What's up with 16-year-old girls wanting to pose nude? What's the origin to this? I met a few asking me if I could photograph them and also heard stories from other artists and friends about this.
Michael Lujan
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Los Angeles, California, US
Gene Geter wrote: What's up with 16-year-old girls wanting to pose nude? What's the origin to this? I met a few asking me if I could photographing them and also heard stories from other artists and friends about this.
I hear you. That they wait until they're that old is an outrage!
Maybe they feel in thier prime and want to record it. It would be nice to have a good portrait or photo series to lok back on. But I imagine the just want it for some web site. If they get their parents permission and bring one, why not?
yes, i have turned them down as well, as most are undercover police officers,with just a small percentage actual young ladies that should indeed know better.Either way mention 16yrs all communication stops from there on in.
studio L
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San Francisco, California, US
Gene Geter wrote: What's up with 16-year-old girls wanting to pose nude? What's the origin to this? I met a few asking me if I could photographing them and also heard stories from other artists and friends about this.
Did they offer you help on using proper verb tenses?
DMP Studios wrote: yes, i have turned them down as well, as most are undercover police officers,with just a small percentage actual young ladies that should indeed know better.Either way mention 16yrs all communication stops from there on in.
Admiral Frog The Fist wielding The Hammer that's ready to pounce on those that live in the murky shadows of pestilentialness.
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Roswell, Georgia, US
You know what I find interesting is that you can find the human body cute/intersting from the ages of 0-4 years old, then you you have to have no opinion of it from 5-17, then from 18 years old on you can find it beautiful again.
Gene Geter wrote: What's up with 16-year-old girls wanting to pose nude? What's the origin to this? I met a few asking me if I could photographing them and also heard stories from other artists and friends about this.
Frog516 wrote: You know what I find interesting is that you can find the human body cute/intersting from the ages of 0-4 years old, then you you have to have no opinion of it from 5-17, then from 18 years old on you can find it beautiful again.
DMP Studios wrote: yes, i have turned them down as well, as most are undercover police officers,with just a small percentage actual young ladies that should indeed know better.Either way mention 16yrs all communication stops from there on in.
Sam Javor wrote: my guess is that the origin has something to do with a undercover police officer... but I'd be guessing.
SeriouslyFunny wrote: Ding ding ding! We have a winner!
I chuckle whenever I read that. Undercover officers will not contact you, pretend to be a teen and ask you to shoot them nude. Stop being so paranoid.
If they contact you, encourage you to shoot them and then pose in a fashion that is illegal, that is called entrapment. They cannot initiate the contact. To do so raises the issue of them encouraging you to do something you wouldn't have done on your own.
Instead, when they set up stings, they will go online, for example and wait for you to contact them. The will suggest nothing nor make any sexual remarks nor discuss doing nude shoots. When you suggest the shoot they will be evasive and let you affirm what you are wanting to do. They will get you to commit to doing something that would cross the line from legal to illegal and then get you to set up the characteristics of it so that you have definitely proposed something illegal. They will discuss props or something shoot specific so they can demonstrate that you are intending to go through with it, such as bringing bondage gear or condoms.
They will then arrange a time/place to shoot. When you arrive, they will search you to see if you brought the promised item. In the meantime, they have a written transcript of the entire proposition.
A case would never stand up if they went around contacting photographers and then asking them to shoot nude. You guys need to get a life. You spend so much time worrying about this kind of nonsense. You see police officers behind every door.
Turning down the shoot is the right thing because you don't need to be shooting any 16 year olds nude. But it isn't an undercover cop contacting you. Drink another beer and relax. It is all good.
Michael Lujan
Posts: 414
Los Angeles, California, US
Frog516 wrote: You know what I find interesting is that you can find the human body cute/intersting from the ages of 0-4 years old, then you you have to have no opinion of it from 5-17, then from 18 years old on you can find it beautiful again.
It just seems odd to me.
This point is implicit in much of Mann's and Sturges' work. So you're in great company.
Zori_K
Posts: 12
North Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Frog516 wrote: You know what I find interesting is that you can find the human body cute/intersting from the ages of 0-4 years old, then you you have to have no opinion of it from 5-17, then from 18 years old on you can find it beautiful again.
Also, it NOT likely to be an undercover cop. It's much more likely to be either an actual screwy kid or some sort of vigilante organziation along the lines of Perverted Justice.
Frog516 wrote: You know what I find interesting is that you can find the human body cute/intersting from the ages of 0-4 years old, then you you have to have no opinion of it from 5-17, then from 18 years old on you can find it beautiful again.
It just seems odd to me.
even 0-4 is getting dodgy,try photographing your OWN kids on the beach, at the football, in the park,most times an officer of the laaw will turn up asking is that your monkey? and what ur you doowen.
DMP Studios wrote: yes, i have turned them down as well, as most are undercover police officers,with just a small percentage actual young ladies that should indeed know better.Either way mention 16yrs all communication stops from there on in.
Sam Javor wrote: my guess is that the origin has something to do with a undercover police officer... but I'd be guessing.
I chuckle whenever I read that. Undercover officers will not contact you, pretend to be a teen and ask you to shoot them nude. Stop being so paranoid.
If they contact you, encourage you to shoot them and then pose in a fashion that is illegal, that is called entrapment. They cannot initiate the contact. To do so raises the issue of them encouraging you to do something you wouldn't have done on your own.
