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Marcio Faustino

Posts: 2811

Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany

The windows did a update that made ma computer streemly slow recently.
I tried the recover files but I didn't set this up previously so it doesn't work now.
It seems the only option is to reinstal the windows. But I would like to keep the win10 instead of the win8.1 I used to have.
So how to reinstall it?

Sep 26 15 04:38 am Link

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Michael Bots

Posts: 8020

Kingston, Ontario, Canada

Even though a "clean" installation gives the best system performance ---

The upgrade licence keys do not work with a "new" installation.  You must start over with Win 8.1 and then upgrade again and hope it works    (or switch to Linux Mint or something)

Sep 26 15 05:01 am Link

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Marcio Faustino

Posts: 2811

Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany

Michael Bots wrote:
Even though a "clean" installation gives the best system performance ---

The upgrade licence keys do not work with a "new" installation.  You must start over with Win 8.1 and then upgrade again and hope it works    (or switch to Linux Mint or something)

Thanks.

This linux stuff is friendly and easy for any body who does not no nothing bout computer? And does ir runs photoshop?

Sep 26 15 05:35 am Link

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Michael Bots

Posts: 8020

Kingston, Ontario, Canada

I find it user friendly but I have a computer background.

It is different from Windows but the differences are no greater than those between Windows and the Apple  operating system.
It can be run from either a DVD or USB stick without installing to the hard disk if you want to try it.

Best part -- it's free and open source.

Linux can be made to run Photoshop, but not easily. (see links)
There are other Linux specific programs that are similar and cover most of the same functions. (GIMP)
Depends in part on what you are using Photoshop for.

see
http://www.linuxmint.com/
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mint
http://www.linuxmintusers.de/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Mint

"In Issue 128 (July 2013), Linux User and Developer gave Linux Mint 15 ("Olivia") a score of 5/5, stating "We haven't found a single problem with the distro… we're more than satisfied with the smooth, user-friendly experience that Linux Mint 15, and Cinnamon 1.8, provides for it to be our main distro for at least another 6 months."[57]"



How to Install Photoshop in linux Ubuntu or Mint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTHl1ClTCCY

How to install photoshop cs6 ubuntu Linux
https://gist.github.com/jahid284/5da29b997fb4cca0c34a

How to install Photoshop CC in Linux
http://www.yaseendadabhay.com/linux/how … -in-linux/

Photoshop cs6 64 bit on mint
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p … p;t=153904

"If you have a open mind about GIMP, you should try GIMPSHOP, which will transform GIMP to look and work more like Photoshop."

Sep 26 15 06:13 am Link

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GRMACK

Posts: 5436

Bakersfield, California, US

Thanks for the heads-up on the roll back to get 10 running again.  I think I'll wait and buy the damn Win 10.x disk early next year when it gets debugged further.  I don't want to spend a week formatting, re-installing from scratch, and patching it up from an old OS version to get it to a newer one.  I suspect a lot of old Windows OS lurks on the drive on the update versions doing it that way.

Seems that's the tactic MS used with 8.0 to 8.1 too.  Buy Windows 8.0, and then they came out with 8.1 and the reinstall key for 8.0 does not work with 8.1 so you cannot do a refresh or repair, only do a new install which means a drive-wipe and install of 8.0 and then go through the online 8.1 update process all over and then install your software.  That or buy another MS disk with 8.1 and it's new key and install it to hope you can keep some installed software intact.  I let MS support tinker, but it needs a new reinstall to get it back to 100% since they knackered it up last summer with an update they quickly pulled once they found the update was screwing some machines up (mine!).  Auto-update seems a very bad idea with 10 as it was with 8.0.

I think some are going to get into the same mess at some point with 10.0.  MS will issue some auto-update that will hose 10.0 as happened to me with 8.0 last Aug/Sept. when mine stopped doing any auto-updates at all.  Then they'll want you to buy the 10.0 or 10.1, 10.2 disk or whatever to do a repair rather than wipe the drive and start over fresh.  It won't be all that free as they claim it is when stuff hits the fan.  Been there - and still am - with 8.0 and a funky running and non-updateable 8.1.  I cannot imagine having to go back to 8.0, then 8.1, then 10.  Really is a bad design and the key should be the same for all off the original disk, but they don't make money doing it that way.

