Forums > Photography Talk > Tips for shooting on an overcast,misty gray day?

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Photocyco2000

Posts: 1074

Sussex, New Jersey, US

I'm doing a late afternoon photoshoot today and the weather sucks. It is misty,overcast ,gray and chilly.What tips,suggestions and Recipes(camera settings) do you have for this type of day? I'm going to be using my 50mm 1.8 and my 28-135 3.5-5.6 IS. I figure the IS will be better for lower light. I'll also be using my back up body,my main camera and lens I really don't like using in the moist conditions.

Mar 31 08 10:26 am Link

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fine art nudes by paul

Posts: 3296

Oakland, California, US

Photocyco2000 wrote:
I'm doing a late afternoon photoshoot today and the weather sucks. It is misty,overcast ,gray and chilly.What tips,suggestions and Recipes(camera settings) do you have for this type of day? I'm going to be using my 50mm 1.8 and my 28-135 3.5-5.6 IS. I figure the IS will be better for lower light. I'll also be using my back up body,my main camera and lens I really don't like using in the moist conditions.

perfect soft light.  yay for overcast.  mist/fog is cool to.

Mar 31 08 10:29 am Link

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J T Smith

Posts: 1688

Pittsfield, Illinois, US

Using the sky as a huge softbox which means your angle can be above the model. You can use mirrors for reflective light.

Just a couple of quick suggestions for you.

J T

Mar 31 08 10:31 am Link

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Monito -- Alan

Posts: 16524

Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Photocyco2000 wrote:
I'm doing a late afternoon photoshoot today and the weather sucks. It is misty,overcast ,gray and chilly.What tips,suggestions and Recipes(camera settings) do you have for this type of day? I'm going to be using my 50mm 1.8 and my 28-135 3.5-5.6 IS. I figure the IS will be better for lower light. I'll also be using my back up body,my main camera and lens I really don't like using in the moist conditions.

Misty won't affect your camera.  I've had both my cameras (neither is weather sealed 1-series) out in wet snow and fine wet drizzle and both were fine.  I took care to minimize wet time.

Use flash, especially if you have an off-camera flash cord, to liven up the light on the subject.  Just enough flash to boost a little, not overpower.

Mar 31 08 10:32 am Link

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Photocyco2000

Posts: 1074

Sussex, New Jersey, US

P3nudes wrote:

perfect soft light.  yay for overcast.  mist/fog is cool to.

But the sky always looks washed out in these shoots. Any cure for that pre photoshop,that can be fixed in camera? I hate changing the sky in photoshop,I'm not good at it and it always looks fake when I do it.

Mar 31 08 10:34 am Link

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Bil Brown

Posts: 2170

Los Angeles, California, US

I shoot in these conditions semi-regularly.

Take a few shots. Adjust. Keep things sharp. Bring a flashlight. Avoid on camera flash unless you have a solid, reflective subject (skin, reflector, etc). Get any available light (clouds, any bright area, behind the subject as much as possible.

You will do fine. Even at high ISO these shots usually rock.

Try Bracketing for washed out clouds. Shoot same scene (still model) x3 or more with a different exposure each. Then combine them as HDR in Photoshop... or layers, and mask.

Mar 31 08 10:37 am Link

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ArtistryImage

Posts: 3091

Washington, District of Columbia, US

In Photoshop put the image on another layer (Ctrl J) and choose Layer Blending Options, Select Multiply… You can use the opacity slider to dial in the exact amount needed to bring out the desired density in the sky (or use another duplicate layer to build more density).  Next use the History brush to bring back the non-sky area…  I believe you will find this exceeds your expectations on how to correct a washed out sky…

That said, this ambience is awesome for portraiture, and as previously noted with a hint of fill flash (I typically go 1.5EV under normal on the flash)…

My sincere best wishes for continued success on your journey…

Mar 31 08 10:45 am Link

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Eduardo Frances

Posts: 3227

Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain

Photocyco2000 wrote:
I'm doing a late afternoon photoshoot today and the weather sucks. It is misty,overcast ,gray and chilly.What tips,suggestions and Recipes(camera settings) do you have for this type of day? I'm going to be using my 50mm 1.8 and my 28-135 3.5-5.6 IS. I figure the IS will be better for lower light. I'll also be using my back up body,my main camera and lens I really don't like using in the moist conditions.

