h i s wrote:
I know the OP tried her best .......... BUT.

BDSM fetish model???? Oh pleasssse...
I've barely been a member here for an entire month and still am not surprised that this subject has presented itself yet again.... already.  It's the most overrated and over done 'trend' on MM... and far too often, portrayed poorly at best, by far too many.

Regardless,
The thread title isn't for me, for starters. BDSM and fetish overlap for some.... but NOT for all. Not all embrace both by default.
For example, ... The topic is directed at subs and dommes...... and I'm not a submissive woman. I do not submit to anyone. And there is only one Man whom I obey. Those who know better, understand that there is a difference between the two. Point is, not all bottoms are subs and not all tops identify as dommes.
And for me, in our relationship.... He is not merely a dominant Man. He's SO much more than just that. Titles LIMIT. Our roles much like our imaginations and how we choose to live our lives are limitless.

To the point: He and i don't do titles.

Neither do we limit ourselves to fitting any one chategory or another.
When need be, for the sake of assisting others in understanding better who He and I are to each other, we sometimes compromise by offering the explaination of "Master and slave" and/or "Owner and property". I'm his (aka anything and everything He chooses)... to keep it simple. To say I am anything else to Him would only limit who and what I am.
We are not BDSM or fetish .....or Lord or Sir this or that.
BDSM and fetish are nothing more or less broad and vague descriptions for certain activities and indulgences of which we often participate.

Most importantly, I am not a model who has, on a whim, decided to include bondage on the menu.
I am a person who is very experienced in her day to day life ;)as the subject of bondage (to include but not limited to: disapline, obedience, and Sadism/masochism) who has decided to model. BIG difference there.
I am an absolute consensual slave ... to be exact. This should not be interpreted as something I 'play at' or limit to some pretend image I play while in the clubs, local scene or on the weekends. It's not just what I do to add spice and variety to my life. It's WHO i AM.

Nope, i'm not a BDSM fetish model.
I'm a woman who is owned, and who is often the subject of fetish acts and BDSM activities....... who happens to model, besides.


Titles... ick, blech.... yuck. Someone needs thier mouth washed out with soap (or thier fingers .. *shrugs*).

*Sighs*, do I really CARE if you've seen this topic before? I personally haven't, as I said. Big deal, I've seen about 5 or 6 "plus-size model" check in threads, it's just how it is on here so quit your belly-aching. So why hate on something that doesn't concern you? That's why I stated in the original post -if you would've bothered to read it thoroughly and not just the title, "NO FLAMING". What is so hard to understand about that? If you're not either or at least be nice about it, then don't post!! It's a waste of thread space, k?
   
    Another thing, I DON'T CARE if it's "obverdone". A LOT of things fall into that category. Girls on cars and motorcycles for example, even though it IS classic. I think pin-up is a little overdone, even though I'd like to do a few myself, and so is blatant nudity. Gonna flame about that? My point is, everyone's got an opinion, so why do you think your's is somehow more cultivated than mine? So go sit and spin, BDSM is not something I take lightly. It's a big part of who I am, therefor I WILL represent my proud Domme self in my pictures. Yes, I refer to myself as a Domme, boo-hoo-hoo. Labels are very handy I've found, and I'll continue to use them thanks. You don't like it, tough. That's all I've got to say to you

Laura McKenzie wrote:
I'm fairly vanila (at least that is what internet porn has told me ) but I like doing the "Fetish" theamed stuff. I'd consider myself more of a goth model then a fetish model. Anyways.. thats about it.

Fetish and goth, you can be both ya know. They're both very closely related. I myself am both. Uh-oh, I used a label, better run for cover before the anti-title trolls throw their dung at me!!

h i s wrote:
I know the OP tried her best .......... BUT.

BDSM fetish model???? Oh pleasssse...
I've barely been a member here for an entire month and still am not surprised that this subject has presented itself yet again.... already.  It's the most overrated and over done 'trend' on MM... and far too often, portrayed poorly at best, by far too many.

Regardless,
The thread title isn't for me, for starters. BDSM and fetish overlap for some.... but NOT for all. Not all embrace both by default.
For example, ... The topic is directed at subs and dommes...... and I'm not a submissive woman. I do not submit to anyone. And there is only one Man whom I obey. Those who know better, understand that there is a difference between the two. Point is, not all bottoms are subs and not all tops identify as dommes.
And for me, in our relationship.... He is not merely a dominant Man. He's SO much more than just that. Titles LIMIT. Our roles much like our imaginations and how we choose to live our lives are limitless.

