Todd Meredith wrote:
We have a new hall monitor, ladies and gentlemen!!!

As for it being an olive branch, please break out your hooked on phonics and re-read her posting. It was anything but pleasant.  As for the "dick move", now who's being judgmental?  Normally I prefer to think that everyone's opinion matters.  In your case, I'll make the exception.

You couldn't let it go could you? You just can't <smh>

This is how you discuss? By trying to shout someone down by demeaning them as a hall monitor? Of course it is! It's exactly how you attacked the OP. I suppose these words, Trust begins with professionalism and the cornerstone of professionalism is respect. are just bullshit too. You've done nothing but add your own bias, passive aggressive insults and hate to this thread while bitching about how you feel personally insulted by a linked story. What a thin skin you must have. Yet in the process you created damn near an entire library of posts perfectly displaying a text book example of exactly what the OP was trying to discuss. Then you illustrate her point again perfectly when you decide it's okay to be all passive aggressive at the OP about needing psychological help  (read as you need to get help) and when it's pointed out that that's a dick move you immediately infer that it's you being called a dick. News flash it would have been a dick move for anyone who posted that. Based solely on the words you wrote before tacitly signing off with your back handed remark it's incredibly obvious that your comment reeked of insincerity. You wrote it so you should at least be man enough to own it.

As for breaking out hooked on phonics you may want to consult a dictionary as clearly you have no idea what the word phonics means in the context you used it. Feel free to keep right on the attack though you're revealing your true character more with every post.  Just an aside for you, even though the models may not be posting it doesn't mean they aren't reading what's been written so you may want to consider that when you decide to embark on your next ad hominem odyssey about them. Have a nice day, you're no longer worth my time.

Oh and if you can't recall those words in bold, they're out of your profile.

Le Chat, my apologies for jacking your thread. I'm done here, there's nothing else for me to say as apparently my next stop will be White Knight! 

JQuest wrote:

You couldn't let it go could you? You just can't <smh>

This is how you discuss? By trying to shout someone down by demeaning them as a hall monitor? Of course it is! It's exactly how you attacked the OP. I suppose these words, Trust begins with professionalism and the cornerstone of professionalism is respect. are just bullshit too. You've done nothing but add your own bias, passive aggressive insults and hate to this thread while bitching about how you feel personally insulted by a linked story. What a thin skin you must have. Yet in the process you created damn near an entire library of posts perfectly displaying a text book example of exactly what the OP was trying to discuss. Then you illustrate her point again perfectly when you decide it's okay to be all passive aggressive at the OP about needing psychological help  (read as you need to get help) and when it's pointed out that that's a dick move you immediately infer that it's you being called a dick. News flash it would have been a dick move for anyone who posted that. Based solely on the words you wrote before tacitly signing off with your back handed remark it's incredibly obvious that your comment reeked of insincerity. You wrote it so you should at least be man enough to own it.

As for breaking out hooked on phonics you may want to consult a dictionary as clearly you have no idea what the word phonics means in the context you used it. Feel free to keep right on the attack though you're revealing your true character more with every post.  Just an aside for you, even though the models may not be posting it doesn't mean they aren't reading what's been written so you may want to consider that when you decide to embark on your next ad hominem odyssey about them. Have a nice day, you're no longer worth my time.

Oh and if you can't recall those words in bold, they're out of your profile.

Le Chat, my apologies for jacking your thread. I'm done here, there's nothing else for me to say as apparently my next stop will be White Knight! 

On the rare occasion I start a thread, there is generally no such thing as thread jacking it, so no worries

That right there is a major reason why I felt like I couldn't stick up for myself in the forums... "professionalism". That word has been overused and often with the intent to keep people "well behaved".

Before I said eff it and decided to stop shooting as a photo model, I always was afraid of posting anything in the forums that was too outspoken, since it may hurt my chances of getting booked in the future.

Oddly enough, now that I've learned the word "no" and when I should say something vs. keeping quiet, I'm a lot happier and more confident of a person, and the wheat has been separated from the chaff in terms of people to work with.

le chat dort wrote:
http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/11/typ … istic-men/

That article was an unfortunate choice because it gave the impression that the matter was already decided and that the questions that followed were intended more as rhetorical flourishes than as requests for information.  Consequently, the responses that followed aimed mainly to push back against the article rather than consider the questions.

le chat dort wrote:
A few follow up questions:

Why do you feel the need to speak for (female) models, when a question is asked of them in this forum?

I think that a great many non-models do hold back when a question is directed at models.  Of those that jump right in, some may be doing so purely to feed their ego, but, having read a few of these threads, it seems to me that much  of what is offered is relevant and valuable, and, presumably, has been gleaned from conversations with many models.

le chat dort wrote:
http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/11/typ … istic-men/

A few follow up questions:

... Why are so many of the posts in this forum and the rest of MM to kvetch about female models?

The short answer is that people feel a need to complain about behaviours that they feel are inappropriate.  Being physically attractive can be a mixed blessing for women.  Attractive girls tend to get more favourable treatment, which often continues into womanhood and can lead to an overdeveloped sense of entitlement. Combined with the immaturity of youth, an overdeveloped sense of entitlement can lead to poor behaviour, some of which prompts some of the threads on MM.

A more comprehensive answer might have pointed out that there are also lots of threads on MM complaining about photographers not giving photographs as promised, problems caused by escorts, difficulties arising with the new system of verified credits, which lens or camera to buy, the advisability or otherwise of having tattoos,  and so on.  In other words, the frequency with which a topic arises is not necessarily a proxy indicator of underlying misogyny.

le chat dort wrote:
My aim was to start a much needed conversation,

Much needed about what?

What Fun Productions wrote:

Much needed about what?

Why some members may feel hesitant about participating in the forums.