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SME
Posts: 20,926
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US


I'm so fucking sick of that phrase.  Usually it's seen in conjunction with totally random and subjective qualifiers, such as, "Only girls who do fashion are REAL models."  Or, "You're only a REAL model if you make X amount of dollars" in which X is defined as some utterly random number, or "Only nude models are REAL models."

Guess what, kids?  If you model, you're a REAL model.

The old wrinkly lady who does denture ads is a REAL model.  The fat guy who sits for art classes is a REAL model.  Fashion models are REAL models. 

If you want to say something meaningful that actually narrows down the field, try "full-time" model, or maybe "paid" or "agency signed" or "published" or something else that actually describes what you're talking about.

"REAL" is about as meaningful as "edgy."

Barf!
Feb 20 08 03:07 pm  Link  Quote 
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Lora Weaver
Posts: 3,541
Alexandria, Virginia, US


YES!

Thanks, Sita. smile
Feb 20 08 03:08 pm  Link  Quote 
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reebound
Posts: 247
New York, New York, US


Sita Mae wrote:
I'm so fucking sick of that phrase.  Usually it's seen in conjunction with totally random and subjective qualifiers, such as, "Only girls who do fashion are REAL models."  Or, "You're only a REAL model if you make X amount of dollars" in which X is defined as some utterly random number, or "Only nude models are REAL models."

Guess what, kids?  If you model, you're a REAL model.

The old wrinkly lady who does denture ads is a REAL model.  The fat guy who sits for art classes is a REAL model.  Fashion models are REAL models. 

If you want to say something meaningful that actually narrows down the field, try "full-time" model, or maybe "paid" or "agency signed" or "published" or something else that actually describes what you're talking about.

"REAL" is about as meaningful as "edgy."

Barf!

Thank you.

Feb 20 08 03:09 pm  Link  Quote 
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Kristen Jeanne
Posts: 5,770
Pinardville, New Hampshire, US


Sita Mae wrote:
I'm so fucking sick of that phrase.  Usually it's seen in conjunction with totally random and subjective qualifiers, such as, "Only girls who do fashion are REAL models."  Or, "You're only a REAL model if you make X amount of dollars" in which X is defined as some utterly random number, or "Only nude models are REAL models."

Guess what, kids?  If you model, you're a REAL model.

The old wrinkly lady who does denture ads is a REAL model.  The fat guy who sits for art classes is a REAL model.  Fashion models are REAL models. 

If you want to say something meaningful that actually narrows down the field, try "full-time" model, or maybe "paid" or "agency signed" or "published" or something else that actually describes what you're talking about.

"REAL" is about as meaningful as "edgy."

Barf!

Feb 20 08 03:12 pm  Link  Quote 
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MarieUndone
Posts: 1,132
Hartselle, Alabama, US


you are so freakin cool!
Feb 20 08 03:17 pm  Link  Quote 
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Kristen LT
Posts: 3,564
New York, New York, US


Word, Sita Mae. So much word.
Feb 20 08 03:20 pm  Link  Quote 
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Elle
Posts: 16,457
Marshfield, Wisconsin, US


you know, sita...i think you're on to something wink

might i add, though...im real AND edgy lol tongue
if you've met me when im pms-ing, you already know that tongue
Feb 20 08 03:23 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ralph Corrigan
Posts: 226
Boca Raton, Florida, US


Its sorta like the ubiquitous GWC too, isn't it.
Feb 20 08 03:26 pm  Link  Quote 
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SME
Posts: 20,926
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, US


Ralph Corrigan wrote:
Its sorta like the ubiquitous GWC too, isn't it.

LOL!  There can be only ONE!

http://img2.modelmayhem.com/050622/09/42b973a5b7dcd_m.jpg

Feb 20 08 03:27 pm  Link  Quote 
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Chris Macan
Posts: 12,794
HAVERTOWN, Pennsylvania, US


So true......

