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Interesting responses. Glad to know I'm not totally delusional. Jan 30 15 09:41 pm Link All you have to do is search for new models and you'll see the same ones on the search results first page for several days in a row with just a few new models being added per day. I can remember almost a full page of new models being added per day. I'm using my default saved search which hasn't had any parameters changed from when I first set it up. Jan 31 15 01:43 am Link All interesting perspectives. Sadly, I've started trying to figure out FACEBOOK instead of here. I still make offers here but nothing much happens anymore. Feb 05 15 05:29 pm Link I've also had issues booking models from MM. Everyone just seemed so flaky and unresponsive. If you're experiencing the same problem and happen to be in the San Francisco Bay area, check out this app: www.prophotoshootapp.com In beta now, but it was created to take this whole process into the 21st century. Feb 06 15 07:21 pm Link Also the quality of models has gone waaaaay down lmao lmao Feb 06 15 09:46 pm Link I get shoots through Facebook but always ask if the model has a portfolio on here or the other more UK centric site and always refer models to my portfolio on here and on the other site. I want to see how a model models, not how she duck-faces while pissed in the toilet of a bar. Feb 07 15 03:38 am Link The Grey Forest wrote: I couldn't say it any better. Feb 07 15 05:40 am Link I have started to play around on Facebook but it's a royal pain trying to figure out geography for each model. Feb 15 15 07:25 am Link Koryn wrote: +1000 Feb 15 15 07:36 am Link I would second that comment above, at least once a week I wonder why MM doesn't have an app. There are obvious advantages for usability, and these days models live on their phone. Every other social media type of site has one, and you constantly see ppl using them. If I do a search on my phone using MM's website, it's a pain in the ass. I feel this is quite possibly contributing to the problem, as smartphones have gotten more ubiquitous, fewer models take the time to use the computer as often for things like this, but they all have phones with them anyways... (I don't think 9 out of every 10 can get through a photoshoot without taking at least 1 selfie!). Feb 15 15 07:43 am Link Bilsen Galleries wrote: Didn't you guys have a really severe Winter. Even murders are down in NYC. Blame it on Global Warming. Feb 15 15 07:57 am Link Perhaps something as simple as an optional "Date of last photo shoot" (not images received/uploaded!) for both, model and photographer to confirm, will show activity, that both actually showed up (flake rates and rants may go down) AND that both, model and photographer are actually effectively communicating (and not just ranting at each other with their petty crap on the fora, like yours truly. ) I reckon a few memberships should warrant for such a button to be programmed, nay? Feb 15 15 08:00 am Link Amadea T wrote: It sounds like a good idea. Feb 15 15 08:19 am Link MM is still the best resource for me. It just not active like it used to be. Seem a lot of cool people are gone or gone less active. Specially in the forum. With that said, in the last whole year I have found and shot 3 models from FB while In the last 30 days: From Jan 12 to Feb 11 I have worked with 10 models from MM and shot them for the total of 19 times/days Feb 15 15 08:44 am Link I have few problems booking off of MM as well, and as an aside like an idiot I tried to click your folders... Feb 15 15 09:00 am Link Nice works Mr Quest. Feb 15 15 09:15 am Link judging from what i see from my model friends, models are just pretty much ignoring the black bars and such (which was kind of uncomfortable when my boss was screen sharing my computer and up popped a nude). then every so often someone complains and they have to open a new account. there are also a lot of Facebook groups. like there's one for zivity. Koryn wrote: Feb 15 15 09:42 am Link If I spent all my time learning to navigate and constantly update update update with every fart that happens around me, I'd never have time to actually shoot nor hone my skills or make it to the freaggin gym or get anything at all done.. how in the hell do y'all do it, this constant bloody facing and booking and spacing and tweeting and instragraming and tumbling and tossing and turning? (I nearly told a guy he should "come on MyFace" the other day... ) Feb 15 15 09:54 am Link Amadea T wrote: Arrg I miss working with you Feb 15 15 11:58 am Link Nowadays, MM is good if you need to cast some models and the client is on a budget (<50/hr). I get tons more responses from MM than from anywhere else. Of course, MM also yields a lot more noise (such as: I know I'm five inches too short for your casting, but I can wear