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MJS PHOTO

Posts: 26

Liverpool, England, United Kingdom

I've got lots of ideas for my future but my main 2 are photography and property development and since there are so many awesome people on here I figured I'd ask if you could check this out;

gofundme.com/z3f7xrf7

you don't have to donate anything even if you just share it online that'd be amazing

thanks for your time!

Jul 10 15 05:20 pm Link

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Jim Ball

Posts: 17632

Frontenac, Kansas, US

popcorn

When you people approach me in supermarket parking lots, I don't buy your stories then either.

Jul 10 15 06:51 pm Link

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Photos 4 The Memories

Posts: 1308

Kewaskum, Wisconsin, US

Ibtl

Jul 10 15 07:31 pm Link

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Brooklyn Bridge Images

Posts: 13200

Brooklyn, New York, US

Photos 4 The Memories  wrote:
Ibtl

I think they are allowing these begging threads

Jul 10 15 07:41 pm Link

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Shot By Adam

Posts: 8089

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

MJS PHOTO wrote:
I've got lots of ideas for my future but my main 2 are photography and property development and since there are so many awesome people on here I figured I'd ask if you could check this out;

gofundme.com/z3f7xrf7

you don't have to donate anything even if you just share it online that'd be amazing

thanks for your time!

Oh that's priceless! I guess just holding a cardboard sign on a street corner wasn't working out for you, eh?

https://i.imgur.com/Kb9jB5M.jpg

Jul 10 15 09:51 pm Link

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GK photo

Posts: 31025

Laguna Beach, California, US

ah, the entitlement generation continues to shine. god bless the interwebz.

good luck with your future endeavors, you dreamer. smile

Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote:
I think they are allowing these begging threads

that does seem to be the case, of late.

Jul 10 15 09:54 pm Link

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martin b

Posts: 2770

Manila, National Capital Region, Philippines

I'm not sure what a job pays in England, but jobs here in the Philippines you can expect about $1 per hour.  I am assuming you would be able to out earn most of my fellow countrymen.

Jul 10 15 10:10 pm Link

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Jay Dezelic

Posts: 5029

Seattle, Washington, US

Why dream?  Just do.

Jul 10 15 11:08 pm Link

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KungPaoChic

Posts: 4221

West Palm Beach, Florida, US

GK photo wrote:
ah, the entitlement generation continues to shine. god bless the interwebz.

good luck with your future endeavors, you dreamer. smile


that does seem to be the case, of late.

I'm still waiting for my pony.

Life is so unfair.

Jul 10 15 11:12 pm Link

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Click Hamilton

Posts: 36555

San Diego, California, US

MJS PHOTO wrote:
gofundme.com/z3f7xrf7

It's painful to ponder why you would even post something like this associated with your name and photo.

KungPaoChic wrote:
I'm still waiting for my pony.

On the other hand, sometimes I feel charitable.

http://www.pbase.com/click_hamilton/image/60932396

Jul 10 15 11:16 pm Link

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GK photo

Posts: 31025

Laguna Beach, California, US

Jul 10 15 11:23 pm Link

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KungPaoChic

Posts: 4221

West Palm Beach, Florida, US

Click Hamilton wrote:

It's painful to ponder why you would even post something like this associated with your name and photo.


On the other hand, sometimes I feel charitable.

http://www.pbase.com/click_hamilton/image/60932396

How high can you jump?

I mean I don't mean to sound ungrateful but how do you feel about 3 day eventing?

Jul 10 15 11:24 pm Link

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KungPaoChic

Posts: 4221

West Palm Beach, Florida, US

Jul 10 15 11:25 pm Link

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GK photo

Posts: 31025

Laguna Beach, California, US

KungPaoChic wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN2AD6Bbj5s

lol you make me look like such a piker, with the youtube links.

you are hall of fame...i am merely looking for my first gold glove. smile

Jul 10 15 11:29 pm Link

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Click Hamilton

Posts: 36555

San Diego, California, US

KungPaoChic wrote:
How high can you jump?

I mean I don't mean to sound ungrateful but how do you feel about 3 day eventing?

I don't know, but I'm happy to try.

But first, I want to go fishing in my kayak. My alarm is set for 3am tomorrow morning. I'll probably be back by 8 or 9 am.

