Forums > Photography Talk > How I do my "Water Dress" shots.

Artist/Painter

bijan studio

Posts: 1854

TARZANA, California, US

After getting so many emails asking how I do the water shots, I've finally decided to let everyone know how I did it.

I didn't want to reveal it at first but I feel that I have learned many techniques from some very talented people here so it's time I give something back.

If you don't know what the water dress shots are, check out my portfolio or the main image on my website.

So here it is:
1- You need to have a camera that can shoot 1/8000 s.
2- Pick up a location to do the water splashes. Back yard worked best for me. It MUST BE a sunny day. Overcast or partial cloudy won't work.
3- Get a large container that can hold water about 20" deep.
4- Pure water but leave the top 6" empty. VERY IMPORTANT.
5- Place the camera on tripod about 15 feet away. You don't want any water splashes on your camera or lens. Keep a towel close by.
6- Use a 200mm or longer lens on manual mode and manual focus.
7- Camera settings: Shutter speed: 1/8000 s, F8-F11, ISO 1000
8- Setup a 100% pure black (not dark gray) backdrop, 10 feet away behind the water bucket. The material must absorb light so it doesn't reflect any light.
9- Manual focus the lens to the front edge of the bucket.
10- Have an assistant grab a brick. Have her through the brick in the water in an angle so a wall of water comes out from the side of the bucket.
11- I assumed you were behind the camera shooting 3-5 frame per second when she did that. smile
12- Before you do anymore, download the shots to your computer  to see if you have got focus right.
13- Keep doing this till you have about at least 500-750 shots. Why so many? each water splash would be very unique and interesting shape. You need as many shapes you can get.
14- Give that towel to your assistant to dry herself. smile
15- On your computer, choose the best ones and adjust the levels so you have pure black background. You should now have pieces of a dress that you need to put together.
16- Open the image of your model, and drag the water shots as layers and set the layers to "Screen". Don't just use one splash. You can bring as many water splashes and piece them together; just like a puzzle.

That's it. Good luck.
And if you make one, show it here. I would lov eto see your results.

Feel free to ask any questions. And sorry for my English. Not my primary one.

Bijan
www.bijanstudio.com
Water shots:
https://modelmayhm-3.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080202/19/47a50a205797f_m.jpg
https://modelmayhm-3.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080201/23/47a3ec532879d_m.jpg
https://modelmayhm-3.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080211/14/47b09f11206ab_m.jpg

May 31 08 02:00 pm Link

Photographer

d30john

Posts: 1269

San Diego, California, US

Nice tip.  Thnx  Love the end results.

May 31 08 02:05 pm Link

Photographer

X-processed

Posts: 211

Outstanding. Thanks a lot for tutorial.

May 31 08 02:06 pm Link

Photographer

StephenEastwood

Posts: 19585

Great Neck, New York, US

very nice.  There is a video cgi program that makes some amazing water effects up to 5K file sizes, it works extremely well and lets you mold and shape and redesign on the fly the water as well as wrap it around objects, I found that when you bring an image into the program sideways you get near 13MP image size worth of file and can wrap the effect sideways, the system is more limited when there is only one still frame to work from, but can still produce amazing water effects.  Some of the designers worked on the Abyss.
http://www.realflow.com/te_videos.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4fSk5bc … re=related


Stephen Eastwood
http://www.StephenEastwood.com

May 31 08 02:07 pm Link

Photographer

C h a r l e s D

Posts: 9312

Los Angeles, California, US

Cool deal.  Thanks.

May 31 08 02:08 pm Link

Artist/Painter

bijan studio

Posts: 1854

TARZANA, California, US

StephenEastwood wrote:
very nice.  There is a video cgi program that makes some amazing water effects up to 5K file sizes, it works extremely well and lets you mold and shape and redesign on the fly the water as well as wrap it around objects, I found that when you bring an image into the program sideways you get near 13MP image size worth of file and can wrap the effect sideways, the system is more limited when there is only one still frame to work from, but can still produce amazing water effects.  Some of the designers worked on the Abyss.
http://www.realflow.com/te_videos.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4fSk5bc … re=related


Stephen Eastwood
http://www.StephenEastwood.com

Thanks.
Cool videos. It's a whole different world if one wants to get into the 3d animation.
A lot of cool stuff can be done.

