Model
Jen B
Posts: 4474
Phoenix, Arizona, US
Hello, Maybe I'm being hyper-vigiliant and maybe something came up for the photographer but I feel like I flaked, (am flaking.) More likely I'm having a lesson in better documentation and note taking and it is at someone else's expense! Sonofagun Oh boy, all week I thought I had a agreed upon shoot for today with someone, (not details, times or location yet but day and agreement to shoot.) Last weekend the photographer asked about this Sunday and I said yes. I also told him that I would probably not be able to communicate until Saturday because of work. My fail is that I didn't write it out but trusted I could find the message from him.  Yesterday I couldn't find his information to contact him. I checked my messages here, both profiles, on my facebook and also my texts and my Email,d (repeatedly.) My goal was to check with him yesterday morning. Dang... Apologies to this person! I sure wish he'd have checked with me on Saturday but, the onus was on me since I'd told him. Still, makes me realize that next time 'I' am waiting for someone to get back with me that I will send a nudge in case they are in this situation. Jen
Photographer
Tropical Photography
Posts: 35564
Sarasota, Florida, US
This is why I always give at least one follow up if I haven't heard from someone.. Crap happens and things slip peoples minds..
Hopefully all works out for you...
Model
Figures Jen B
Posts: 790
Phoenix, Arizona, US
Strike out on me today. Lesson Learned, always make a follow up much sooner than the day before. Dang, an official flake, shoot! Jen
Photographer
Tim Summa
Posts: 2514
San Antonio, Texas, US
Figures Jen B wrote:
Strike out on me today.
Dang, an official flake, shoot!
Jen I think that you are in the area of ‘lack of communication skills’. Photography/modeling is a two way street, he/she should have sent you a message. It realy is `a two way street ya know and things get crowded on that street. For clarity you might review the famous scene in the fine film Cool Hand Luke a Paul Newman film; in which the warden is explaining his position to the inmates of the nasty prison-farm. The warden states: “What we have here is failure, to communicate”, it is the delivery of the line that makes this ever so memorable.
I have a shoot this afternoon with the super kool model Miss VADA26. I send her e-mails during the week even if we are not shooting, but mostly we get together each Sunday and get naught taken care of! LOL!!! But still about 11:30 or 12:00 I will call her and she gives me what is up for that Sunday. She told me she would be over about 3:30 because she is meeting with a new photographer who want to explain his creative vision. Before she could explain any further I said, “Why not bring him to the studio, I have special glasses that are designed to help with creative vision!” She was laughing so hard she chocked.
Last weekend we did not shoot because her sister, who is about due with the first baby, and said she wanted to do preggy pics. Then VADA started telling me in a bit concerned way that hubby was coming as well. She went on about escorts and such, I laughed and said that ain’t an escort that is Daddy.
So while the girls are getting ready, I’m getting him in an ornate vest. In the he started to steal the show. The real fun was dragging VADA to another room so Daddy could do some snaps of his wife alone. They were the ones that were the best of all of them. A preset camera in studio with depth of field (f=11) and you get Daddy pictures. Her Sister loved the fact that Daddy did the best pictures.
So finally, I explained that we would do two more sessions, one just after the baby is born with Daddy there to have a picture for his Mom and all that family stuff. The other is the classic butt necked baby on the white sheet at five months, but Daddy is never at these. He objected, but I said it was a girl thing and no boys allowed. He told me I was a boy and I said, “No, I’m the photographer, we are the magic people and we live outside the laws of social rules, nay, we create social rules.” He laughed but he got the message.
So you see we can only hope to have the magic happen, and sometimes it just ain’t gona happen, simple as that.
Photographer
Jerry Nemeth
Posts: 33355
Dearborn, Michigan, US
Figures Jen B wrote:
Strike out on me today.
Lesson Learned, always make a follow up much sooner than the day before.
Dang, an official flake, shoot!
Jen Shame on you. 
Photographer
Orca Bay Images
Posts: 33877
Arcata, California, US
Your heart's clearly in the right place, Jen.
As others have mentioned, making sure a shoot happens is a two-way street. You lost his contact info? He had yours.
