92

Altamonte Springs, Florida, US

As you can see, I believe in a picture representing me as my avatar. I mean, it's right there in the definition.

"av·a·tar
ˈavəˌtär/

an icon or figure representing a particular person in computer games, Internet forums, etc."

I did it at first because I thought it was weird to have a picture of a hot chick associated with me. I mean, I feel pretty on the inside, but I don't really think I'm a buxom blonde.

But I also use it to show models I'm not a creeper. I do a lot of hotel shoots when I travel and whenever a girl brings an escort, they almost universally leave once they meet me because they can tell I'm not some weirdo in it for self gratification. The dreaded "guy with camera" syndrome.

My pic was shot by another pro of me at a film festival. And just to ensure people don't think it's a picture I took of a model (not that anyone would confuse me with a model, lol!) I added my name on top of it.

From the models I've spoken with about this, my avatar has helped.

Jan 14 15 07:52 am Link

Model

azvk

Posts: 10

London, England, United Kingdom

Yajhil Alvarez wrote:
Hi everyone,
Just wondering if, in your opinion, a photographer having a picture of themselves in their profile is a plus or not a must?  What do you think?  I just added mine but I'm not sure if I really needed to do it.

I can imagine some do utilize MM for alterior purposes.., however by virtue this is not a dating site, So for me what the Photographer looks like has no baring, only there Work.

Jan 20 15 07:04 am Link

Model

Victoria Elle

Posts: 688

New York, New York, US

Yajhil Alvarez wrote:
Hi everyone,
Just wondering if, in your opinion, a photographer having a picture of themselves in their profile is a plus or not a must?  What do you think?  I just added mine but I'm not sure if I really needed to do it.

I don't give a damn what photographers look like, I only care what their portfolio looks like.  If the photographer has a solid portfolio, and then an image of himself that's not as good (and most of them aren't as good.  Most of them are downright bad snapshots or dated style-wise), it's definitely something I might decline a trade offer over.  Why can't you tell that picture isn't as good as your others, dude?  One bad picture is enough to make me question your consistency/taste.

On the other hand, I also don't really care what anyone's avatar looks like: I always open the full portfolio, because again: consistency.

So if the image is good enough that it would make me want to work with you no matter who it was of, and it just happens to be of you: sure, keep it in your portfolio.  Otherwise, no, no thanks.

Jan 20 15 02:08 pm Link

Photographer

Deep Visions

Posts: 323

Oceanside, California, US

Yajhil Alvarez wrote:
Hi everyone,
Just wondering if, in your opinion, a photographer having a picture of themselves in their profile is a plus or not a must?  What do you think?  I just added mine but I'm not sure if I really needed to do it.

My personal opinion, it just takes up unnecessary space on my port.

Jan 22 15 10:35 pm Link

Model

Rachel Jay

Posts: 20441

Nashville, Tennessee, US

Eh, a pic didn't have to be present in a portfolio or profile for me to book a shoot. I never cared what a photographer looked like... it was the work that mattered. Being willing to answer "how will I be able to find you at the location?" with a photo, a description of a vehicle, or some identifying characteristic, however, was always a plus if we were meeting up on location... though even that was not necessary with cell phones and the fact that the photographer knew what I looked like.

Jan 22 15 10:50 pm Link

Model

KristyJessica

Posts: 49

Phoenix, Arizona, US

It depends on the photo. I have had male photographers ask to do a shoot, then I see pics in their port of them interacting with the models in ways I would not be comfortable. Sometimes its weird when a photographer mentions in his message to me "I am not your typical older/ balding/ whatever" photographer and then when I look in their port they have like, attractive pics of themselves... are you trying to flirt? This isn't a dating site!

I do like seeing photos of the photographer in his port, but if they're overly glamorizing or suggestive/ creepy, it's a turn off for me!

Feb 03 15 09:05 am Link