Sep 26 15 06:59 am Link

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One Eye Blind

Posts: 547

San Martin, California, US

GRMACK wrote:
...

Seems that's the tactic MS used with 8.0 to 8.1 too.  Buy Windows 8.0, and then they came out with 8.1 and the reinstall key for 8.0 does not work with 8.1 so you cannot do a refresh or repair, only do a new install which means a drive-wipe and install of 8.0 and then go through the online 8.1 update process all over and then install your software.  That or buy another MS disk with 8.1 and it's new key and install it to hope you can keep some installed software intact.  I let MS support tinker, but it needs a new reinstall to get it back to 100% since they knackered it up last summer with an update they quickly pulled once they found the update was screwing some machines up (mine!).  Auto-update seems a very bad idea with 10 as it was with 8.0.
...

for what it's worth
how to install 8.1 with an 8.0 key

http://blogs.technet.com/b/canitpro/arc … 8-key.aspx

Sep 26 15 12:29 pm Link

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Click Hamilton

Posts: 36555

San Diego, California, US

Are people generally happy with Windows 10 or is it still too early to upgrade?

I'm using Windows 7 Home Premium

Sep 26 15 01:21 pm Link

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American Glamour

Posts: 38813

Detroit, Michigan, US

Click Hamilton wrote:
Are people generally happy with Windows 10 or is it still too early to upgrade?

I'm using Windows 7 Home Premium

I love Windows 10.  I'm in the process of upgrading all of my personal machines as we speak.

Michael Bots wrote:
Even though a "clean" installation gives the best system performance ---

The upgrade licence keys do not work with a "new" installation.  You must start over with Win 8.1 and then upgrade again and hope it works    (or switch to Linux Mint or something)

And actually, that is incorrect.  Once you have installed Windows 10 on a machine once, you can do a clean re-install without having to revert to Windows 8..1 or Windows 7 first.

If you go to this link and look at the various pages, it will tell you how to download Windows 10 to create an installable ISO.  They will also give you instructions on how to re-install on a machine that had been previously upgraded as well as instructions on how to contact customer support if you have issues.

That having been said, you can certainly first install Windows 8.1 and then do the upgrade.  It isn't necessary though.

Sep 26 15 01:35 pm Link

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Normad2

Posts: 583

San Francisco, California, US

Click Hamilton wrote:
Are people generally happy with Windows 10 or is it still too early to upgrade?

I'm using Windows 7 Home Premium

I upgraded on day 1.
No regrets.
(upgraded from win8.1)

I only use python, creative cloud suite or whatever the name, and several compilers.
I'm happy :-)

YMMV.

Sep 26 15 02:29 pm Link

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Tony Lawrence

Posts: 21526

Chicago, Illinois, US

Marcio, I use several Linux distros (versions)   I find them easier then Windows or OS X.   While Photo Shop can work on them why not try GIMP.   Its similar to Windows.   Does layers and its free.  Linux is generally safer on-line the Windows.
In other words fewer problems with malware or virus.   Best of all you can try and use them for free.   Some like ARCH and Gentoo Debian and Fedora are a bit more complicated to get things going on but with a bit of research you'll be fine.

Sep 26 15 02:36 pm Link

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Marcio Faustino

Posts: 2811

Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany

Michael Bots wrote:
I find it user friendly but I have a computer background.

It is different from Windows but the differences are no greater than those between Windows and the Apple  operating system.
It can be run from either a DVD or USB stick without installing to the hard disk if you want to try it.

Best part -- it's free and open source.

