Good Egg Productions wrote:
To the OP:
Depending on how much you're asking for the erotic work, why is it out of the realm of possibility that it's for POV erotic work with the other participant being the photographer?

Wow.  So model quotes high rates = the photographer automatically can assume that it includes touching and/or porn and/or sex acts?  Disgusting.

To the OP - flag the message and contact a moderator.  That "photographer" is not allowed on MM if he's asking for that.

Koryn wrote:
I had someone ask something like that back in 2010.

I CAMed them.

? What does that mean ?

Branditoxicrose wrote:
? What does that mean ?

Contact A Moderator.
Basically report them for something inappropriate.

however, in this case we dont know if it was inappropriate or not to ask that depending on what was discussed.
if for some reason the "photographer" was confused by your message, maybe you should be more clear about what "erotic acts" means in your message to him.

MoRina wrote:
Wow.  So model quotes high rates = the photographer automatically can assume that it includes touching and/or porn and/or sex acts?  Disgusting.

i dont think he automatically assumed based on a price.
since she wrote that he said "you only want to get paid for erotic acts?"
i'm guessing she gave him a rate for "erotic acts" in which case him asking for more details/limits (although crude sounding) isn't really out of line if theyre discussing an erotic act.

...which sounds fishy and is not really supposed to be allowed on MM.

Branditoxicrose wrote:
? What does that mean ?

Paolo Diavolo wrote:
Contact A Moderator.
Basically report them for something inappropriate.

Yeah, if someone attempts to solicit sexual favors, you go to the "contact a moderator" feature.

Report it.

Koryn wrote:
Yeah, if someone attempts to solicit sexual favors, you go to the "contact a moderator" feature.

Report it.

I agree.

in this case unless she gives us details, we don't know that he was asking for favors.
what he did say didn't seem to be random. its more like something about their conversation led him to ask.

when someone offers a service where things get more explicit the more money a person throws down well, eventually someone will be curious to see how far things can go.

aquarelle wrote:
I always think it's funny (or reason to question my own communication skills) when a model I've hired for a nude project texts me the morning of asking "what should I wear?"

this made me laugh!

do you reply with "birthday suit"?

MoRina wrote:

Wow.  So model quotes high rates = the photographer automatically can assume that it includes touching and/or porn and/or sex acts?  Disgusting.

To the OP - flag the message and contact a moderator.  That "photographer" is not allowed on MM if he's asking for that.

If we are going to report photographers for asking models to define what "erotic acts" are, then we should be reporting models who do "erotic acts".
POV interaction during nude or erotic photography is not necessarily disgusting or inappropriate.  It's also not necessarily against the rules of MM.  Don't just jump to conclusions about things without knowing the details.

Many models on here do adult work in addition to straighter model work.  Many photographers here shoot erotic content in addition to straighter mainstream work.  If we CAM all of us and get the banhammer, this community will get much smaller.

Good Egg Productions wrote:

If we are going to report photographers for asking models to define what "erotic acts" are, then we should be reporting models who do "erotic acts".
POV interaction during nude or erotic photography is not necessarily disgusting or inappropriate.  It's also not necessarily against the rules of MM.  Don't just jump to conclusions about things without knowing the details.

Many models on here do adult work in addition to straighter model work.  Many photographers here shoot erotic content in addition to straighter mainstream work.  If we CAM all of us and get the banhammer, this community will get much smaller.

You apparently didn't understand that I was put off by your answer.  I quoted the offensive part for you and everything.

CamelliaFlower wrote:
Someone very recently asked me to retouch a photo they liked of themselves. They requested a few minor cosmetic changes to their appearance, and also to "improve the resolution and remove the background to make it look like a studio pic".

They then proceeded to send me the grainiest, lowest-quality cell phone photo I have ever seen in this decade.

I had to carefully explain to her why what she wanted was not possible.

unrealistic expectation! theyve been watching too much TV haha.

Paolo Diavolo wrote:
unrealistic expectation! theyve been watching too much TV haha.

Took a lot of restraint to respond "Honey...this isn't CSI: New York"!

Let's just blow up the picture real big and sharpen until all the missing pixels appear.

MoRina wrote:

You apparently didn't understand that I was put off by your answer.  I quoted the offensive part for you and everything.

Then I probably misspoke originally.  The amount a model charges shouldn't be the reason to assume that touching would be allowed or involved.  A model's rates are her business and for her to justify.   My point is that if you want to know the answer to a question, you have to ask the question. 

My problem is that everyone jumps immediately to "CAM that jerk" just for asking a question.