To the point: He and i don't do titles.

Neither do we limit ourselves to fitting any one chategory or another.
When need be, for the sake of assisting others in understanding better who He and I are to each other, we sometimes compromise by offering the explaination of "Master and slave" and/or "Owner and property". I'm his (aka anything and everything He chooses)... to keep it simple. To say I am anything else to Him would only limit who and what I am.
We are not BDSM or fetish .....or Lord or Sir this or that.
BDSM and fetish are nothing more or less broad and vague descriptions for certain activities and indulgences of which we often participate.

Most importantly, I am not a model who has, on a whim, decided to include bondage on the menu.
I am a person who is very experienced in her day to day life ;)as the subject of bondage (to include but not limited to: disapline, obedience, and Sadism/masochism) who has decided to model. BIG difference there.
I am an absolute consensual slave ... to be exact. This should not be interpreted as something I 'play at' or limit to some pretend image I play while in the clubs, local scene or on the weekends. It's not just what I do to add spice and variety to my life. It's WHO i AM.

Nope, i'm not a BDSM fetish model.
I'm a woman who is owned, and who is often the subject of fetish acts and BDSM activities....... who happens to model, besides.


Titles... ick, blech.... yuck. Someone needs thier mouth washed out with soap (or thier fingers .. *shrugs*).

Umm, what is this woman's problem?  Why the need to be so combative?  This thread was not directed at her....sheesh.

jayedwards wrote:
Umm, what is this woman's problem?  Why the need to be so combative?  This thread was not directed at her....sheesh.

Agreed, my thoughts exactly. I think someone forgot to take their medication today!

Selina Kyle wrote:

Agreed, my thoughts exactly. I think someone forgot to take their medication today!

Well, I took my ''meds'' at Happy Hour earlier today....

Sanctus wrote:
Oh yea and "H I S"... I don't remember melodramatic prick tease in the description of invitation to the thread. 

Had your opinion been requested... then it might had been welcomed. 
  But as I see it, you might suggest to "H I M" to tighten that ball gag a bit... your mouth is leaking.

Whoa, and I thought I ripped her good!! Gotta hand it to you hon, that was wit at it's finest, kudos . She'd do best to take your advice, and thank you for the sweet comment, love your port as well. I enjoy bumping into other alt models with their own style, very refreshing . Congrats on your first fetish/bondage shoot too, I doubt it'll be your last

Sanctus wrote:
Oh yea and "H I S"... I don't remember melodramatic prick tease in the description of invitation to the thread. 

Had your opinion been requested... then it might had been welcomed. 
  But as I see it, you might suggest to "H I M" to tighten that ball gag a bit... your mouth is leaking.

So  spot on. The diatribe was so uncalled  for: if  she  was  'M I N E' she'd still be  counting the  cane  welts

h i s wrote:
I know the OP tried her best .......... BUT.

BDSM fetish model???? Oh pleasssse...
I've barely been a member here for an entire month and still am not surprised that this subject has presented itself yet again.... already.  It's the most overrated and over done 'trend' on MM... and far too often, portrayed poorly at best, by far too many.

Regardless,
The thread title isn't for me, for starters. BDSM and fetish overlap for some.... but NOT for all. Not all embrace both by default.
For example, ... The topic is directed at subs and dommes...... and I'm not a submissive woman. I do not submit to anyone. And there is only one Man whom I obey. Those who know better, understand that there is a difference between the two. Point is, not all bottoms are subs and not all tops identify as dommes.
And for me, in our relationship.... He is not merely a dominant Man. He's SO much more than just that. Titles LIMIT. Our roles much like our imaginations and how we choose to live our lives are limitless.

To the point: He and i don't do titles.

Neither do we limit ourselves to fitting any one chategory or another.
When need be, for the sake of assisting others in understanding better who He and I are to each other, we sometimes compromise by offering the explaination of "Master and slave" and/or "Owner and property". I'm his (aka anything and everything He chooses)... to keep it simple. To say I am anything else to Him would only limit who and what I am.
We are not BDSM or fetish .....or Lord or Sir this or that.
BDSM and fetish are nothing more or less broad and vague descriptions for certain activities and indulgences of which we often participate.

