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refuse shoot due to models drug and alcohol issues
I have known a girl since she was 16 when we did a shoot for a clothing line. I met her mother and father and they were really nice people. She is now 19 and in the meantime I had a feeling she might have gotten into drugs and alcohol. Two weeks ago she messaged me out of the blue and asked if I had any paid modeling opportunities for her. I let her know that basically the only sure thing paid gigs I had were nude shoots. She said she was willing. However, when I checked out her FB page I saw people had posted stuff in the last few months showing concern for her and if she needed help she could always contact them and stuff like that. When I talked to her on the phone she sounded different and she said she needed money and that's why she is willing to pose nude. In my opinion she is making this decision to pay a drug habit and therefore isn't thinking clearly. Should I refuse the shoot ? Jan 27 15 09:22 pm Link Since you know her - this is maybe a time where I'd do what I usually don't do with models and that is to meet for coffee or have her come for a couple preliminary snapshots. You can then judge for yourself if she's able to function as a model - if not, you can be straight forward with her about the reason; rather than just prejudging her based on random Internet chatter. Jan 27 15 09:30 pm Link I think you don't have enough info yet. you sound like you care, I wouldn't personally get involved but if she and her family are your friends i understand. good luck. Jan 27 15 09:41 pm Link Yes, you definitely need to talk to her. I wouldn't assume anything, but be ready to help her in any way you can - aside from feeding an alleged habit by paying her to get nude. -Don Jan 27 15 09:46 pm Link Girls who pose nude for the fun of it, or it's their job, or they just want to try it? Okay. But girls who are only doing it for the money is another story. Especially if they are desperate, and they are somebody you have a history with. You say you met the parents, I'd call her Mom and ask her how she (Mom) would feel about it. You'll probably get an earfull, a backstory, a Thank You, and dodge a bullet. Jan 27 15 09:49 pm Link Tell her your concerns and see how she responds. If what you suspect to be true then proceed appropriately. Jan 27 15 09:50 pm Link Treat her like you would want your wife , gf, sister or daughter treated .... Sounds like your already concerned. If she is in a bad way for $ or drugs offer her help if she accepts professional help. Take small steps, proceed with care. F A Jan 27 15 10:21 pm Link I would talk to her face to face before making any decision You are making lots of unsubstantiated assumptions Jan 27 15 11:35 pm Link Daren King wrote: Considering you know her parents and her personally and she contacted you needing money and not necessarily wanting to pose nude I would really consider this a total hot mess and not shoot. How will you feel when her parents find out? How will you feel when she sobers up and comes to say that she never wants those photos to see the light of day, or miraculously, she could love shooting nude so much that she sobers up clean right there and becomes your go to model. Jan 28 15 03:07 am Link I have turned away models who ''needed the money'' if I suspected less-than-ideal circumstances. During a few shoots, it seemed that some models had issues and so I would not ask them to return (but would finish the shoot before sending them on their way). I was an employer not a caretaker. Unlike your situation, I had not previously met them (of their family) so it was easy to not get involved. If you have concerns then meet with her beforehand and ''interview'' her for the job before making your decision. Good luck. Jan 28 15 05:08 am Link I started a shoot with a model that had been smoking weed the night before. After 3 shoots if was obvious that she was not capable of doing her job so I canceled the shoot. Her problems in like continued and she spiraled off the map. I haven't had anything to do with her since. So just say NO to anything that is connected with drugs. At least, you can loose a shoot. At worst, you can get drawn in by trying to help, and then you life is disrupted. Jan 28 15 05:25 am Link Daren King wrote: Probably. Jan 28 15 05:56 am Link I'm also gonna throw in that IF she is into drugs, and you haven't seen a recent photo of her, she might look like shit. Why would you want to pay a model that looks strung out? I say meet with her first and assess the situation. Jan 28 15 06:23 am Link Although I do have my personal thoughts about accepting (Booking) unreliable people. If your mind has an idea for a shoot that she .."as she is" would be perfect for or you build the set to inspire said Image and model you are working with..then let it go..Don't expect a (trying to think a good analogy..without offense) Photo you want to look like a Lamborghini Veneno when you are shooting a 73 Volkswagen Bug. Shot as you see her..that's the art.. find her points of interest and appeal to them in what you are trying to capture from her. She will feel more comfortable and "less likely stiff from being judged.." If YOU DON'T (feel Comfortable) or she is not in your imagination of what you want to capture at this time.. respectfully decline but you may be giving up what could be, If shot right, some of your best images ever. Jan 28 15 07:06 am Link Sounds like she is looking for drug money. I think you would probably want to talk to her about that, before doing the shoot. You should not be contributing to her problem. Jan 28 15 09:32 am Link Natural Light on Location wrote: I wouldn't call her mom unless you are already on a fairly intimate "family-friend" basis. The young lady is 19 and there are several other possible reasons why she needs money desperately, that may be better left unknown. Jan 28 15 12:08 pm Link Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote: This. Jan 28 15 12:22 pm Link i think that posing nude for money is common? does it really matter why they need the money? to me the bigger issue is whether you think she would be a good model under the circumstances. then again you can't believe everything you read on the internet. maybe you should just be upfront with her. you read the allegations and let her know she has to be sober in order to model for you. but if she's an addict watch out. those folks are TROUBLE. if any of my models have been drunk or on drugs it wasn't so bad that i noticed. sometimes it can show up in the eyes. and pot smell is enough to make me run for fresh air. Jan 28 15 03:13 pm Link Jen B wrote: I know what I am about to say will offend some people BUT......females have a habit of blaming men and accusing men of sexual misconduct when they have regret. Jan 28 15 10:58 pm Link Daren King wrote: And you base this on FB posts fer christsakes Jan 29 15 12:32 am Link Daren King wrote: Good idea for several reasons. Although a great majority of women would never ruin a man's reputation and life based on regret for a bad decision on their part, a person who is an addict would probably be more likely to do so. Jan 29 15 01:33 am Link Daren King wrote: I can understand your decision to avoid possible drama. Jan 29 15 04:56 am Link Natural Light on Location wrote: agreed. Jan 29 15 02:02 pm Link Jen B wrote: Meet with her and assess for yourself. If it's apparent that she's on a downhill slope, join with her parents in supporting her in getting professional help, but by no means become an enabler by helping her to get money to support an addiction. Jan 30 15 09:35 am Link |
