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Julia A Campbell

Posts: 223

DEFUNIAK SPRINGS, Florida, US

Hi, I've been trying to play around with some photos but have noticed the calibration of my screen may be off as the images look very different from my computer to another. Currently, I have a dell inspiron laptop straight from being repair and reset by dell. Is there anyway I can fix this issue?

Jan 24 16 10:44 am Link

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Brooklyn Bridge Images

Posts: 13200

Brooklyn, New York, US

Webinar on screen calibration from X-rite
http://xritephoto.com/ph_learning.aspx? … binar_2016

Jan 24 16 10:51 am Link

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GRMACK

Posts: 5436

Bakersfield, California, US

This is tough.  Color management is a whole big mess.

Even when I send some photo to several different labs they all have their own interpretations too and they all look different.  Send in for a reprint and it looks different than last one.  Different eyes I guess, but it is maddening!  Kodak, back in film era, had control strips that labs used for setting up a standard or reference, but digital is open to too many variables.  So I print myself now.

X-rite has a lot of good webinars that can get you close, but you have to get a tighter control over your work too.  You might have to invest in something like their "i1 Display Pro" and its software and make a profile for your Dell setup.  Dell has different ideas on what is right too.

I'd stay away from the Spyder calibrators which are cheaper. Imho.  They don't seem close to what you seek over x-rite's gear.  I have 2-3 Spyders, but they are all now retired having use the x-rite stuff.  See this where the guy uses a JETI radiometer to determine which is better: x-rite or Spyder (Fwiw, The Spyder 5 is much better then 3 or 4, but x-rite is still better:  http://forum.luminous-landscape.com/ind … c=107619.0

Good luck, but need to be aware that no two devices will agree.  Apple seems to be consumerzing their gear to play better with their phones than being geared towards pros from my last LA class.  Use a Retina and it will look different and more contrasty, colorful, etc. than what you see on a Windows machine.  Then we have 4K vs. 5K now too which helps in sharpness, but other things like shadow detail and even a color match go out the window.  Not to mention that some outputs from a computer to an external monitor may have restriction on the RGB space down to RGB=16-235 over what should be RGB=0-255.  Pictus on here mentioned that tidbit last week and I found it was still true on my Nvidia by default.  Thank you Nvidia!

And don't get me started with the new YCbCr444 protocols over RGB either coming out of a HDMI port to an external monitor either!

Good luck!

Jan 24 16 12:17 pm Link

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J O H N A L L A N

Posts: 12221

Los Angeles, California, US

Not positive (you should check), but I believe the Dell Inspirion notebooks just have an old TFT panel (as opposed to an IPS panel). They are difficult to calibrate and aren't really meant for photo work.

Jan 24 16 12:30 pm Link

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GRMACK

Posts: 5436

Bakersfield, California, US

John above may be right on your Dell screen.

It could be a generic sRGB screen and might reproduce 100% of that gamut too.  A bunch of this stuff differs when you get into images embedded with a ProPhoto or Adobe RGB gamut profile that is better suited to something made off a printer loaded with a bunch more colorful inks than what we see on the web with sRGB (or some web browser who defines its own color space.).

I've got my own issues with "What I think is right" on my sRGB notebook.  Then when I slide it over onto the other Eizo CG248 4K screen (Screen 2) in PS CS6, then it changes there too.  Maddening, and "Which is right, and which isn't?"

Then I get one of these "Why are you sending me these orange-skin models?" messages.  Ugh!  So really who is right?

Some pro labs only take JPG's in sRGB.  Compact, but not really the best image for a printer.

Jan 24 16 03:06 pm Link

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Julia A Campbell

Posts: 223

DEFUNIAK SPRINGS, Florida, US

J O H N  A L L A N wrote:
Not positive (you should check), but I believe the Dell Inspirion notebooks just have an old TFT panel (as opposed to an IPS panel). They are difficult to calibrate and aren't really meant for photo work.

Thank you, I think my best bet at this point will be to get my brother's desktop up and running. He had shelled out a pretty penny for a very nice Asus monitor... I might actually be able to connect it to my laptop...

Jan 30 16 09:11 am Link

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Julia A Campbell

Posts: 223

DEFUNIAK SPRINGS, Florida, US

GRMACK wrote:
This is tough.  Color management is a whole big mess.

Even when I send some photo to several different labs they all have their own interpretations too and they all look different.  Send in for a reprint and it looks different than last one.  Different eyes I guess, but it is maddening!  Kodak, back in film era, had control strips that labs used for setting up a standard or reference, but digital is open to too many variables.  So I print myself now.

X-rite has a lot of good webinars that can get you close, but you have to get a tighter control over your work too.  You might have to invest in something like their "i1 Display Pro" and its software and make a profile for your Dell setup.  Dell has different ideas on what is right too.

I'd stay away from the Spyder calibrators which are cheaper. Imho.  They don't seem close to what you seek over x-rite's gear.  I have 2-3 Spyders, but they are all now retired having use the x-rite stuff.  See this where the guy uses a JETI radiometer to determine which is better: x-rite or Spyder (Fwiw, The Spyder 5 is much better then 3 or 4, but x-rite is still better:  http://forum.luminous-landscape.com/ind … c=107619.0

Good luck, but need to be aware that no two devices will agree.  Apple seems to be consumerzing their gear to play better with their phones than being geared towards pros from my last LA class.  Use a Retina and it will look different and more contrasty, colorful, etc. than what you see on a Windows machine.  Then we have 4K vs. 5K now too which helps in sharpness, but other things like shadow detail and even a color match go out the window.  Not to mention that some outputs from a computer to an external monitor may have restriction on the RGB space down to RGB=16-235 over what should be RGB=0-255.  Pictus on here mentioned that tidbit last week and I found it was still true on my Nvidia by default.  Thank you Nvidia!

And don't get me started with the new YCbCr444 protocols over RGB either coming out of a HDMI port to an external monitor either!

Good luck!

Thank you! I will eventually (hopefully) figure this out but gee wiz this is a learning curve! smile

Jan 30 16 09:14 am Link

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GRMACK

Posts: 5436

Bakersfield, California, US

Julia A Campbell wrote:
Thank you! I will eventually (hopefully) figure this out but gee wiz this is a learning curve! smile

haha!

Even two competing softwares opened on the same screen side-by-side will look different even if opened in same sRGB color space which most all monitors should handle.  Even then, different Kelvin temps and tints too reported by all these various softwares too.  Maddening!  So who is really right?

You can get close, but exact is pot-luck at times.  Give it to someone else and they get back with: "What's with the orange skin?" - or Martian green skin in the case of my parents.  Ugh!

Jan 30 16 12:14 pm Link