Most importantly, I am not a model who has, on a whim, decided to include bondage on the menu.
I am a person who is very experienced in her day to day life ;)as the subject of bondage (to include but not limited to: disapline, obedience, and Sadism/masochism) who has decided to model. BIG difference there.
I am an absolute consensual slave ... to be exact. This should not be interpreted as something I 'play at' or limit to some pretend image I play while in the clubs, local scene or on the weekends. It's not just what I do to add spice and variety to my life. It's WHO i AM.

Nope, i'm not a BDSM fetish model.
I'm a woman who is owned, and who is often the subject of fetish acts and BDSM activities....... who happens to model, besides.


Titles... ick, blech.... yuck. Someone needs thier mouth washed out with soap (or thier fingers .. *shrugs*).

Why did you even respond to this thread?
People who are not truly into BDSM will NEVER get it...
IM a life style domina for 20 yrs...and the thing that annoys me most are the judgmental, clueless people who should just learn to live and let live.
Models who "pose" fetish haven't a clue, run around in VS corsets and get offended when contacted for true fetish work.
Don't claim to be something you will never understand, its not about being "Goth", that's a totally die subculture.....period.

Cyndiemyst wrote:

Why did you even respond to this thread?
People who are not truly into BDSM will NEVER get it...
IM a life style domina for 20 yrs...and the thing that annoys me most are the judgmental, clueless people who should just learn to live and let live.
Models who "pose" fetish haven't a clue, run around in VS corsets and get offended when contacted for true fetish work.
Don't claim to be something you will never understand, its not about being "Goth", that's a totally die subculture.....period.

No one said fetish was about being goth. The OP said they could be related, and that is true. It's certainly not always the case, but it seems to be so more often than not on teh intarweb.

Selina Kyle wrote:

*Sighs*, do I really CARE if you've seen this topic before? I personally haven't, as I said. Big deal, I've seen about 5 or 6 "plus-size model" check in threads, it's just how it is on here so quit your belly-aching. So why hate on something that doesn't concern you? That's why I stated in the original post -if you would've bothered to read it thoroughly and not just the title, "NO FLAMING". What is so hard to understand about that? If you're not either or at least be nice about it, then don't post!! It's a waste of thread space, k?
   
    Another thing, I DON'T CARE if it's "obverdone". A LOT of things fall into that category. Girls on cars and motorcycles for example, even though it IS classic. I think pin-up is a little overdone, even though I'd like to do a few myself, and so is blatant nudity. Gonna flame about that? My point is, everyone's got an opinion, so why do you think your's is somehow more cultivated than mine? So go sit and spin, BDSM is not something I take lightly. It's a big part of who I am, therefor I WILL represent my proud Domme self in my pictures. Yes, I refer to myself as a Domme, boo-hoo-hoo. Labels are very handy I've found, and I'll continue to use them thanks. You don't like it, tough. That's all I've got to say to you

I'm usually pretty clear with my posts.  I don't suffer emotional surges over forum topics. Life is to serious to take so seriously. No one is telling you how you should believe or behave or use or not use labels. My post is simple an expression of how *I* identify with BDSM and fetish "activities". It's not a black and white subject nor is it one dimentional. There are many who participate in BDSM and fetishes who share the same views. My post offers a glimpse of a different perspective regarding the subject. You have misinterpreted, and assumed far too much regarding my post.


It makes little sense to state that you didn't 'care' and then take the time to write such a long winded reply.
It makes about as much sense as allowing yourself to be offended, and go on to flame another, because you *think* you've been flamed.  Just as one person is free to express an opinion, anyone else is free to post one which may oppose that opinion.  If a person knows that interacting with those of differing opinions causes them to feel so much anger, frustration and/or hate, rather than over reacting with charges of flaming, perhaps they may need to reconcider participating on public forums until they can get a handle on thier emotions??

I won't do the teeny-bopper ganster talk crap, or what you refer to as  'the hate'.
You could take your own advice on this point: If you don't get it, don't agree or don't like it.... likewise, YOU can skip over the post. I'll make it a point to skip over you and your's, if we must.

Based on your rant, I'm going to assume that you can't help it, and focus on the good, being that, one day you will most likely outgrow it.

Plainly put, here's the short version: Pot. Kettle. Black.
Peace.

A Vaughn wrote:

No one said fetish was about being goth. The OP said they could be related, and that is true. It's certainly not always the case, but it seems to be so more often than not on teh intarweb.

Its not related....not at all
Gothy kids think they know fetish and think one has something to do with the other...but no...it does not.
Goth is a music fashion...BDSM is a lifestyle...

