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Matty272
Posts: 218
Dunfermline, Scotland, United Kingdom


Jojo West wrote:

That would be like the opening line to a great joke. smile

"A Scotsman and a Brit walk into a pub..."

Not to take this into politics, but........

If that idiot Salmond gets his way, this will be true!

Dec 23 12 02:34 am  Link  Quote 
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Matty272
Posts: 218
Dunfermline, Scotland, United Kingdom


P.S. Bump!
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Model
Olivia Cheyenna
Posts: 1
New York, New York, US


A  M E N.
Jan 07 13 06:25 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Buh bye
Posts: 14
Lowell, Massachusetts, US


I stumbled upon this thread after dealing with the same issue. A family member I barely speak to had the gall to tell me that my modelling is not appropriate (I wasn't nude hmm I was in a bikini top with shorts) and went off on me. Told me that 'HER' family wouldn't approve of my work and that I need to take it down. She than reported me to facebook for sexual violations.

Oyee..

So I guess now I'll have to watch out for HER family calling me a sleazy whore because I posted some of my latest shoot on facebook. (And I KNOW they will. They've done it before hmm)
Jan 29 14 11:34 am  Link  Quote 
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R Byron Johnson
Posts: 767
Norman, Oklahoma, US


CAJPhoto wrote:
The wish list on your portfolio....uh, is this a common thing for models to do?

Yes, and why not?  If people were willing to buy me stuff, I'd do it too.

Jan 29 14 12:05 pm  Link  Quote 
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R Byron Johnson
Posts: 767
Norman, Oklahoma, US


Some people, particularly men, are still caught up in that outdated idea that only the one you love should ever see you naked.

Though photographers do sometimes face similar issues.  I'm newly single now and I always get nervous telling women I date about what I do out of concern for their reaction.  Like they'll think I'm just some perv who takes nekkid pics of chicks to whack off too or something.  For that reason, I try to date within artistic circles, because artists tend to get it more than the average person does.
Jan 29 14 12:10 pm  Link  Quote 
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Eleanor Rose
Posts: 2,241
Santa Rosa, California, US


I'd like to send a thank you and a big hug to the OP. I found this thread three or so years ago and it's a big contributor to my still being around here.
Jan 29 14 01:25 pm  Link  Quote 
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Patrick Walberg
Posts: 42,520
Salinas, California, US


Eleanor R wrote:
I'd like to send a thank you and a big hug to the OP. I found this thread three or so years ago and it's a big contributor to my still being around here.

Haahaa .. this certainly is one of those threads that keeps going and going!  I do think it is a very important message though.

Jan 29 14 03:17 pm  Link  Quote 
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Bravoscape
Posts: 259
Frederick, Maryland, US


Daniela Victoria wrote:
Nude modeling.
Glamour modeling.
Art modeling.
Showing any skin whatsoever....

Countless threads on "my family/boyfriend/husband/girlfriend doesn't approve and it hurts...what do I do?"

Has anyone ever thought to say to that person or those people that it's THEM disappointing YOU and not the other way around?

Why is it that people in our lives feel that it's simply perfect for them to tell us how we should conduct our modeling (i.e. nudes and not doing nudes) and it's not OK for us to be upset with them? Why do THEY get to be upset with US but we don't get to be upset and disappointed at how close minded they are?

Folks- if there is a person in your life, or people that say they can't handle your modeling (Esp. for you nude models out there) then express to them that you are hurt by that and move on. )Put it on them. Don't sit there and say "how do I handle this because my so-and-so doesn't approve", but instead say to that so-and-so that YOU don't approve of THEIR negativity toward modeling nude or just modeling in general.

I'm disappointed in those that are close to models and don't support them. I think it's bullshit. I think it's the models that should be upset and not their family or friends or significant others.

I'm just tired of these threads.

You don't approve of my modeling? I don't approve of you.
It's YOU disappointing ME.

Try that next time someone gives you crap. That doesn't work? Walk away.

/rant.

Well said.

Jan 29 14 06:41 pm  Link  Quote 
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NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 32,445
Los Angeles, California, US


Aug 03 14 04:42 pm  Link  Quote 
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DAVISICON
Posts: 389
San Antonio, Texas, US


Daniela Victoria wrote:
Nude modeling.
Glamour modeling.
Art modeling.
Showing any skin whatsoever....

Countless threads on "my family/boyfriend/husband/girlfriend doesn't approve and it hurts...what do I do?"

Has anyone ever thought to say to that person or those people that it's THEM disappointing YOU and not the other way around?

Why is it that people in our lives feel that it's simply perfect for them to tell us how we should conduct our modeling (i.e. nudes and not doing nudes) and it's not OK for us to be upset with them? Why do THEY get to be upset with US but we don't get to be upset and disappointed at how close minded they are?

Folks- if there is a person in your life, or people that say they can't handle your modeling (Esp. for you nude models out there) then express to them that you are hurt by that and move on. )Put it on them. Don't sit there and say "how do I handle this because my so-and-so doesn't approve", but instead say to that so-and-so that YOU don't approve of THEIR negativity toward modeling nude or just modeling in general.

I'm disappointed in those that are close to models and don't support them. I think it's bullshit. I think it's the models that should be upset and not their family or friends or significant others.

I'm just tired of these threads.

You don't approve of my modeling? I don't approve of you.
It's YOU disappointing ME.