What energy I have left after that, you can take me jumping. Maybe we can have a halibut for lunch.


.... what's a 3-day eventing?

Jul 10 15 11:29 pm Link

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KungPaoChic

Posts: 4221

West Palm Beach, Florida, US

GK photo wrote:

lol you make me look like such a piker, with the youtube links.

you are hall of fame...i am merely looking for my first gold glove. smile

I keep thinking there must be some kind of job in there somewhere -- I mean can I put that on my resume.

YOUTUBE EXPERT!!!

Let me score your life tongue

Jul 10 15 11:30 pm Link

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KungPaoChic

Posts: 4221

West Palm Beach, Florida, US

Click Hamilton wrote:
I don't know, but I'm happy to try.

But first, I want to go fishing in my kayak. My alarm is set for 3am tomorrow morning. I'll probably be back by 8 or 9 am.

What energy I have left after that, you can take me jumping. Maybe we can have a halibut for lunch.

Well three day eventing means you have to do the dressage component first ( I know you can dance cause I have seen your tutu), next is the cross country and finally the show jumping.

So clear your calendar for the next few days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eventing

Kind of like triathalon for horses, so better eat your wheaties.

Jul 10 15 11:33 pm Link

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Click Hamilton

Posts: 36555

San Diego, California, US

KungPaoChic wrote:
Well three day eventing means you have to do the dressage component first ( I know you can dance cause I have seen your tutu), next is the cross country and finally the show jumping.

So clear your calendar for the next few days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eventing

Kind of like triathalon for horses, so better eat your wheaties.

OK.

Is my coat and hat OK for the dressage component?

Jul 10 15 11:35 pm Link

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KungPaoChic

Posts: 4221

West Palm Beach, Florida, US

Click Hamilton wrote:
OK.

Is my coat and hat OK for the dressage component?

You're the horse. You don't need anything but your saddle and bridle and tutu -- I'll get out my tophat and tails.

But you'll need your shin boots for the cross country.

Jul 10 15 11:45 pm Link

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SayCheeZ!

Posts: 20614

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote:
I think they are allowing these begging threads

I dunno, his other beggin thread was locked
https://www.modelmayhem.com/forums/post/947522

Jul 11 15 12:31 am Link

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KungPaoChic

Posts: 4221

West Palm Beach, Florida, US

SayCheeZ!  wrote:

I dunno, his other beggin thread was locked
https://www.modelmayhem.com/forums/post/947522

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHgGo5dNgeg

Jul 11 15 12:35 am Link

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Shadow Dancer

Posts: 9775

Bellingham, Washington, US

Jul 11 15 12:46 am Link

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Solas

Posts: 10390

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

10 grand to get started on a business venture is very low. But this is not a venture idea, the presentation does not reveal it anyway. Not sure how smart it is however, from the sounds of it you are looking for the down payment ..the intracies behind which I get the impression you likely do not realize both industries are riddled with pitfalls

I'm also a dreamer, but with one big difference..I do just as much doing as I do dreaming. Often more than I dream. People know me for that, I have somewhat of a reputation now. If you want to explore those avenues I wish you the best. I would skip crowdfunding. People invest in projects that will benefit themselves in some way usually it is not to help a stranger along. Unless you give them reason to, nobody is going to care. It may be an idea to explore your local municipality business development office. Over here they help point you on where to get started and how to find grants. Permits. Licensing. They often will consult on how to write a business plan. How to find people to work with.


But really. If you are serious. Nothing and no criticism will stop you. But, poor planning and presentation will slow you down. Go see some local experts or work with someone who can allow you to take baby steps towards your goal. It's not going to happen on this thread, likely. Having good ideas is one thing. Don't get caught up in being an idea junkie .. focus on one thing at once.

Here's a youtube video for inspiration wink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RubBzkZzpUA

Jul 11 15 02:42 am Link

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Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

KungPaoChic wrote:

I keep thinking there must be some kind of job in there somewhere -- I mean can I put that on my resume.

YOUTUBE EXPERT!!!

Let me score your life tongue

You are the YOU TUBE EXPERT!    smile

Jul 11 15 04:10 am Link

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ChadAlan

Posts: 4254

Los Angeles, California, US

KungPaoChic wrote:
I keep thinking there must be some kind of job in there somewhere -- I mean can I put that on my resume.