Overcast days are like having a big softbox for the sun big_smile, they give you a soft light! smile your 50mm f/1.8 could be better since light levels will be diminished and the wider aperture will allow you to use faster shutter speeds  but carry the 28-135mm in your bag smile just in case. While IS let's you hand hold at low shutter speeds it won't freeze motion from your subject so be careful there wink.

As for settings that's a hard one, light isn't a constant in every place where is overcast and you should meter accordingly to your needs -wide or narrow Depth of field?, as an example-.

Good luck!

Mar 31 08 10:47 am Link

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Eros Artist Photography

Posts: 1562

Solomons, Maryland, US

Photocyco2000 wrote:
But the sky always looks washed out in these shoots. Any cure for that pre photoshop,that can be fixed in camera? I hate changing the sky in photoshop,I'm not good at it and it always looks fake when I do it.

Composition, composition, composition -

Keep the sky out of your shots, if at all possible. If its not possible, minimize the amount of sky.

Mar 31 08 10:51 am Link

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Doug Jantz

Posts: 4025

Tulsa, Oklahoma, US

Photocyco2000 wrote:
I'm doing a late afternoon photoshoot today and the weather sucks. It is misty,overcast ,gray and chilly.What tips,suggestions and Recipes(camera settings) do you have for this type of day? I'm going to be using my 50mm 1.8 and my 28-135 3.5-5.6 IS. I figure the IS will be better for lower light. I'll also be using my back up body,my main camera and lens I really don't like using in the moist conditions.

I would rather shoot on an overcast day than sunny anytime.  Great because you don't have to worry about shadows and color saturation is better.

Mar 31 08 10:53 am Link

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Photo-op

Posts: 10256

Asbury Park, New Jersey, US

natures soft box

Mar 31 08 10:56 am Link

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J T Smith

Posts: 1688

Pittsfield, Illinois, US

Photocyco2000 wrote:
But the sky always looks washed out in these shoots. Any cure for that pre photoshop,that can be fixed in camera? I hate changing the sky in photoshop,I'm not good at it and it always looks fake when I do it.

You have to light your model. It's that simple. If you are exposing for the midtones and shadows you are going to wash out the sky.

If you choose flash as your main you can balance the sky out. The problem is blasting the light on your subject that doesn't equal or shooting for 1 stop more than the ambient overcast sky.

The problem with fill flash or using flash as your main is the balance between ambient light and the flash itself. This is where one will have problems with the light looking fake or forced.

Again unless your sky is more important, you can direct the subjects towards the sky and shoot at a much higher angle. Forcing the light to look down on your models per say. It really doesn't get any easier than that. Models don't always have to stand up and look right at the camera either. Just understand where the big soft light is coming from and stop forcing your subjects to have to look directly on camera and let the light fill features.

J T

Mar 31 08 10:56 am Link

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John Mathys

Posts: 138

Lee, Massachusetts, US

Set up near a bubbling stream, in front of traffic, anywhere else where there is noticable movement.  The dimmer conditions will be good for longer exposures.

Mar 31 08 11:15 am Link

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Photocyco2000

Posts: 1074

Sussex, New Jersey, US

John Mathys wrote:
Set up near a bubbling stream, in front of traffic, anywhere else where there is noticable movement.  The dimmer conditions will be good for longer exposures.

That's interesting,I didn't think of that aspect.

Mar 31 08 11:18 am Link

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K E E L I N G

Posts: 39894

Peoria, Illinois, US

Photocyco2000 wrote:

But the sky always looks washed out in these shoots. Any cure for that pre photoshop,that can be fixed in camera? I hate changing the sky in photoshop,I'm not good at it and it always looks fake when I do it.

Don't shoot the sky, shoot the model.  Fill the frame with her or her and the building or wall or statue or whatever is behind her.