heels) but once you sort through this, you are good to go. Feb 15 15 12:56 pm Link I think meetup.com is giving models enough bookings that they can ignore individual photographers. At least in my area. 6-10 guys paying $50-100 (obviously not all goes to the model)... "safer" with all those people around, often in a studio, and they can meet the photographers and then decide if they want secondary sessions for another $100 or so Not to mention these are only 2-3 hour shoots, so if there is someone annoying you aren't really going to have to work with them very long. I'm not sure I'd want to pay more than $20 for one of these meetups though... I've been to freebie meet n greet type meetups where everyone seems to have fun. And usually if anything it's $5 to help with the booze and snacks etc. But 10 guys all trying to shoot the model within 2 hours...with wardrobe changes and posing... and setup/backdrop/room changes... sounds crappy. For a hobby it would be decent. There is a guy on flickr who goes to a few every month...and seems to be renting/borrowing lots of gear, unless he owns that $150,000 in cameras he's used. Feb 15 15 03:13 pm Link Interesting idea about apps Patrick. As for the "gang bang" group shoots, been there, done that, done with it. Either way and for whatever reason, Mayhem is becoming less useful by the year. That is really sad to me because I have really enjoyed the models I have actually gotten to meet here. Feb 16 15 01:40 pm Link Yep things are going down a bit. Holidays and the beginning of the year are always a bit slow for me, but this year seems to be one of the worst honestly Feb 16 15 02:03 pm Link Amelia Simone wrote: Seriously wish you were on the correct coast. LOL Feb 19 15 02:43 pm Link mophotoart wrote: Defo... strange things happening. Feb 19 15 03:36 pm Link ddtphoto wrote: " Feb 19 15 03:43 pm Link The Golden time on MM for me was 2006-2009. After that, it is all downhill. Good thing I don't really care to update my port for the sake of just updating. If you are having problem finding quality talent here, you are not alone. I think it is a waste of time now. I have had better luck just going up to a random pretty girl and asking her by giving her my business card. MM for LA is still very good. Lots of talent there. If you need to build a port, might consider flying to LA for a few days and do all your shoots at once. May save you the hassle of looking locally. Feb 19 15 06:05 pm Link mccStudio--Dark wrote: I think FB has a lot to do with this... FB is like MM used to be some years ago. Feb 21 15 04:45 am Link FB there might be groups in your area you can join and recruit from. IG is great, I have gotten many shoots from messages on there. Twitter works too. Keep posting your website link with your contact info, it works. Feb 21 15 05:10 am Link Perhaps the reality of modeling is setting in. It isn't necessarily fun, nor glamorous, nor easy, nor highly profitable. Feb 21 15 08:27 am Link Lallure Photographic wrote: This may have a *lot* to do with it. Feb 21 15 11:46 am Link I've noticed the very same phenomenon here in New Zealand. I find that NZ MM models (even the ones who have no experience) won't reply to professional, friendly offers of work. I now source models from the local student job search office. I get many replies whenever I place a casting call there! Feb 21 15 11:54 am Link In the years when the model shows were big on TV there were a lot of girls that wanted to try it out. Still a crap shoot but better odds. When Craig's List closed the Adult section the porn people and escorts tried to move in. Then when the recession hit and there were no jobs for young kids starting out everyone joined trying to make money. Still that way now. Newbies join because they see all BS about making $100 pet hour. Feb 21 15 12:21 pm Link Well based on a VERY small sample it apoears it's not JUST Mayhem. Facebook is only marginally better. Since January 1 On Mayhem 4 first time shoots scheduled ------ 4 cancellations On Facebook 3 first time shoots scheduled ------- 1 shoot, 2 cancellations. Again, from 2010 to 2012 I was very succuessful here on Mayhem by itself. Nowadays I thank God for all my regulars because without them I'd be playing chess full time. LOLOL Feb 21 15 07:02 pm Link and JUST when I'm about ready to give up on Mayhem, this terrific 1st shoot actually shows up and does a great set. Go figure. LOLOL Mar 01 15 08:17 am Link JAE wrote: It's a great shame that Facebook is taking traffic away from sites like this. Facebook seems to be all things to all people but I have found that the "models" on Facebook more like likely to flake are less professional in their approach. For many they just want to be model for a day so they can get a 100 likes for their pics from their friends. 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