Cyndiemyst wrote:
Why did you even respond to this thread?

Because it's here, it's a forum .. same general reasons anyone else who replies to any of the threads here.

Cyndiemyst wrote:
People who are not truly into BDSM will NEVER get it...
IM a life style domina for 20 yrs...and the thing that annoys me most are the judgmental, clueless people who should just learn to live and let live.
Models who "pose" fetish haven't a clue, run around in VS corsets and get offended when contacted for true fetish work.
Don't claim to be something you will never understand, its not about being "Goth", that's a totally die subculture.....period.

I means nothing to me whether you claim to have been doing what you do for 20 years or 20 days.

Regardless, neither my opinion nor my reply to you are affected. I agree with that. I've expressed the same with a different approach. I'm perplexed to read that you are confused by that. *shrugs*

Cyndiemyst wrote:
Why did you even respond to this thread?
People who are not truly into BDSM will NEVER get it...
IM a life style domina for 20 yrs...and the thing that annoys me most are the judgmental, clueless people who should just learn to live and let live.
Models who "pose" fetish haven't a clue, run around in VS corsets and get offended when contacted for true fetish work.
Don't claim to be something you will never understand, its not about being "Goth", that's a totally die subculture.....period.

Umm, modeling is kind of like acting.  I don't really expect that a model in a magazine actually owns the fancy jewelry they're selling, drives the fancy car in the TV ad, or really throws cheese of planes to teach parachute students.  For me, it's about the "look."

So, while I can see your point of view, I don't think the vitriol against models who "pose fetish" is really justified.  I'm not terribly concerned whether the model understands the lifestyle; I'd rather make sure they can deliver the "look" I want in the photo.  If they can sell the emotion or the feeling when posing, I couldn't care less if they were perfectly vanilla in real life.

Mr. Anthony

A Vaughn wrote:
No one said fetish was about being goth. The OP said they could be related, and that is true. It's certainly not always the case, but it seems to be so more often than not on teh intarweb.

Cyndiemyst wrote:
Its not related....not at all
Gothy kids think they know fetish and think one has something to do with the other...but no...it does not.
Goth is a music fashion...BDSM is a lifestyle...

BDSM is not the only fetish lifestyle out there.

Mr. Anthony

h i s wrote:

I'm usually pretty clear with my posts.  I don't suffer emotional surges over forum topics. Life is to serious to take so seriously. No one is telling you how you should believe or behave or use or not use labels. My post is simple an expression of how *I* identify with BDSM and fetish "activities". It's not a black and white subject nor is it one dimentional. There are many who participate in BDSM and fetishes who share the same views. My post offers a glimpse of a different perspective regarding the subject. You have misinterpreted, and assumed far too much regarding my post.


It makes little sense to state that you didn't 'care' and then take the time to write such a long winded reply.
It makes about as much sense as allowing yourself to be offended, and go on to flame another, because you *think* you've been flamed.  Just as one person is free to express an opinion, anyone else is free to post one which may oppose that opinion.  If a person knows that interacting with those of differing opinions causes them to feel so much anger, frustration and/or hate, rather than over reacting with charges of flaming, perhaps they may need to reconcider participating on public forums until they can get a handle on thier emotions??

I won't do the teeny-bopper ganster talk crap, or what you refer to as  'the hate'.
You could take your own advice on this point: If you don't get it, don't agree or don't like it.... likewise, YOU can skip over the post. I'll make it a point to skip over you and your's, if we must.

Based on your rant, I'm going to assume that you can't help it, and focus on the good, being that, one day you will most likely outgrow it.

Plainly put, here's the short version: Pot. Kettle. Black.
Peace.

Hmm, so let me get this straight... Because you have 20 years on me you feel I'm immature and full of "angst"? Hardly, might wanna go back and re-read those those responses. You didn't take the time to fully read my post, therefor I will return the favor and lightly skim over your's. Nor am I long winded, I think you have me beat there. I'm clearly not the only one who felt your reply was unnecessary, I believe my dear Sanctus said it best. You haven't the slightest clue to who I am, so don't make any assumptions. Case closed.

Mr Anthony wrote:
Umm, modeling is kind of like acting.
Mr. Anthony

I'd have to disagree with you there. I think it's important to have a style all your own and your own personality. Tell you what, usually makes the photographers job a lot easier. Trying to even come across as something you're not is just pointless, I like being myself in my shoots.