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DanielleK MUA
Posts: 270
Auckland, Auckland, New Zealand
(I'm hoping you guys may have a few tricks/tips I haven't yet thought of!) I'm doing a shoot in a couple weeks where the photographer wants a basic, clean, "pretty" look on one side of the model's face - easy enough! - but wants the other side to look dirty and oily. Not like sweaty, oily, but like actual crude oil type oily. It's a shoot to help promote environmental awareness and show how people are addicted to oil and pollution, but how ugly these things are. Any suggestions for what I can use to get a slick, oily, dirty look? I'm thinking maybe glycerin to get that shiny wet look... but any other suggestions are more than welcome. Thanks!
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Stephen Akers
Posts: 120
San Diego, California, US
You can try oil (olive, corn, sunflower, grape seed âI like grape seed oil best) mixed with chocolate syrup or dark molasses (mmmhh, chocolate syrup). Black and or brown food coloring in cooking oil could work too. Or, try the food coloring in the glycerin. Experiment to see what works best for you to get that dirty oily look. Will that help? Strangely, I'm hungry for pancakes now. : )
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Teresa Wylie
Posts: 3706
Livingston, Scotland, United Kingdom
Maybe Black food coloring & the glycerin or gel? www.karenscookies.net Edit: someone beat me to it on the food coloring lol
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ward
Posts: 6142
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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MEK Photography
Posts: 6571
Westminster, Maryland, US
go to an army supply store and get black and brown face paint.
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Teresa Wylie
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Livingston, Scotland, United Kingdom
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DanielleK MUA
Posts: 270
Auckland, Auckland, New Zealand
ward wrote: 10-W30 :-) lol! I doubt the model would be to happy with me when I walk in with a big tub of that and start pouring it on her face! I'm scared of using food colouring because it really dyes the skin. I know from baking and having randomly coloured hands for a few days after making coloured shortbreads. I'm also a little hesitant about molasses as I'm not sure how the model's skin would react to it. Will definitely look into face paint from an army supply store. Maybe with some glycerin overtop to get that sheen? Maybe oreo cookies crushes up for dirt chunks? (I'm getting hungry now too!) I plan on spending a good chunk of the weekend playing around with different ideas on my own face and seeing what I can come up with.
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Geary Enterprises
Posts: 663
Rochester, New York, US
DanielleK MUA wrote:
lol! I doubt the model would be to happy with me when I walk in with a big tub of that and start pouring it on her face! I'm scared of using food colouring because it really dyes the skin. I know from baking and having randomly coloured hands for a few days after making coloured shortbreads. I'm also a little hesitant about molasses as I'm not sure how the model's skin would react to it. Will definitely look into face paint from an army supply store. Maybe with some glycerin overtop to get that sheen? Maybe oreo cookies crushes up for dirt chunks? (I'm getting hungry now too!) I plan on spending a good chunk of the weekend playing around with different ideas on my own face and seeing what I can come up with. The answer your looking for is under the hood of an older car. I've done several greasy oily shoots with models and have always used the real thing, the key here is being sure that you have the appropriate stuff for clean up. Permatex makes a hand cleaner called Fast Orange available at most auto supply stores that is awesome, citrus based and all natural and does a great job of cleaning up. I also use Fast Orange after body paint projects. The models I've done these sort of shoots with did not mind the grease and grime and actually enjoyed getting dirty.
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Vanessa Collins Makeup
Posts: 40
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Why not a matte black loose pigment/eye shadow mixed with oil or glycerine? Then you dont have to worry about putting anything "weird" on the skin that might not really come off! Or kids face paints which are cheaper than army surplus face paint
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DanielleK MUA
Posts: 270
Auckland, Auckland, New Zealand
Geary Enterprises wrote: The answer your looking for is under the hood of an older car. I've done several greasy oily shoots with models and have always used the real thing, the key here is being sure that you have the appropriate stuff for clean up. Permatex makes a hand cleaner called Fast Orange available at most auto supply stores that is awesome, citrus based and all natural and does a great job of cleaning up. I also use Fast Orange after body paint projects. The models I've done these sort of shoots with did not mind the grease and grime and actually enjoyed getting dirty. Thanks! I wasn't sure how the model's skin would react to actual car oil being used, but if you have experience using it without issues, that's good to hear. I'll definitely look into Fast Orange and experiment with it on myself this weekend. Obviously I'll have to be very careful around the eyes and such... but it's definitely worth trying.
Vanessa Collins wrote: Why not a matte black loose pigment/eye shadow mixed with oil or glycerine? Then you dont have to worry about putting anything "weird" on the skin that might not really come off! Or kids face paints which are cheaper than army surplus face paint I'm definitely going to try the loose powder/pigment with glycerin as well. I don't know if it'll get the same look as oil (since oil has that kinda rainbow shine to it) but I'll play around and see what I can come up with. Thanks.
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ward
Posts: 6142
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
DanielleK MUA wrote:
lol! I doubt the model would be to happy with me when I walk in with a big tub of that and start pouring it on her face! If she's a model, she'll suck it up.
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DanielleK MUA
Posts: 270
Auckland, Auckland, New Zealand
ward wrote:
If she's a model, she'll suck it up. Touche!
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Geary Enterprises
Posts: 663
Rochester, New York, US
One more note on the Fast Orange, there are two types, one is a lotion base only, the other has pumice added. Avoid the pumice one on sensitve skin, it does work very well as an exfoliant though.
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Teresa Wylie
Posts: 3706
Livingston, Scotland, United Kingdom
Treacle would definatley work, dark kind.
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Diana
Posts: 2373
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
DanielleK MUA wrote: (I'm hoping you guys may have a few tricks/tips I haven't yet thought of!) I'm doing a shoot in a couple weeks where the photographer wants a basic, clean, "pretty" look on one side of the model's face - easy enough! - but wants the other side to look dirty and oily. Not like sweaty, oily, but like actual crude oil type oily. It's a shoot to help promote environmental awareness and show how people are addicted to oil and pollution, but how ugly these things are. Any suggestions for what I can use to get a slick, oily, dirty look? I'm thinking maybe glycerin to get that shiny wet look... but any other suggestions are more than welcome. Thanks! Baby oil gel works better than glycerin as it doesn't bead on the skin mixed with a dark red brown pigment. As always, it is better to test out several options in advance but honestly, I'd skip using the real thing. Sorry Ward, but models shouldn't have to 'suck up' something that could potentially cost them work.
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Vanessa Collins Makeup
Posts: 40
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Diana wrote:
Baby oil gel works better than glycerin as it doesn't bead on the skin mixed with a dark red brown pigment. As always, it is better to test out several options in advance but honestly, I'd skip using the real thing. Sorry Ward, but models shouldn't have to 'suck up' something that could potentially cost them work. Or their health!
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Christopher Daemon
Posts: 345
West Hazleton, Pennsylvania, US
I know I am not a MUA but.. At theatrical make up stores you can purchase a black setting powder. When mixed with the baby oil gel, it makes very convincing engine grease, and dry it is great for dirt smudges.
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ward
Posts: 6142
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Diana wrote: Sorry Ward, but models shouldn't have to 'suck up' something that could potentially cost them work. I'm gonna message you on this one, privately.
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