Linux can be made to run Photoshop, but not easily. (see links)
There are other Linux specific programs that are similar and cover most of the same functions. (GIMP)
Depends in part on what you are using Photoshop for.

see
http://www.linuxmint.com/
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mint
http://www.linuxmintusers.de/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Mint

"In Issue 128 (July 2013), Linux User and Developer gave Linux Mint 15 ("Olivia") a score of 5/5, stating "We haven't found a single problem with the distro… we're more than satisfied with the smooth, user-friendly experience that Linux Mint 15, and Cinnamon 1.8, provides for it to be our main distro for at least another 6 months."[57]"



How to Install Photoshop in linux Ubuntu or Mint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTHl1ClTCCY

How to install photoshop cs6 ubuntu Linux
https://gist.github.com/jahid284/5da29b997fb4cca0c34a

How to install Photoshop CC in Linux
http://www.yaseendadabhay.com/linux/how … -in-linux/

Photoshop cs6 64 bit on mint
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p … p;t=153904

"If you have a open mind about GIMP, you should try GIMPSHOP, which will transform GIMP to look and work more like Photoshop."

Wow!!! Thanks a lot. smile

Sep 26 15 05:57 pm Link

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Marcio Faustino

Posts: 2811

Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany

Tony Lawrence wrote:
Marcio, I use several Linux distros (versions)   I find them easier then Windows or OS X.   While Photo Shop can work on them why not try GIMP.   Its similar to Windows.   Does layers and its free.  Linux is generally safer on-line the Windows.
In other words fewer problems with malware or virus.   Best of all you can try and use them for free.   Some like ARCH and Gentoo Debian and Fedora are a bit more complicated to get things going on but with a bit of research you'll be fine.

I certainly will try.
Thank you very much. smile

Sep 26 15 06:03 pm Link

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Brooklyn Bridge Images

Posts: 13200

Brooklyn, New York, US

Click Hamilton wrote:
Are people generally happy with Windows 10 or is it still too early to upgrade?

I'm using Windows 7 Home Premium

Talked to Illiterate friend a few days ago who did it
None of her printers, other peripherals work any more
I laughed at her

Sep 26 15 06:03 pm Link

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- Phil H -

Posts: 26552

Mildenhall, England, United Kingdom

Click Hamilton wrote:
Are people generally happy with Windows 10 or is it still too early to upgrade?

I'm using Windows 7 Home Premium

Based on your past posts I kinda get the impression you're not too keen on the idea of corporate snooping, where your personal life/activities are concerned, right?

If that assumption is correct, you might want to look into that aspect of Win 10. Based on what I've read from various sources, Win 10 collects and sends back to MS, far more "personal" information, re what's on your computer, how it's used, etc, etc, than any of their previous versions of Windows. The degree to which it trawls your data, can be even more intrusive, if you create an MS account as part of the installation (including scanning mail, docs, etc) .

It's also worth bearing in mind, with Win10 Home, your ability to customize your Win experience is considerably more restricted, than it is with Pro and above. This I believe, includes things like the forced pushing of updates, without the option to opt out, etc.

Long story short, if you value privacy or just plain don't like the idea of MS getting into your shit, research before installing, opt for a Pro version and customize the installation and privacy settings as required. Doing so, should go a long way to offsetting a lot of the built in "snooping".

Sep 26 15 06:37 pm Link

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Click Hamilton

Posts: 36555

San Diego, California, US

- Phil H - wrote:
Long story short, if you value privacy or just plain don't like the idea of MS getting into your shit, research before installing, opt for a Pro version and customize the installation and privacy settings as required. Doing so, should go a long way to offsetting a lot of the built in "snooping".

An outstanding point.

I read about this side of Win 10 too.

Yes, I would like to advocate in favor of privacy and private ownership of our own personal information as much as possible, but I know there is little privacy left in the world. Yes again, companies like MS, Google, Facebook, etc. who aggressively harvest and cross-reference so much of our personal information without us knowing or understanding what they are doing or doing with it is invasive and annoying, to say the least.

The Chinese probably already know more about me than I know about myself.

What's a Mother to do?

Sep 26 15 08:33 pm Link