Why do you need pictures of the sky?  smile

Mar 31 08 11:19 am Link

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NameChanged

Posts: 371

Kansas City, Missouri, US

Don't worry you will do OK.
Look at it is as on the job training.

Mar 31 08 11:25 am Link

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Sean SF

Posts: 537

Saratoga, California, US

This image was taken on a very overcast/cloudy day. The light was near perfect because of it. No special camera settings and photo is unedited.

https://modelmayhm-4.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080119/23/4792c851efd4b.jpg

Mar 31 08 11:29 am Link

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Jamie-JAYCE-Charles

Posts: 2207

Hollywood, Florida, US

=/

i dream of these days i live in south florida

we don't get them much

Mar 31 08 11:31 am Link

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K E E L I N G

Posts: 39894

Peoria, Illinois, US

Chris Keeling wrote:

Don't shoot the sky, shoot the model.  Fill the frame with her or her and the building or wall or statue or whatever is behind her.

Why do you need pictures of the sky?  smile

Example:

This was taken on an overcast rainy day

https://modelmayhm-8.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080109/21/4785872dccb38.jpg

Mar 31 08 11:33 am Link

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Womack Photo KCMO

Posts: 2348

Kansas City, Kansas, US

I tend to shoot landscapes/abandonments ONLY on gloomy days. The sun washes out most colors, and the shadows can be tough to work with. I think overcast days bring out true colors. AND no one squints!!! I LIVE for gloomy days!

Mar 31 08 11:34 am Link

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Photocyco2000

Posts: 1074

Sussex, New Jersey, US

Dennis Hodges wrote:
Don't worry you will do OK.
Look at it is as on the job training.

I've done them before,just not crazy about the results most of the time. Here is a pic from one such day (18+):         
https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … id=4621183

and so is this one:https://img8.modelmayhem.com/070611/20/466de8a7f040f_m.jpg

Mar 31 08 11:35 am Link

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dreslin photography

Posts: 1728

Pensacola, Florida, US

If you have gold reflector use it to warm the subject slightly this will help her stand out against the cooler background.

this was shot on a overcast day

https://img8.modelmayhem.com/070604/13/46644dbd5bcec_m.jpg

Mar 31 08 11:35 am Link

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Images by Douglas

Posts: 685

Mahomet, Illinois, US

Overcast is PERFECT conditions!! Won't have to worry about the model squinting or harsh shadows. As long as it isn't actually raining on you are too windy you should be fine! Have fun!!

Mar 31 08 11:39 am Link

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Click Hamilton

Posts: 36555

San Diego, California, US

Have fun!


https://www.pbase.com/image/94918712.jpg

https://www.pbase.com/schutze/image/94918710.jpg

Mar 31 08 11:39 am Link

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Sean SF

Posts: 537

Saratoga, California, US

Click Hamilton wrote:
https://www.pbase.com/schutze/image/94918710.jpg

wow, i love this one.

Mar 31 08 11:43 am Link

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Profile Closed

Posts: 5808

Niceville, Florida, US

P3nudes wrote:

perfect soft light.  yay for overcast.  mist/fog is cool to.

WORD...just point and shoot

Mar 31 08 11:51 am Link

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PDF IMAGES PHOTOGRAPHY

Posts: 4606

Jacksonville, Florida, US

Just curious, would ND filter help ?

Mar 31 08 12:00 pm Link

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Hamza

Posts: 7791

New York, New York, US

PDF IMAGES PHOTOGRAPHY wrote:
Just curious, would ND filter help ?

Fuck the ND, use a Polarizer...

Mar 31 08 05:43 pm Link

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Ed Hanson Photo

Posts: 1129

Spring, Texas, US

Bumping your contrast and saturation in levels/curves, helps give your images pop on an overcast day...