Photographer
Nor-Cal Photography
Posts: 3718
Walnut Creek, California, US
I always reconfirm the day before. Some models do too. But I'd say that I beat them to it about 98% of the time. Yes, many in this world with poor communication skills. But just one worthless opinion.
Model
Jen B
Posts: 4474
Phoenix, Arizona, US
Thank you everyone. If he ever calls, texts or messages me again I owe him a big apology!! In the meanwhile, the second photographer I agreed to shoot with contacted me somewhat late in the day and after hearing his reason for contacting me so late, in spite of it really squeezing my day I said, "lets make something work, I'll be there." I agree, you are right, it is a two way street and I really hope the first photographer does not think I blew him off and will contact me sometime so I can profusely apologize!! Gah!! I really think I somehow deleted the email because I can't find it on my messages here. Thank you again, LESSON learned. Jen p.s. and the shoot that ended up happening seems to be very nice new contact
Photographer
Llobet Photography
Posts: 4915
Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US
You realize this is going on your PERMANENT Record, young lady! 
Model
Jen B
Posts: 4474
Phoenix, Arizona, US
BlueMoonPics wrote:
You realize this is going on your PERMANENT Record, young lady! I know!
Seriously though, I've learned a lesson. I've spent Saturday, Sunday and now again today thinking about it. I totally earned some negative flake points.
I do NOT want to repeat this. Now I've got two model strike outs, (one wasn't a flake out but a decision not to shoot after meeting face to face and discussing the shoot with the photographer in 2013, after a too busy travel schedule, and now... this.)
Jen
p.s. I can never point a finger from a righteous place...I see that sometimes good intentioned models can still flake, (and I have had good intentioned photographers have to cancel late but, that isn't a flake though.)
Photographer
Dark Magus
Posts: 7027
El Cajon, California, US
Well, go and spank yourself cause you been bad.
Photographer
udor
Posts: 25255
New York, New York, US
Jen B wrote:
My fail is that I didn't write it out but trusted I could find the message from him.
Yesterday I couldn't find his information to contact him. I checked my messages here, both profiles, on my facebook and also my texts and my Email,d (repeatedly.) My goal was to check with him yesterday morning.
Dang... Apologies to this person! I sure wish he'd have checked with me on Saturday but, the onus was on me since I'd told him. Still, makes me realize that next time 'I' am waiting for someone to get back with me that I will send a nudge in case they are in this situation.
Jen Don't beat yourself up too much, Jen!
He knew you wouldn't be able to communicate until Saturday, which also means that he could have reached out as well!
Communications and setting up a shoot goes both ways..., if he didn't hear from you by Saturday afternoon... if he still planned to shoot... he should have checked with you, but he didn't... Maybe something came up on his end as well!
I am sure he'll get in touch with you when he feels he is ready to work with you.
You'll be fine..., just from now on... you know to get all the info necessary... no biggie!!!
Model
Isis22
Posts: 3557
Muncie, Indiana, US
It's not a flake if you didn't have "details, times or location" set up. It's really as simple as that. You can't flake without a true shoot in place.
Photographer
Abbitt Photography
Posts: 13559
Washington, Utah, US
I put shoots in my calendar so I don't have to rely on my memory.
Model
Jen B
Posts: 4474
Phoenix, Arizona, US
udor wrote:
Don't beat yourself up too much, Jen!
He knew you wouldn't be able to communicate until Saturday, which also means that he could have reached out as well!
Communications and setting up a shoot goes both ways..., if he didn't hear from you by Saturday afternoon... if he still planned to shoot... he should have checked with you, but he didn't... Maybe something came up on his end as well!
I am sure he'll get in touch with you when he feels he is ready to work with you.
You'll be fine..., just from now on... you know to get all the info necessary... no biggie!!! I will indeed. Thank you Udor, Isis and Abitt.
Thing is today I remember more about the shoot and it was a shoot I was very intersted in!! However, I cannot find our communications in either of my profiles?? gah!! I don't really understand how it disappeared. There were links to examples of what we discussed. Unless I am a total idiot and it was in my personal email and somehow I deleted it.
Darn!
Jen
p.s. grrr!
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