YOUTUBE EXPERT!!!

Let me score your life tongue

Jerry Nemeth wrote:
You are the YOU TUBE EXPERT!    smile

Now this I agree with.

Although the space you put between "You" and "Tube" hit me in a Beavis and Butthead sorta way and I can't help but read the comment quite differently.

Haha.

Jul 11 15 04:41 am Link

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ChadAlan

Posts: 4254

Los Angeles, California, US

MJS PHOTO wrote:
I've got lots of ideas for my future but my main 2 are photography and property development and since there are so many awesome people on here I figured I'd ask if you could check this out;

gofundme.com/z3f7xrf7

you don't have to donate anything even if you just share it online that'd be amazing

thanks for your time!

I don't think you'll raise more than a few dollars, except that from friends and family, but can't blame you for trying. I think you're better off talking to people or potential investors in person.

With so many out there in need of serious financial help in order to simply live a safe, decent and healthy life, it's hard to imagine philanthropists donating just so you can fulfill you dreams. Stranger things have happened though smile

It's like the many crowdfunding requests I see that go like, "My camera was broken/lost/stolen or isn't good enough and I really need a new camera so I can take even better photos. It's always been my dream to become a photographer.  In exchange I'll send you some photos taken with my new camera". Then they proceed to ask for money to buy high-end gear and lenses.

Jul 11 15 04:51 am Link

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PhillipM

Posts: 8049

Nashville, Tennessee, US

Photos 4 The Memories  wrote:
Ibtl

DITTO

BTW,,,, I'm going to trade SUV's today..  Can anyone help a brotha out?

Jul 11 15 04:53 am Link

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ChadAlan

Posts: 4254

Los Angeles, California, US

PhillipM wrote:

DITTO

BTW,,,, I'm going to trade SUV's today..  Can anyone help a brotha out?

Send me your link tongue

This guy got a new car through donations almost a year and a half ago, and his campaign is still open and accepting donations, although no one has donated lately. Kinda messed up.

http://www.gofundme.com/matts-car

Jul 11 15 05:12 am Link

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Koryn

Posts: 39496

Boston, Massachusetts, US

GK photo wrote:
ah, the entitlement generation continues to shine. god bless the interwebz.

good luck with your future endeavors, you dreamer. smile


that does seem to be the case, of late.

My boss is much older than this "entitlement generation" of which you speak, yet he used a crowd funding site to raise $10,000 to help with initial costs of starting a small business.

It's no different than any other type of advertising.

Jul 11 15 05:16 am Link

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PhillipM

Posts: 8049

Nashville, Tennessee, US

ChadAlan wrote:

Send me your link tongue

This guy got a new car through donations almost a year and a half ago, and his campaign is still open and accepting donations, although no one has donated lately. Kinda messed up.

http://www.gofundme.com/matts-car

Hey you know... A dollar here, a 5 spot here and there add's up. 

Maybe I'm missing out on sump'n...

Jul 11 15 05:17 am Link

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Solas

Posts: 10390

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Koryn wrote:
My boss is much older than this "entitlement generation" of which you speak, yet he used a crowd funding site to raise $10,000 to help with initial costs of starting a small business.

It's no different than any other type of advertising.

That's not really advertising .. raising capital, sure . well, whatever. Throw the terms out the window for a minute. There's a lot of difference between different types of advertising for different types of industries.

Crowdfunding works, sure. But There's not enough info to tell where the money came from in your example. A lot of times it starts on Crowdfunding and then family and friends donate that way. The likeliehood of absolute strangers doing it, with no story, no background, no incentive or relation to the person.. fairly slim.... there are successful crowdfunded campaigns for just about anything but, judging by the tiny blurb the op gave us I highly doubt his will be successful. A lot of people think they can just sign up for these accounts and FLASH. 10 grand. 100 grand. All my dreams come true thanks to rich strangers. Yet a lot of the successful campaigns are very intricately designed, and a lot of them rely on luck. There are far better, more effective ways of seeking capital for new entrepreneurs.