But people like to have narrow little classifications.......
So they can look down on others,
and feel better about themselves.
Feb 20 08 03:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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Jade Noir
Posts: 7,629
San Antonio, Texas, US


Sita Mae wrote:
I'm so fucking sick of that phrase.  Usually it's seen in conjunction with totally random and subjective qualifiers, such as, "Only girls who do fashion are REAL models."  Or, "You're only a REAL model if you make X amount of dollars" in which X is defined as some utterly random number, or "Only nude models are REAL models."

Guess what, kids?  If you model, you're a REAL model.

The old wrinkly lady who does denture ads is a REAL model.  The fat guy who sits for art classes is a REAL model.  Fashion models are REAL models. 

If you want to say something meaningful that actually narrows down the field, try "full-time" model, or maybe "paid" or "agency signed" or "published" or something else that actually describes what you're talking about.

"REAL" is about as meaningful as "edgy."

Barf!

Beautifully said!!

Same goes for us photographers.

Feb 20 08 03:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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KATHY JEAN
Posts: 5,513
Pekin, Illinois, US


Sita Mae, thank you.
Feb 20 08 03:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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Kevin Connery
Posts: 16,803
El Segundo, California, US


Sita Mae wrote:
"REAL" is about as meaningful as "edgy."

Barf!

It's usually used as a subtle (or not so subtle!) putdown, too,, which makes it even worse.

Feb 20 08 03:52 pm  Link  Quote 
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-Nicole-
Posts: 19,184
Madison, Wisconsin, US


Sita Mae wrote:
I'm so fucking sick of that phrase.  Usually it's seen in conjunction with totally random and subjective qualifiers, such as, "Only girls who do fashion are REAL models."  Or, "You're only a REAL model if you make X amount of dollars" in which X is defined as some utterly random number, or "Only nude models are REAL models."

Guess what, kids?  If you model, you're a REAL model.

The old wrinkly lady who does denture ads is a REAL model.  The fat guy who sits for art classes is a REAL model.  Fashion models are REAL models. 

If you want to say something meaningful that actually narrows down the field, try "full-time" model, or maybe "paid" or "agency signed" or "published" or something else that actually describes what you're talking about.

"REAL" is about as meaningful as "edgy."

Barf!

QFMFT!!

Feb 20 08 03:54 pm  Link  Quote 
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J T I
Posts: 6,051
Heidelberg, Baden-W├╝rttemberg, Germany


Thanks!
Feb 20 08 03:55 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Kate Filialis
Posts: 188
Newmarket, New Hampshire, US


Sita Mae wrote:
I'm so fucking sick of that phrase.  Usually it's seen in conjunction with totally random and subjective qualifiers, such as, "Only girls who do fashion are REAL models."  Or, "You're only a REAL model if you make X amount of dollars" in which X is defined as some utterly random number, or "Only nude models are REAL models."

Guess what, kids?  If you model, you're a REAL model.

The old wrinkly lady who does denture ads is a REAL model.  The fat guy who sits for art classes is a REAL model.  Fashion models are REAL models. 

If you want to say something meaningful that actually narrows down the field, try "full-time" model, or maybe "paid" or "agency signed" or "published" or something else that actually describes what you're talking about.

"REAL" is about as meaningful as "edgy."

Barf!

Okay, I apologise in advance for being so flippant, because I actually liked what your initial post states, but. . . the REAL reason I'm responding is:  you said "Barf!"!!!  I haven't heard that since, like, third grade! 

(Otherwise, great post.  Thanks for standing up for all us little people.)

Feb 20 08 03:56 pm  Link  Quote 
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OP - Thank you!
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Jessalyn
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Denver, Colorado, US


barf x 2!!
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NC17
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Baltimore, Maryland, US


I'll drink to that!!
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Chicago, Illinois, US


smile at the OP. Thanks for this big_smile
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Cindil
Posts: 585
Phoenix, Arizona, US


Jessalyn wrote:
barf x 2!!

Would you like some mouth wash?