Try that next time someone gives you crap. That doesn't work? Walk away.

/rant.
Bravoscape wrote:
Well said.

+1

Aug 03 14 04:51 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Locutus
Posts: 731
Rumford, Maine, US


Daniela Victoria wrote:
I'm disappointed in those that are close to models and don't support them.

I have friends, that do things, I disapprove of. It's part of life. people do things that annoy others.
If I do something people don't like, so be it.
Same with you or anyone else.
WE don't have to like/approve of what anyone does.
smile

Aug 03 14 05:25 pm  Link  Quote 
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NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 32,445
Los Angeles, California, US


Locutus wrote:
I have friends, that do things, I disapprove of. It's part of life. people do things that annoy others.
If I do something people don't like, so be it.
Same with you or anyone else.
WE don't have to like/approve of what anyone does.
smile

It's an old thread but she's already accepting that they disapprove. That's where this thread begins.

The turnaround is that while they think they occupy the moral high ground and are the only ones who get to do the disapproving she rains disapproval down onto them from even higher ground they didn't suspect existed.

Aug 03 14 05:51 pm  Link  Quote 
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Garry k
Posts: 26,903
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada


Great Thread , Nice to see it back
Aug 03 14 06:30 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Locutus
Posts: 731
Rumford, Maine, US


lol
Aug 09 14 05:58 am  Link  Quote 
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Natalia_Taffarel
Posts: 7,665
Buenos Aires, Buenos Aires, Argentina


NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:
It's an old thread but she's already accepting that they disapprove. That's where this thread begins.

The turnaround is that while they think they occupy the moral high ground and are the only ones who get to do the disapproving she rains disapproval down onto them from even higher ground they didn't suspect existed.

Im going to post in an old thread just because I disagree partly.

Is not always about moral grounds.
I wouldn't have a relationship with someone that I know frequents prostitutes, for example.
If I was told, I would explain that and leave them.

I wouldn't date someone who participated in creating violent images or glamour. (Not a model, not a photographer) it's not about moral high ground and its entirely personal, I reject being judged for it.
I wouldn't tried to convince someone to stop I would simply walk away.


But this concept that you have to approve what the people you love do, is ridiculous.

People you love can do things you don't approve of, that hardly makes you close minded.

Aug 09 14 06:13 am  Link  Quote 
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Marin Photography NYC
Posts: 7,011
New York, New York, US


Natalia_Taffarel wrote:
Im going to post in an old thread just because I disagree partly.

Is not always about moral grounds.
I wouldn't have a relationship with someone that I know frequents prostitutes, for example.
If I was told, I would explain that and leave them.

I wouldn't date someone who participated in creating violent images or glamour. (Not a model, not a photographer) it's not about moral high ground and its entirely personal, I reject being judged for it.
I wouldn't tried to convince someone to stop I would simply walk away.


But this concept that you have to approve what the people you love do, is ridiculous.

People you love can do things you don't approve of, that hardly makes you close minded.

I agree.

The larger issue is that as an adult, you don't need anyone's approval. Life isn't Facebook where you wait for people to "like" your stuff. You make yourself happy, don't worry about everyone else and what they think. What matters is how you feel about yourself. You are the master of your emotions and your own destiny, not them. Don't waste your energy fighting for approval.

Aug 09 14 06:44 am  Link  Quote 
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NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 32,445
Los Angeles, California, US


Natalia_Taffarel wrote:
I wouldn't date someone who participated in creating violent images or glamour. (Not a model, not a photographer) it's not about moral high ground and its entirely personal, I reject being judged for it.
I wouldn't tried to convince someone to stop I would simply walk away.

You can claim you are not making a moral judgment and reject assertions to the contrary but I don't buy it.

Aug 09 14 11:26 am  Link  Quote 
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Natalia_Taffarel
Posts: 7,665
Buenos Aires, Buenos Aires, Argentina


NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:

You can claim you are not making a moral judgment and reject assertions to the contrary but I don't buy it.

It's my opinion that a general morality is a ridiculous unsubstantiated concept to begin with so "moral higher ground" means nothing to me.

I could elaborate on the prostitution issue saying that I wouldn't see again a person who in an introduction makes an effort to make me aware of his material possessions.
It's not what I'm looking for.

As an individual you learn to recognize what you appreciate and what you don't. Getting judged because you disapprove what another person does and there for don't want o be associated with them is nonsensical.

Discrimination (without the negative connotation) is what survival is all about.

Aug 09 14 11:49 am  Link  Quote 
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Natalia_Taffarel
Posts: 7,665
Buenos Aires, Buenos Aires, Argentina


Marin Photography NYC wrote:

I agree.

The larger issue is that as an adult, you don't need anyone's approval. Life isn't Facebook where you wait for people to "like" your stuff. You make yourself happy, don't worry about everyone else and what they think. What matters is how you feel about yourself. You are the master of your emotions and your own destiny, not them. Don't waste your energy fighting for approval.

Pretty much, I never understood those threads.

It's very simple, if you enjoy something and the person you want to spend time with the most disapproves of that, you make a decision.
Do you like what you do more than the person ? You keep what you do.
Do you like the person more than what you do, you keep the person.

If the person disapproves of every other thing you do, you might want to think about it a bit longer.

Aug 09 14 11:53 am  Link  Quote 
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