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Photographer

Sunspark Photography

Posts: 268

Cary, North Carolina, US

As opposed to any other genre (commercial, bridal, ect)?  Photo examples would be great, but specifically where you personally draw the line is what I'm looking for, with the understanding that it falls in different places for different people.

Jan 14 15 11:02 pm Link

Makeup Artist

ArtistryImage

Posts: 3091

Washington, District of Columbia, US

Delilah Monroe wrote:
How would define "High fashion" hair and makeup?

Delllah, the AD on the session chooses the narrative and visual statement...  And if it actually is Haute Couture then the designer's visual statement needs to be carefully integrated into the narrative... I'm absolutely certain that if you've worked many fashion events you realize there are no rules... a.k.a. standards... it's all about creating a lifestyle...

From my BIO

Fashion: Savvy marketing/advertising techniques empower fashion designers to differentiate themselves from background noise in a competitive marketplace. Such practices involve lifestyle branding which is derived from a unified look in how their collections are showcased. Successful designers produce style narratives that create genuine value for customers. This perceived worth is divorced from their actual product. To thrive in the Fashion industry it's wise to embrace this concept completely

Example: One of my tears...  (with named credit)

FLORI Beauty & Lifestyle Magazine JULY/AUGUST 2010 Issue
Jl. Taman Pluit Kencana Blok P No. 28 JJ Pluit, Jakarta Utara 14450

https://www.restonstudio.com/images/Urban_Noise_01_web_profile.jpg

As for bridal?  Clean Beauty is an industry standard, albeit whatever the bride wants she gets...

Example: 

https://www.restonstudio.com/gallery/Fgallery34-1.jpg

Delilah Monroe wrote:
...but specifically where you personally draw the line....

I don't the AD on the session/event etc does... or the client... I'm only a vehicle for their vision...  matters little what I cherish, again to flourish as a commercial entity it's wise to embrace this concept completely

Hope this helps...

All the best on your journey....

Jan 15 15 08:20 am Link

Makeup Artist

Danielle Blazer

Posts: 846

Los Angeles, California, US

High fashion is wardrobe involving designer/haute couture wardrobe and makeup and hair that is usually more editorial in nature. It must tell the designer's story which can range from a clean beauty look to something more avante garde in nature.

Jan 15 15 11:42 am Link

Makeup Artist

MeganCalfoMakeup

Posts: 68

Los Angeles, California, US

Look through Vogue, Elle, Marie Claire, W, Bazaar, etc. Look at all of the fashion advertisements (for example, Louis Vuitton, Prada, Tom Ford, Dolce & Gabbana etc.)
The makeup in those ads is high fashion makeup. The majority of high fashion makeups used in high fashion ads are actually quite natural looks. It is makeup that will not distract from the clothing, because the clothing should be the focal point of the ad.
You could have a very clean, natural base and then orange eyebrows. Or you could have a no makeup makeup look. You could throw on a red lip. The looks are endless. Like I said, just look through a high fashion magazine.

Couture fashion is more avant garde, unordinary, texturized, detailed, etc. Look at Pat McGraths work for examples of couture makeup.

Jan 21 15 11:03 pm Link

Makeup Artist

ArtistryImage

Posts: 3091

Washington, District of Columbia, US

MeganCalfoMakeup wrote:
...The makeup in those ads is high fashion makeup. The majority of high fashion makeups used in high fashion ads are actually quite natural looks. It is makeup that will not distract from the clothing, because the clothing should be the focal point of the ad...

Exactly!  it is so about the garments and/or accessories...

MeganCalfoMakeup wrote:
...Couture fashion is more avant garde, unordinary, texturized, detailed, etc..

The runway shows in major fashion centers (London, Paris, NYC, Tokyo, Milan) are primarily theater... the makeup used here is to facilitate each designer's style narrative... In order to differentiate themselves visual statements oft border on the absurd... Looks that if worn in public might place an individual in harms way of being perceived as at the "lunatic fringe"...  But it accomplishes it's mission of brand recognition... might be wise to limit the amount of these over the top look in one's commercial book... unless you are indeed located in one of the aforementioned fashion centers...

Hope this helps...

Jan 22 15 06:09 am Link

Photographer

Lallure Photographic

Posts: 2086

Taylors, South Carolina, US

That look which is totally compatible with the garment.

Jan 22 15 07:57 am Link

Makeup Artist

Leanne Harpin

Posts: 222

Fairfield, Connecticut, US

My favorite description of the difference between beauty and high fashion makeup as said by Sam Chapman is beauty looks tend to have a little bit of everything (strong brows, strong eyes, strong lips, maybe a soft cheek).
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/df/52/9f/df529f4ec111368d756e195c72d90ff2.jpg

While fashion looks tend to take elements of certain looks and leave out others (Strong eyes, strong lips,and no brows for example)
https://i.models.com/i/db/2009/7/8485/8485-500w.jpg

Jan 23 15 12:32 am Link

Makeup Artist

Carmen Make up and Hair

Posts: 325

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

No need to use the word 'high' before fashion. To my knowledge the term 'high fashion' isn't widely used.

Commercial is shoot to sell a product and/or service.

Fashion is a shoot to sell and/or highlight an artist(s) technique, ability, and taste.

Commercial pays.

Fashion does not pay, or pays very little. Fashion is a labor of love.

Fashion is what your commercial clients want to see before they hire you.

Commercial generally involves natural make up, a no make up make up, and depending on the client sometimes a glamor make up. I am requested for more intense looks from time to time, but not often.

Fashion often ALSO involves one of the above stated makeups. The difference here, is that you're collaborating with a number of people with the intent of showcasing your talent. Sometimes the shoot should be make up heavy. Sometimes it is best to make it look like you're not there at all, and let the wardrobe or hair shine. Part of what makes an experienced fashion artist is understanding how to communicate and collaborate with other artists, to bring together a beautiful piece of work that (hopefully) makes everyone happy.

If you flip through big name fashion magazines of today, you won't often find 'avant-garde' make up. I do see alot of decade inspired influences, most recently 60's style make up. But for the most part, it is about the elegance of the model, the wardrobe, and the simplicity and taste of photography. I only generally see 'avant garde' make up in a lower end production.

Just my $0.02. Hope this clears things up for ya a bit.

Jan 28 15 06:19 pm Link

Model

Jules NYC

Posts: 21617

New York, New York, US

Bridal -

https://www.piniful.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/high-fashion-hair-style-trends-fashion-leaks-138473222348kgn.gif

Fashion:
https://www.thefrisky.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/27/chanel_haute_couture_hair_s10_m-400x300.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7e/9a/c6/7e9ac6a60b36f6ebf1f1971815bbceef.jpg

https://houseoffashion.info/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/high-fashion-hairstylesthe-double-top-knot--what-do-you-think----kissidy-salon-mkjttfoi.jpg

https://hairstylealbum.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Updo-hairstyles-1.jpg

Many examples that are not 'up-dos' as well.

In short, exaggerated styling.

Look it up on Google, plenty of examples

Feb 02 15 04:39 am Link