Feb 20 08 04:12 pm  Link  Quote 
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MelissaLynnette LaDiva
Posts: 50,816
Leawood, Kansas, US


I'm a faux model and I like it.  tongue
Feb 20 08 04:19 pm  Link  Quote 
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LaViolette
Posts: 9,865
Hollywood, Florida, US


Sita Mae wrote:
I'm so fucking sick of that phrase.  Usually it's seen in conjunction with totally random and subjective qualifiers, such as, "Only girls who do fashion are REAL models."  Or, "You're only a REAL model if you make X amount of dollars" in which X is defined as some utterly random number, or "Only nude models are REAL models."

Guess what, kids?  If you model, you're a REAL model.

The old wrinkly lady who does denture ads is a REAL model.  The fat guy who sits for art classes is a REAL model.  Fashion models are REAL models. 

If you want to say something meaningful that actually narrows down the field, try "full-time" model, or maybe "paid" or "agency signed" or "published" or something else that actually describes what you're talking about.

"REAL" is about as meaningful as "edgy."

Barf!

You go girl! This so needed to be said

Feb 20 08 04:26 pm  Link  Quote 
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Less Than Two
Posts: 23,401
Ann Arbor, Michigan, US


I'm not a "Real" model. I'm an "Art" model.

Bwa! tongue

Seriously though, I much agree.
Feb 20 08 04:28 pm  Link  Quote 
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Tattooed Beauty Queen
Posts: 330


Sita Mae wrote:
I'm so fucking sick of that phrase.  Usually it's seen in conjunction with totally random and subjective qualifiers, such as, "Only girls who do fashion are REAL models."  Or, "You're only a REAL model if you make X amount of dollars" in which X is defined as some utterly random number, or "Only nude models are REAL models."

Guess what, kids?  If you model, you're a REAL model.

The old wrinkly lady who does denture ads is a REAL model.  The fat guy who sits for art classes is a REAL model.  Fashion models are REAL models. 

If you want to say something meaningful that actually narrows down the field, try "full-time" model, or maybe "paid" or "agency signed" or "published" or something else that actually describes what you're talking about.

"REAL" is about as meaningful as "edgy."

Barf!

awesome!!

Feb 20 08 04:29 pm  Link  Quote 
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( ANT ) Mgaphoto
Posts: 4,980
San Diego, California, US


true that... same goes for actors!! not all look like brad pitt or are as funny as ben stiller but if you act then you are an actor!
Feb 20 08 04:30 pm  Link  Quote 
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K -- O
Posts: 1,635
Boonsboro, Maryland, US


That was such an edgy and real statement.

Well done!

smile
Feb 20 08 04:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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Elite Touch Studio
Posts: 694
Atlanta, Georgia, US


*Applause* smile
Feb 20 08 04:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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JRSFoto
Posts: 693
San Francisco, California, US


A Toast to the OP, finally someone who is keepin' it "Real"! tongue
Feb 20 08 04:34 pm  Link  Quote 
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NAIKE
Posts: 399
Knoxville, Illinois, US


Sita Mae wrote:
I'm so fucking sick of that phrase.  Usually it's seen in conjunction with totally random and subjective qualifiers, such as, "Only girls who do fashion are REAL models."  Or, "You're only a REAL model if you make X amount of dollars" in which X is defined as some utterly random number, or "Only nude models are REAL models."

Guess what, kids?  If you model, you're a REAL model.

The old wrinkly lady who does denture ads is a REAL model.  The fat guy who sits for art classes is a REAL model.  Fashion models are REAL models. 

If you want to say something meaningful that actually narrows down the field, try "full-time" model, or maybe "paid" or "agency signed" or "published" or something else that actually describes what you're talking about.

"REAL" is about as meaningful as "edgy."

Barf!

Thank you!

Feb 20 08 04:36 pm  Link  Quote 
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Christopher Hartman
Posts: 54,138
Buena Park, California, US


Sita Mae wrote:
I'm so fucking sick of that phrase.  Usually it's seen in conjunction with totally random and subjective qualifiers, such as, "Only girls who do fashion are REAL models."  Or, "You're only a REAL model if you make X amount of dollars" in which X is defined as some utterly random number, or "Only nude models are REAL models."

