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Model didn't show to shoot, wants pay..need advice
Her turning you in MM sounds like the least of your worries - sounds like a nutcase. Keep all communications - because threats may be next - cause it sounds like she's already counted the money, or spent it in anticipation of getting it. "You better pay me......" Find a good model - work with her until she retires - because you know that at least she'll show up. (sound advice) Apr 11 15 07:46 pm Link As others have said, it sounds like she doesn't understand what she's doing. No idea who this is of course, but I'm wondering if she has pulled similar stunts with other photographers before. Did she have some policy on her profile about canceling? Like if the shoot is canceled she excepts whatever percentage or money? Not saying she'd be excused or in the right if so, but I'm wondering if she thinks that would count under her own policy/limitations, considering she is the one that typically canceled the shoot, since the whole concept needed that specific location and such. I hope I made sense with that question. That really sucks that happened though...always check your references if it's a brand new model or someone you're not familiar with. Of course life happens, but this doesn't really sound like an accident on her part. Apr 11 15 08:01 pm Link 4 hours late? I would have told her that if she were to just be 30 minutes late. No one would be here to great her. Apr 11 15 09:07 pm Link DougBPhoto wrote: Nah ,VIP's don't flake, everyone knows that! Apr 11 15 09:08 pm Link AdrienneEichner wrote: I'd contact a mod before she does because sometimes models contact mods and tell them stories which causes the photographer to get banned, (ask Lumigraphics about this.) Apr 12 15 08:13 am Link First Light Photo wrote: Actually models have had photographers banned by telling stories and causing a doo doo storm. It seems that photographers are sadly considerede guilty just because a model, (batsh*t or not,) contacts them and cries. Apr 12 15 08:15 am Link Jen B wrote: Wait wait wait... your ppl come in a *not* batsh*t variety?! Apr 12 15 08:18 am Link Jen B wrote: Not forgetting thrown in the brig. Apr 12 15 08:35 am Link You should have taken the horse to the hotel room ... and told the manager that the model said it was OK to shoot there Apr 12 15 09:13 am Link Just ignore her. And keep all messages as evidence. You haven't done a thing wrong. Apr 12 15 09:43 am Link GRMACK wrote: I agree, it you have or had a binding contract with this model and she was a no show, definately send her a bill to cover some of your loss. She is clearly in breach of contract. She may not pay but in the long run her actions will hurt her more than you. Apr 12 15 09:46 am Link I admire that you put together a shoot that had such complexity and interesting elements. You took a big hit when she didn't appear and people will often blame the photographer if things fall apart. Tell her that you're doing public relations work for her by telling everyone how great she is at not showing up. On the basis of what you told us you have nothing to fear from her. Apr 12 15 01:07 pm Link Photos by Stan wrote: lmao Apr 12 15 01:17 pm Link Gerardo Martinez wrote: Laugh you may, but here in England it's been done - March 1954 - Roy Rogers and his famous horse Trigger in the Liverpool Adelphi Hotel Apr 12 15 01:36 pm Link Jen B wrote: I think it's more of a male/female bias issue than a model/photographer one. And since the photographer in this case is female... Apr 12 15 01:41 pm Link DespayreFX wrote: Ha! Maybe? WIP wrote: Yes, this too. Apr 12 15 03:47 pm Link Hello maybe you should get the facts straight. Yes I was running behind and asked if we could reschedule. She was unorganized the first time we shot as well as this time.She originally asked me to reschedule and said no. I tried texting and calling since she said we could reschedule for Saturday. Never answered my texts or calls until 12 hrs later. I am a professional and have a good port and resume to show this. I even tried getting a hotel room to at least shoot a couple of hrs since a hotel was the original plan. I would have made sure I was there no matter what if it was a big deal to her. At least I let her know I was running behind hrs in advance. She shouldn't have said we could reschedule then. Oh and her reasoning for not picking up the phone is food poisoning. I'm moving on now and you all have a great day. I will not be wasting my time reporting her I just wanted a response. Apr 13 15 09:07 am Link *thud*... oh look, the other shoe...  Apr 13 15 09:48 am Link Niki Lee Young wrote: I have an 84 message string sitting in my mailbox - sample look links - lots of confirmations - 2 cancelations - first with 3 hours notice (food poisoning claimed) - rescheduled - 2nd cancel (feels sick) with 15 minutes notice. Didn't see any further point. Apr 13 15 11:54 am Link No matter who is right, who is wrong, or what the facts are, this thread is proof you should never air dirty laundry on MM. You never know who is right or who is wrong, and both sides can end up looking bad. Word to the wise... Apr 13 15 12:46 pm Link Yeah! F# off, is my polite reply. Apr 14 15 12:20 am Link No play no pay. Why is this an issue? Apr 14 15 12:32 am Link If you're late, you miss the boat! Apr 17 15 10:29 am Link Screw her! No shows don't get paid! Apr 17 15 11:11 am Link Niki Lee Young wrote: This really did not help your case. Apr 22 15 09:51 pm Link AdrienneEichner wrote: It's always sad when I have high hopes for a model and they fall apart before the session. Apr 25 15 05:07 am Link Mercy Lock request One sided OP https://www.modelmayhem.com/forums/post … st19312302 And the aired laundry reply https://www.modelmayhem.com/forums/post … st19313820 Isn't this enough said? Jen Apr 25 15 09:11 am Link Deep Visions wrote: +1 Apr 25 15 09:24 am Link  Apr 25 15 09:56 am Link Niki Lee Young wrote: This made me giggle, especially given the production that was described Apr 25 15 10:13 am Link terrysphotocountry wrote: This! I pretty much disregarded the initial post after reading it would be 'Okay' for the model to show up four hours late. Really? Apr 25 15 10:21 am Link GRMACK wrote: This Apr 25 15 11:06 am Link The lesson to take away from this is work with a model on a large scale shoot that you've worked with several times before. I shoot often with Stephanie Alicia # 2253456 but I've also used her for voice overs, interviews, etc etc. Find people that demonstrate professionalism consistently and you'll be ok. We've all had models that didn't have it together, and they're plenty of photographers that are just as bad. May 07 15 08:13 am Link Greg Kolack wrote: Yup!!! May 07 15 11:44 am Link calistastyles wrote: +100 May 07 15 11:46 am Link Send her the link of this thread. May 07 15 12:36 pm Link Niki Lee Young wrote: Regardless what it is. You were late and failed to perform your job as a model. You have the gut to ask someone to pay you. That is pretty low. It shows us how desperate and unprofessional you are. May 07 15 12:43 pm Link Francisco Castro wrote: +1 May 07 15 12:43 pm Link Niki Lee Young wrote: Niki Lee Young wrote: The two above statements are conflicts. Niki Lee Young wrote: So you only show up if it's a "big deal" to the photographer(s)? Sounds like you cost some people money waiting for you. I guess they didn't tell you what a big deal it was. Niki Lee Young wrote: Yeah, that's probably a good idea. May 09 15 01:20 pm Link First off, tell her to stick it where the sun don't shine. Second, find a real model not a diva who can't show up on time. May 09 15 01:32 pm Link |
