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Is it legal to shoot a 17 year old model implied nude in California? Need help please! Her parents are okay with this but want to make sure there are no legal issues involved...I would like your advise...thanks! Oct 15 07 02:11 pm Link You're going to hear everything from "Are you effing whacked?! Don't do it! Its not worth it" to "Go for it!" I suggest you check w/ a lawyer in regards to your local statues. Oct 15 07 02:41 pm Link ...how fast can you run ? Ok, run like hell ! Oct 15 07 02:43 pm Link Victor M wrote: If I were a photographer I wouldnt even do it if it were legal.....toooo many liabilities.. Oct 15 07 02:43 pm Link Farenell Photography wrote: everything she said hun ..one shoot is not worth the trouble.. but wow her parents are cool with it ... nothing amazes me anymore ... Oct 15 07 02:44 pm Link Another one, popcorn, comfy seat, I love Monday's on Mayhem Oct 15 07 02:44 pm Link Wait til she is 18+... Oct 15 07 02:45 pm Link Oh deaaar..... Oct 15 07 02:45 pm Link Victor M wrote: Russian Roulette!!! Oct 15 07 02:46 pm Link Farenell Photography wrote: I'm going with that one on this issue.... Oct 15 07 02:46 pm Link Victor M wrote: That is probably a very risky proposal, one I would suggest you avoid. Tell her to come back on her 18th birthday. Oct 15 07 02:46 pm Link Victor M wrote: It is not legal to shoot an underage model implied in California. You must driver her to Nevada where it is fine. Have a nice shoot. Oct 15 07 02:46 pm Link Sometimes the question is not is this legal or not, but how much trouble is this likely to cause. Oct 15 07 02:47 pm Link As a compromise, tell her you can shoot her in a bikini/bathing suit. But thats about as nude as she can get, implied or otherwise. Oct 15 07 02:47 pm Link StevenDJ wrote: i will join you... Oct 15 07 02:48 pm Link Farenell Photography wrote: That's the only answer we need on this topic. Oct 15 07 02:49 pm Link Legal, yes...but not worth the trouble, even with parental consent. Oct 15 07 02:50 pm Link Ask a lawyer, not MM. Oct 15 07 02:52 pm Link The answer to your question is that it is generally legal to shoot implied nudes of a minor in California. Some of it has to do with pose since it is possible, at least under federal interpretation, to have a lascivious display of the genitals without nudity. For the record though, while California uses the exact same language as the feds, they are not bound by that decision. But that isn't the reason I am posting. If you are in So. Cal. and this is the model I think it is, I would turn and run very, very quickly. I have spoken to the girl and spoken to her parents. I got the lecture on how "comfortable their daughter was with her body." She submitted to a lingerie gig which was listed for 18+. Her dad told me that she could do any kind of lingerie she wanted to, so long as she wasn't nude. He went on to tell me about how she had just posed in sheers and implied nude for an underaged teen glamour site. Quite honestly, he was scary. He had no concept for any kind of limits other than she had to have something on or cover herself. Even full sheers over nude was fine with him. So, to answer your question, it is generally legal and I might even do it for an appropriate client. If this is the model I think it is, I wouldn't get near it for any sum of money. Oct 15 07 02:57 pm Link Ooooo... messy. Is she actually going to be nude in your presence, even if not on film? That's one thing that could get you into trouble all by itself. With the nature of implied nude there are ways to make her appear that way even if she's wearing a bikini or is otherwise scantily clad but it might still qualify as child pornography, parental consent or not. Even if you get an attorney that will tell you it's safe in HIS OPINION, all that means is that he thinks he could get you off if you do end up in legal trouble over it. Don't take any chances. Just wait til she's 18. Oct 15 07 02:59 pm Link Fotographia Fantastique wrote: amen on that one Oct 15 07 02:59 pm Link It depends......... Oct 15 07 03:00 pm Link Alan from Aavian Prod wrote: Every once in a while, when a post asks a question with "minor" in it, we get a thoughtful, reasonable response. Oct 15 07 03:06 pm Link Why not just sit in a bathtub and experiment with electricity? It would probably be safer. Oct 15 07 03:07 pm Link StevenDJ wrote: Ronnie Adar wrote: Can I sit in the middle? Oct 15 07 03:07 pm Link KATHY JEAN wrote: StevenDJ wrote: Can I sit in the middle? Monday's on Mayhem Oct 15 07 03:16 pm Link Its not worth it... even if it is allowed you need to be at least 18 to shoot full nudity anything, with that said, her being a minor, and im assuming your not, if your more then 4 years older you could be charged with child pornography, etc.. its not worth it. for all you know the parents might turn around and sue u afterwards, Oct 15 07 03:21 pm Link Yay, I get to say "I was here" on page one of what will go for another 160 pages.  Oct 15 07 03:37 pm Link I really appreciate your comments and opinions... I surely don't want to find myself in a situation like that (lawsuit and such) I love what I do so much and I was just curious about what other photogs are doing on regards this matter...thanks again everyone! -Victor M Oct 15 07 03:43 pm Link Good God Man! If you have your doubts shouldn't that be good enough? Not a good idea my friend and I would touch this with a.. um ten foot lense. Oct 15 07 03:45 pm Link Phuong-Anh wrote: WHAT?!!! My God I'm 39 and most the wonderful model's I've worked with are under 30 . . . Oct 15 07 03:48 pm Link The Rusty Horse wrote: Oct 15 07 03:48 pm Link Phuong-Anh wrote: Ummm....... False, you can in the united states shoot a under 18 model nude (with limitations) Oct 15 07 03:50 pm Link Victor M wrote: Law suits are the least of the problems that this can cause. If you are charged with a crime, which is very possible, you will face arrest and legal fees defending yourself from something that was basically innocent. It is not worth it, IMHO. I strongly suggest that you wait until the model is at least 18. AND, make sure that she has a photo ID indicating her age. Oct 15 07 03:50 pm Link if i where you i'd just wait till she turns 18. even if it is legal in Cali. it may freak people out. Oct 15 07 03:52 pm Link DONT DO IT Oct 15 07 03:55 pm Link StevenDJ wrote: make room for one more on the couch please? and pass the popcorn, these *Under 18* threads are so fun!! yummmmyy !! Oct 15 07 03:57 pm Link How about the other way an under age photographer that shots nudes. I heard of this the past weekend. Oct 15 07 04:03 pm Link Think about this if this whole situation is causing this much controversy in the forums then imagine what would happen in real life. Don't bother! Your in California there are beautful woman all over the place I'm sure you can find one of legal age. Oct 15 07 04:05 pm Link Victor M wrote: is it ok to light a match around dynamite? it might not go off..... Oct 15 07 04:09 pm Link |