Jul 11 15 05:32 am Link

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Shot By Adam

Posts: 8089

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Koryn wrote:

My boss is much older than this "entitlement generation" of which you speak, yet he used a crowd funding site to raise $10,000 to help with initial costs of starting a small business.

It's no different than any other type of advertising.

My bet is your boss had an actual business plan, an established history of some sort of the industry he was starting the business in, already had researched the market, invested lots of his own money into already, had a promo video, etc. Plus, he most likely had a database of people he could hit-up for the funds as well.

This guy is doing nothing short of begging in the forums with an eye patch and a tin cup. There's a difference.

Jul 11 15 06:43 am Link

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Shot By Adam

Posts: 8089

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

SayCheeZ!  wrote:
I dunno, his other beggin thread was locked
https://www.modelmayhem.com/forums/post/947522

Yeah, but you can definitely see how he progressed through all of this:

https://www.modelmayhem.com/forums/post/946690

And while we're at it, has anyone bothered to look at the OP's profile (or lack thereof)? It doesn't exactly inspire me to want to give money to him any more than it would to give money to those guys from Nigeria  who contacted me yesterday about this great gig they want me to shoot and transfer some of the money to their local agent after I'm paid.

Jul 11 15 06:45 am Link

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Connor Photography

Posts: 8539

Newark, Delaware, US

Shot By Adam wrote:
Oh that's priceless! I guess just holding a cardboard sign on a street corner wasn't working out for you, eh?

Adam, that is way too much work.  I prefer to let my fingers do the walking and relax at home.  Who knows, I may get lucky to catch a sugar mama.   I am a genius.

Jul 11 15 06:48 am Link

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Blue Cube Imaging

Posts: 11883

Ashland, Oregon, US

Moderator Note!
Please stick to the subject at hand.

As I recall we are now allowing industry related Kickstarter, GoFundMe, Indiegogo type campaigns (I might have missed the memo that we aren't any longer).

So the site rules for forums still apply:

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Jul 11 15 07:34 am Link

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Hair Face Photo

Posts: 2

Dallas, Texas, US

I want a tennis bracelet and my old butt back but I'm not getting that either.

Jul 11 15 08:09 am Link

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Shot By Adam

Posts: 8089

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Blue Cube Imaging wrote:
- "Vote for me" threads, links, and posts are not allowed.

I fail to see the difference between most of these "please give me money because I'd like to get some free money" begging threads and the "Come vote for me so I can be popular on some unknown website" threads.

Might I suggest you guys create a special area for the begging/gofundme announcements before these forums turn into this:

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/501369-20131220-0413161.jpg

Jul 11 15 08:21 am Link

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Blue Cube Imaging

Posts: 11883

Ashland, Oregon, US

Shot By Adam wrote:
Might I suggest you guys create a special area for the begging/gofundme announcements before these forums turn into this:

I feel the same way and this has been being discussed at the mod/admin level.

Jul 11 15 08:38 am Link

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Looknsee Photography

Posts: 26342

Portland, Oregon, US

Blue Cube Imaging wrote:
Please stick to the subject at hand.

As I recall we are now allowing industry related Kickstarter, GoFundMe, Indiegogo type campaigns (I might have missed the memo that we aren't any longer).

So the site rules for forums still apply:

I understand that Kickstarter, GoFundMe, etc. campaigns are allowed on forum.

I don't like it, but hey, them's the rules.  I think, however, the these campaigns can be easily abused, and the threads often devolve into ugly things.  I also note that "vote for me" threads are more restricted than "give me money" threads.

I wish MM would reconsider this policy, or failing that, I wish MM would create a separate forum for these threads.

Jul 11 15 08:55 am Link

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Blue Cube Imaging

Posts: 11883

Ashland, Oregon, US

Moderator Note!

Looknsee Photography wrote:

I understand that Kickstarter, GoFundMe, etc. campaigns are allowed on forum.

I don't like it, but hey, them's the rules.  I think, however, the these campaigns can be easily abused, and the threads often devolve into ugly things.  I also note that "vote for me" threads are more restricted than "give me money" threads.

I wish MM would reconsider this policy, or failing that, I wish MM would create a separate forum for these threads.

Open a site related thread on the subject for member input. This isn't the proper venue.

Jul 11 15 08:59 am Link