Instead, when they set up stings, they will go online, for example and wait for you to contact them. The will suggest nothing nor make any sexual remarks nor discuss doing nude shoots. When you suggest the shoot they will be evasive and let you affirm what you are wanting to do. They will get you to commit to doing something that would cross the line from legal to illegal and then get you to set up the characteristics of it so that you have definitely proposed something illegal. They will discuss props or something shoot specific so they can demonstrate that you are intending to go through with it, such as bringing bondage gear or condoms.
They will then arrange a time/place to shoot. When you arrive, they will search you to see if you brought the promised item. In the meantime, they have a written transcript of the entire proposition.
A case would never stand up if they went around contacting photographers and then asking them to shoot nude. You guys need to get a life. You spend so much time worrying about this kind of nonsense. You see police officers behind every door.
Turning down the shoot is the right thing because you don't need to be shooting any 16 year olds nude. But it isn't an undercover cop contacting you. Drink another beer and relax. It is all good.
I see these threads, read through all the fear mongoring and hope to see you here Alan, because you spell it out much more then me.
But here is another source people. I am law enforcement, we do not, nor could we contact people to ask them to do something in hopes of busting them(on something that isn't illegal). Chris Hanson does it with Law enforcement, by letting the pre-verts contact him(or his people) in chat rooms, trust me lawyers go over what he does with fine tooth combs.
Don't forget the almighty internet and its contribution to visuals and who has access to it. During teens, teens are still developing a sense of self, so they see stuff and they want to emulate/imitate it, kinda sad.
But like someone mentioned earlier, girls like Paris aren't helping much.
DMP Studios wrote: yes, i have turned them down as well, as most are undercover police officers,with just a small percentage actual young ladies that should indeed know better.Either way mention 16yrs all communication stops from there on in.
I chuckle whenever I read that. Undercover officers will not contact you, pretend to be a teen and ask you to shoot them nude. Stop being so paranoid.
If they contact you, encourage you to shoot them and then pose in a fashion that is illegal, that is called entrapment. They cannot initiate the contact. To do so raises the issue of them encouraging you to do something you wouldn't have done on your own.
Instead, when they set up stings, they will go online, for example and wait for you to contact them. The will suggest nothing nor make any sexual remarks nor discuss doing nude shoots. When you suggest the shoot they will be evasive and let you affirm what you are wanting to do. They will get you to commit to doing something that would cross the line from legal to illegal and then get you to set up the characteristics of it so that you have definitely proposed something illegal. They will discuss props or something shoot specific so they can demonstrate that you are intending to go through with it, such as bringing bondage gear or condoms.
They will then arrange a time/place to shoot. When you arrive, they will search you to see if you brought the promised item. In the meantime, they have a written transcript of the entire proposition.
A case would never stand up if they went around contacting photographers and then asking them to shoot nude. You guys need to get a life. You spend so much time worrying about this kind of nonsense. You see police officers behind every door.
Turning down the shoot is the right thing because you don't need to be shooting any 16 year olds nude. But it isn't an undercover cop contacting you. Drink another beer and relax. It is all good.
ohh yes they fkn will dude, WOULD YOU LIKE A LIST?.
Alan from Aavian Prod wrote: Turning down the shoot is the right thing because you don't need to be shooting any 16 year olds nude. But it isn't an undercover cop contacting you. Drink another beer and relax. It is all good.
Gene Geter wrote: What's up with 16-year-old girls wanting to pose nude? What's the origin to this? I met a few asking me if I could photographing them and also heard stories from other artists and friends about this.
I think they think its a fast way into the industry?! As if posing nude would open more doors to them...only doors it would open is to predators!
DMP Studios wrote: yes, i have turned them down as well, as most are undercover police officers,with just a small percentage actual young ladies that should indeed know better.Either way mention 16yrs all communication stops from there on in.
Sam Javor wrote: my guess is that the origin has something to do with a undercover police officer... but I'd be guessing.
I chuckle whenever I read that. Undercover officers will not contact you, pretend to be a teen and ask you to shoot them nude. Stop being so paranoid.
If they contact you, encourage you to shoot them and then pose in a fashion that is illegal, that is called entrapment. They cannot initiate the contact. To do so raises the issue of them encouraging you to do something you wouldn't have done on your own.
Instead, when they set up stings, they will go online, for example and wait for you to contact them. The will suggest nothing nor make any sexual remarks nor discuss doing nude shoots. When you suggest the shoot they will be evasive and let you affirm what you are wanting to do. They will get you to commit to doing something that would cross the line from legal to illegal and then get you to set up the characteristics of it so that you have definitely proposed something illegal. They will discuss props or something shoot specific so they can demonstrate that you are intending to go through with it, such as bringing bondage gear or condoms.
They will then arrange a time/place to shoot. When you arrive, they will search you to see if you brought the promised item. In the meantime, they have a written transcript of the entire proposition.
A case would never stand up if they went around contacting photographers and then asking them to shoot nude. You guys need to get a life. You spend so much time worrying about this kind of nonsense. You see police officers behind every door.
Turning down the shoot is the right thing because you don't need to be shooting any 16 year olds nude. But it isn't an undercover cop contacting you. Drink another beer and relax. It is all good.
This is absolutely correct! I watch my Law and Order..
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