Mar 31 08 06:07 pm Link

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Miguel Book 1

Posts: 1473

Washington, District of Columbia, US

Photocyco2000 wrote:
I'm doing a late afternoon photoshoot today and the weather sucks. It is misty,overcast ,gray and chilly.What tips,suggestions and Recipes(camera settings) do you have for this type of day? I'm going to be using my 50mm 1.8 and my 28-135 3.5-5.6 IS. I figure the IS will be better for lower light. I'll also be using my back up body,my main camera and lens I really don't like using in the moist conditions.

Overcast days= Soft light= awesome portraits

The Best advice is try and experiment.
Nothing wrong with washout skys. If you are shooting a model why the sky is a priority?
For the reasons that many already told you, many of us love and prefer overcast days.

Mar 31 08 06:29 pm Link

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just RICH

Posts: 190

Sacramento, California, US

Photocyco2000 wrote:
I really don't like using in the moist conditions.

so was it more of a convenience thing due to the conditions or was it not sure how to shoot in it?  because the mist/fog and the overcast creates a large softbox like has been already stated.  what would you do with a giant softbox?

Mar 31 08 08:19 pm Link

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BlindMike

Posts: 9594

San Francisco, California, US

Use it.

https://www.blindmike.com/images/20070711023948_sascha07_full.jpg

https://www.blindmike.com/images/20070711024156_sascha08_full.jpg

Mar 31 08 08:22 pm Link

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Michael Bates

Posts: 1554

Austin, Texas, US

I LOVE shooting on cloudy/overcast days....oh yeah!!

https://modelmayhm-2.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080331/11/47f104ada3e37_m.jpg

Michael

Mar 31 08 08:22 pm Link

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LeDeux Art

Posts: 50123

San Ramon, California, US

Photocyco2000 wrote:

But the sky always looks washed out in these shoots. Any cure for that pre photoshop,that can be fixed in camera? I hate changing the sky in photoshop,I'm not good at it and it always looks fake when I do it.

the sun, that perfect soft box as a cloudy day is always called equates very pretty and safe, i prefer some sun to add some drama to the image but I like dramatic images

Mar 31 08 08:23 pm Link

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LeDeux Art

Posts: 50123

San Ramon, California, US

Click Hamilton wrote:
Have fun!



https://www.pbase.com/schutze/image/94918710.jpg

this is wonderful indeed and has an element of mystery to it, well done man

Mar 31 08 08:24 pm Link

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Daniel Garay

Posts: 1281

Los Angeles, California, US

BlindMike wrote:
Use it.

love these.

Mar 31 08 08:29 pm Link

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Photocyco2000

Posts: 1074

Sussex, New Jersey, US

logistics wrote:

so was it more of a convenience thing due to the conditions or was it not sure how to shoot in it?  because the mist/fog and the overcast creates a large softbox like has been already stated.  what would you do with a giant softbox?

I was refering to my main camera body and lens,I don't like using them in the rain due to the fact that the body isn't weather tight.So for the rainy days I use my backup body and also my less expensive lenses.

Mar 31 08 10:59 pm Link

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Lost Coast Photo

Posts: 2691

Ferndale, California, US

This puzzles me.

Overcast = good.  Nice soft light, no harsh shadows.  Why do some people think it's a problem?

I hate to shoot on bright sunny days.

As for poorly sealed camera bodies... you get what you pay for.

Mar 31 08 11:03 pm Link

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Kevin Connery

Posts: 17824

El Segundo, California, US

Lost Coast Photo wrote:
Overcast = good.  Nice soft light, no harsh shadows.  Why do some people think it's a problem?

I hate to shoot on bright sunny days.

Soft and directional is great. Completely overcast is usually almost (if not entirely) visually directionless. That makes a great fill, but doesn't do much for shaping.

On truly overcast days (not that I've seen many here!), adding a main light via a handheld flash off-camera adds enough contrast to keep things from being too bland.

Apr 01 08 12:26 am Link

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Coogan Photo

Posts: 821

Phoenix, Arizona, US

You can add a little back light or edge light, while using the available light as your main light -- adding a reflector will help to pop the eyes especially if it's a tight shot -- works great in open shade, just warm up the white balance (shoot in RAW regardless).

Apr 01 08 12:35 am Link