Guess what, kids?  If you model, you're a REAL model.

The old wrinkly lady who does denture ads is a REAL model.  The fat guy who sits for art classes is a REAL model.  Fashion models are REAL models. 

If you want to say something meaningful that actually narrows down the field, try "full-time" model, or maybe "paid" or "agency signed" or "published" or something else that actually describes what you're talking about.

"REAL" is about as meaningful as "edgy."

Barf!

Kind of like "real" actors.  The truth is, anyone acting is a "real" actor.  Some of them are really good, most are average, and many suck.

Same with models.  If you're the subject of a photo session, you're a model. I say session because if some guy comes up and takes your picture seemingly at random, you're not really modeling.  You're just a subject in that moment.  But if you're doing this and that and that during a series of photos, you're modeling.

However, what kind of model you are varies.

You suck
You're average
You've got potential
You're pretty good
You fucking rock the house

I'm sure people can add to the list.  They are ALL real models.

I agree with Sita.

Feb 20 08 04:44 pm  Link  Quote 
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RSM-images
Posts: 4,226
Jacksonville, Florida, US


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"REAL" models ... don't eat grits....   neutral

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Feb 20 08 04:56 pm  Link  Quote 
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Kincaid Blackwood
Posts: 23,352
Atlanta, Georgia, US


Go, Sita!  Go!
Feb 20 08 05:02 pm  Link  Quote 
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Shon D.- Femme
Posts: 24,369
Virginia Beach, Virginia, US


You go, girl!
Feb 20 08 05:03 pm  Link  Quote 
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Tia
Posts: 7,932
Honolulu, Hawaii, US


Best damn thread I've read in a long time big_smile.
Feb 20 08 05:06 pm  Link  Quote 
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Kaeti
Posts: 3,435
Olympia, Washington, US


Hahaha!  I saw the title and I was like, "oh GOD, not again!!"

And then I saw that you posted it and knew it was worth a look.

Thaaaank you.

- A totally artificial model
Feb 20 08 05:37 pm  Link  Quote 
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GCobb Photography
Posts: 15,891
Southaven, Mississippi, US


Sita Mae wrote:
I'm so fucking sick of that phrase.  Usually it's seen in conjunction with totally random and subjective qualifiers, such as, "Only girls who do fashion are REAL models."  Or, "You're only a REAL model if you make X amount of dollars" in which X is defined as some utterly random number, or "Only nude models are REAL models."

Guess what, kids?  If you model, you're a REAL model.

The old wrinkly lady who does denture ads is a REAL model.  The fat guy who sits for art classes is a REAL model.  Fashion models are REAL models. 

If you want to say something meaningful that actually narrows down the field, try "full-time" model, or maybe "paid" or "agency signed" or "published" or something else that actually describes what you're talking about.

"REAL" is about as meaningful as "edgy."

Barf!

I agree, and by those words alone it looks condescending to those who someone thinks isn't "real".

Feb 20 08 05:40 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
'Monk
Posts: 1,779
Denver, Colorado, US


Sita Mae wrote:
I'm so fucking sick of that phrase.  Usually it's seen in conjunction with totally random and subjective qualifiers, such as, "Only girls who do fashion are REAL models."  Or, "You're only a REAL model if you make X amount of dollars" in which X is defined as some utterly random number, or "Only nude models are REAL models."

Guess what, kids?  If you model, you're a REAL model.

The old wrinkly lady who does denture ads is a REAL model.  The fat guy who sits for art classes is a REAL model.  Fashion models are REAL models. 

If you want to say something meaningful that actually narrows down the field, try "full-time" model, or maybe "paid" or "agency signed" or "published" or something else that actually describes what you're talking about.

"REAL" is about as meaningful as "edgy."

Barf!

Damn straight! big_smile

Feb 20 08 05:42 pm  Link  Quote 
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Karen D
Posts: 52
Missoula, Montana, US


I Totally Agree!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for Putting That Out There, You Got a Way with Words smile
Feb 20 08 05:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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