Dan Howell wrote:
Yes, you win the race to prove how much a model DOESN'T want to work with you. I think that comes with a blue ribbon.

+1

I know some people in the industry (models and photographers) who will jack up their rates if certain people ask to work with them, for different reasons. I also know some MUAs who will raise their rates because they know a model has really bad skin and it takes a lot longer and lot more product and skill to give her a near flawless look.

Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote:
That was a F#$& You Rate

You pretty much nailed it. Many models will quote a high rate when they do not want the job for whatever their reason is.

altSWANK wrote:
...and even myself.  lol

Last year, I replied to a thread about rates stating that a freelance Russian model in NYC wanted $300 per hour for fashion nudes.  At the time I thought that was exorbitant, and that no one on MM could top it.  This week, somebody proved me wrong. 

I've been speaking with a freelance model about doing a few hours of fashion nude.  She hasn't been that active on MM lately but it seems she's been doing a few small shoots with a few NYC photographers now and then.   She advertises her availability to do nudes on her MM profile and has done many before.

We were setting up a shoot yesterday over facebook messaging.  Everything was going great. She tells me her rate is $75/ hour, which I assume is for "everything".   I sent her my fashion nude moodboard, which is pretty standard with images of famous models doing fashion nude poses.  She replies back, "NUDES ARE $500 per hour".     

I almost fell backwards out of my chair, lol.  When I recomposed myself, I said "thank you, but I think your rates are out of my league.  Sorry to have bothered you".

I'm pretty sure I've topped all of you.  Has anybody received rates quoted higher than that?

I could afford about 2 minutes at that rate.

altSWANK wrote:
I'm not making it a big deal, you are.  And I did walk away (....there's goes that low reading comprehension again). 

If we can have threads about escorts, "most embarrassing photoshoot mistakes" and "what to do if she's shows up fatter than in her profile"...then my topic is just as valid.   Who pissed in your cornflakes pal?  lol

Ok.. I'm confused. Why did she threaten to put you in jail?

Ivan123 wrote:
Anybody can say anything at all.  There was a model in my area, a beginner with bad pictures who put on her profile that she (1)  charges $1000/hr and (2) was booked months in advance.  I assume it was some inside joke.  I didn't get too exercised about it.

$1,000/ hour !!??
Ivan123, I think you got me beat!   I bow to you sir. 

altSWANK wrote:
I'm not making it a big deal, you are.  And I did walk away (....there's goes that low reading comprehension again).

Let me remind you of part of what I said...

Looknsee Photography wrote:
But who cares?  If you don't like her price, go ahead & walk away (as the OP apparently did).

So, what were you saying about "low reading comprehension"? 

altSWANK wrote:
@John Jebbia, I think you either posted in the wrong thread or you're confusing me with the guy that threatened Nicole Vaunt (that whole mess.). 

Well I think everyone should experience jail at least once in their lifetime... the strip search is the fun part.

altSWANK wrote:
...and even myself.  lol

Last year, I replied to a thread about rates stating that a freelance Russian model in NYC wanted $300 per hour for fashion nudes.  At the time I thought that was exorbitant, and that no one on MM could top it.  This week, somebody proved me wrong. 

I've been speaking with a freelance model about doing a few hours of fashion nude.  She hasn't been that active on MM lately but it seems she's been doing a few small shoots with a few NYC photographers now and then.   She advertises her availability to do nudes on her MM profile and has done many before.

We were setting up a shoot yesterday over facebook messaging.  Everything was going great. She tells me her rate is $75/ hour, which I assume is for "everything".   I sent her my fashion nude moodboard, which is pretty standard with images of famous models doing fashion nude poses.  She replies back, "NUDES ARE $500 per hour".      

I almost fell backwards out of my chair, lol.  When I recomposed myself, I said "thank you, but I think your rates are out of my league.  Sorry to have bothered you".

I'm pretty sure I've topped all of you.  Has anybody received rates quoted higher than that?

Wow!   You assumed.   Then her rates jump from $75 an hour to $500     Then everything was not going great!    I wonder what you said or did to cause that to happen?  Making assumptions is not a smart thing to do.  However, I do know of professional models (not on this site!) who get more than $500 an hour.  You can hire them through agencies. 

Dan Howell wrote:
Yes, you win the race to prove how much a model DOESN'T want to work with you. I think that comes with a blue ribbon.

SWANKfab wrote:
For the peanut gallery that is suggesting she didn't want to work with me...not true.

This particular model willingly agreed to do a "two model shoot", two weeks from now, with me and a mutual "model friend".  The rate for that "two model shoot" was not discussed yet but the concept was agreed upon and the date was set. They both live next to each other in NYC and were coming together on the train. 

This was a sidebar conversation for just her and I to do something together- like in her MM portfolio.

Oh really?  So the rate has not been discussed yet?  Isn't that making assumptions?    I don't like to make assumptions, but you don't sound like you are communicating well, either here or perhaps with the model.

Marin Photography NYC wrote:
Depends on the model really.  I wouldn't expect a popular model who is signed to work for $50hr if she is usually making $3k per shoot.  Too many people on MM think $100hr is the max when it isn't. Look around and see what you get for that rate here on MM.  You will be disappointed in some cases if not many. lol

I know for sure that $500 an hour is not an unheard of rate ... especially for nudes and/or popular models.

altSWANK wrote:
I'm not making it a big deal, you are.  And I did walk away (....there's goes that low reading comprehension again). 

If we can have threads about escorts, "most embarrassing photoshoot mistakes" and "what to do if she's shows up fatter than in her profile"...then my topic is just as valid.   Who pissed in your cornflakes pal?  lol

Just because there are many repetitive threads about the same old issues, and often times from newbies ... does not mean this particular thread is just as valid.   You admit you are just adding more fuel to the fire.  Some people know better. 

SWANKfab wrote:
For the peanut gallery that is suggesting she didn't want to work with me...not true.

This particular model willingly agreed to do a "two model shoot", two weeks from now, with me and a mutual "model friend".  The rate for that "two model shoot" was not discussed yet but the concept was agreed upon and the date was set. They both live next to each other in NYC and were coming together on the train. 

This was a sidebar conversation for just her and I to do something together- like in her MM portfolio.

I wasn't one of those suggesting that, but since it was mentioned, some models will reduce their rates to what they consider a half trade/half paid agreement, if they like working with the photographer and the photographer's work.

Sounds like this model isn't throwing you any breaks, and of course most models would willingly agree to a paid shoot.

So while I do think she wants to work with you, the income stream would seem to be of primary importance.

altSWANK wrote:
Well, ya got me there @Looknsee.   Dan Howell must be rubbing off on me.  doh!

Or, maybe, maybe, I went back & edited my posting after you posted.  Yes, I'm just that devious! 

Peter House wrote:
Its all relative. My clients pay more than that for talent sometimes. Heck, they pay me more than that sometimes.

For MM though, I suppose that is on the higher end of things.

I would be surprised if any talent's fees are higher than photographers

(assuming talent is not an A list hollywood star)

Mortonovich wrote:
Unicorn models have gnarly rates.

..and they are horny.

DOUGLASFOTOS wrote:
No...I got you all beat...there is a male model here on mm that demands $5000 plus per shoot. Yep...Life is a big lie on the net.

The internet . . . where everyone is a star. Even if they are not.