CamelliaFlower wrote:

Took a lot of restraint to respond "Honey...this isn't CSI: New York"!

Let's just blow up the picture real big and sharpen until all the missing pixels appear.

thats exactly what i was thinking!

Risen Phoenix Photo wrote:
After a review of the OPs profile.....I wonder what the OP means when she says she shoots ADULT NUDES.  How is that different than erotic nudes?  I almost only shoot nudes and have never run into that genre before.

Perhaps she can explain ...

Thanks

open leg. erotic nudes to me is closed leg

Branditoxicrose wrote:

open leg. erotic nudes to me is closed leg

that makes no sense but I don't even shoot nudes.

if you're getting the wrong kind of offers you should probably take the word "ADULT" out of your profile where it comes to describing your nude work.

Paolo Diavolo wrote:

that makes no sense but I don't even shoot nudes.

if you're getting the wrong kind of offers you should probably take the word "ADULT" out of your profile where it comes to describing your nude work.

+1

aquarelle wrote:
I always think it's funny (or reason to question my own communication skills) when a model I've hired for a nude project texts me the morning of asking "what should I wear?"

Scheduled a model for a shoot, which would include her first nudes.  She asked if she should bring any clothes.  It's weird to me, because my nude shoots almost always include at least some clothing part of the time.

Art of the nude wrote:

Scheduled a model for a shoot, which would include her first nudes.  She asked if she should bring any clothes.  It's weird to me, because my nude shoots almost always include at least some clothing part of the time.

My avatar model was surprised that I asked her to bring the dress she is wearing.  She is primarily a nude model.

Branditoxicrose wrote:

open leg. erotic nudes to me is closed leg

Ok thanks for the definition, though that is different than most photographers define it. Most would say erotic is open leg, while adult would be considered something that would be against site rules.

Perhaps you should include your definition in your profile.  I think it could solve a lot of confusion.

Risen Phoenix Photo wrote:
Ok thanks for the definition, though that is different than most photographers define it. Most would say erotic is open leg, while adult would be considered something that would be against site rules..

+1

MainePaintah wrote:
I once had a woman who responded to my Craigslist ad for a "fine art nude model" ask me, "I can wear my bra and panties, right"?

Just Photoshop that stuff out, eh?

Twice I've had models respond to solicitations for lingerie shoots with, "I'm okay with doing lingerie as long as it's not too sexy." I didn't even bother to ask where the cutoff was. NEXT.

After one long bridal shoot for which I'd specified trade three times in negotiations, one of the models walked up to me at the end of the day and asked, "So. What's this job pay?" She started doing a not-so-slow boil when I reminded her she'd agreed to trade. It didn't help her mood any when I told her she should never do a shoot for which she doesn't know what the compensation is. She calmed down that evening when I bounced her a copy of one of her emails in which she explicitly agreed to the TF compensation. We ended up working together again.

Twice I've had models respond to solicitations for lingerie shoots with, "I'm okay with doing lingerie as long as it's not too sexy." I didn't even bother to ask where the cutoff was. NEXT.

I think its a legitimate question, but was just stated poorly. There is a large variance in coverage in what constitutes lingerie. To that end, I am very specific on the types of lingerie that I will wear and wont wear. Because I dont shoot nudes, I dont wear nipple bras and crotchless panties, so I can see where the model was going with the comment. When asked to do those types of shoots, I really hate to come across like a lawyer, but Id rather get everything out in the open (figuratively) than have someone pissed off that I cant/wont meet their expectations. Does that seem unreasonable?

CharlieMW wrote:
I dont wear nipple bras and crotchless panties, so I can see where the model was going with the comment.

IMO, showing nipples and vulva is nudity. Serious question: Does Victoria's Secret sell nipple bras and crotchless panties? In at least one of those solicitations, I specified Victoria's Secret style.

Branditoxicrose wrote:
So now you?

Rapper Asking Make-Me-Look-Dumb Questions

Paolo Diavolo wrote:

this made me laugh!

do you reply with "birthday suit"?

Sometimes I say, "You can wear anything you want TO and FROM the studio."

Orca Bay Images wrote:

IMO, showing nipples and vulva is nudity. Serious question: Does Victoria's Secret sell nipple bras and crotchless panties? In at least one of those solicitations, I specified Victoria's Secret style.

Victoria's Secret doesn't get any racier than a thong. But if you ask some of the photographers here, they will insist a shelf bra qualifies. That IMO goes a long way towards creating problems if not clarified beforehand.