May 31 08 02:17 pm Link

Photographer

StephenEastwood

Posts: 19585

Great Neck, New York, US

bijan studio wrote:

Thanks.
Cool videos. It's a whole different world if one wants to get into the 3d animation.
A lot of cool stuff can be done.

yes, the technology that has been around for years makes us still guys feel like dinosaurs, they have been doing things we have not even thought of yet for years, Now that I am in commercials, all my brilliant new groundbreaking ideas are like, Oh yea, we did that last year  hmm

Stephen Eastwood
http://www.StephenEastwood.com

May 31 08 02:20 pm Link

Photographer

g e r m a i n

Posts: 470

Richardson, Texas, US

Most excellent!

Thanks for sharing!

May 31 08 02:29 pm Link

Photographer

Art Film Cameras

Posts: 701

Poland, Maine, US

Thanks for sharing.  That stuff looks really cool.   One of these days I'll actually get a DSLR and incorporate advice like this.

May 31 08 02:36 pm Link

Photographer

Images by Yancy

Posts: 1703

Roseville, California, US

Thanks for sharing, Bijan. Very generous of you!

May 31 08 02:39 pm Link

Photographer

Russell Tracy Photo

Posts: 1026

Virginia Beach, Virginia, US

Thats awesome. Thanks for the tip. I will have to try that some day when I have the time.

May 31 08 03:01 pm Link

Artist/Painter

bijan studio

Posts: 1854

TARZANA, California, US

Thanks guys.
Don't forget to post your results here.

May 31 08 03:06 pm Link

Photographer

Caity B

Posts: 2977

Bangor, Maine, US

Very cool of you to share, Bijan! I've been wondering about that for a while now!

May 31 08 03:08 pm Link

Photographer

robert christopher

Posts: 2706

Snohomish, Washington, US

bijan, thanks so much, i have envied your images for a long time, i may just try and do one, but i live in seattle sunny days are few and far between.

May 31 08 07:31 pm Link

Photographer

Fusion Imagery

Posts: 525

Centerville, Ohio, US

Thanks for posting this. I think you just gave me my next project.

May 31 08 07:38 pm Link

Photographer

Julian Marsalis

Posts: 1191

Austin, Texas, US

Now that sounds like some fun work. Been trying to do it with some Bert Monroy tutorials on creating realistic water in ps....

May 31 08 08:05 pm Link

Photographer

PDF IMAGES PHOTOGRAPHY

Posts: 4606

Jacksonville, Florida, US

thanks for sharing your knowledge with us smile very cool works !

May 31 08 08:09 pm Link

Photographer

Ed Hanson Photo

Posts: 1129

Spring, Texas, US

Thanks for your generosity, and giving me something else to shoot when I'm not shooting a model!

May 31 08 08:44 pm Link

Model

Iona Lynn

Posts: 11176

Oakland, California, US

bijan studio wrote:
10- Have an assistant grab a brick. Have her through the brick in the water in an angle so a wall of water comes out from the side of the bucket.

14- Give that towel to your assistant to dry herself. smile

That was my best job evar!!!!

May 31 08 08:50 pm Link

Photographer

IrisSwope

Posts: 14857

Dallas, Texas, US

I would think many many people would rip this off, but I don't think it can be done very successfully.

May 31 08 08:52 pm Link

Artist/Painter

bijan studio

Posts: 1854

TARZANA, California, US

Iona Lynn wrote:
That was my best job evar!!!!

Oh yes, Thanks to Iona who helped me throw the brick into the water. smile haha
Oh and she shot some of the splashes too.

May 31 08 08:53 pm Link

Photographer

Ed Hanson Photo

Posts: 1129

Spring, Texas, US

IrisSwope wrote:
I would think many many people would rip this off, but I don't think it can be done very successfully.

I plan on doing this, primarily for the PS experience, for which is a weekness of mine I feel.
Not looking to make it a staple image style of mine, just a learning experience.
...and to shoot more women nekkid! JK LOL

May 31 08 09:16 pm Link

Photographer

J T I

Posts: 6051

San Diego, California, US

bijan studio wrote:
I didn't want to reveal it at first but I feel that I have learned many techniques from some very talented people here so it's time I give something back.

Thanks Bijan for sharing.  I enjoyed reading your technique.  However, the above sentence you can now rest assured I will never try.  In other words, I was much more likely to try this until I saw everything you did to do it.  Now I know I won't.  So no ripping you off by me...

LOL - Best,
Jason
P.S. Yes, as Stephen says, if I had tried to do this - I would have gone straight into the animation software and effects side.  I would never have guessed your technique.

May 31 08 09:31 pm Link

Artist/Painter

bijan studio

Posts: 1854

TARZANA, California, US

jtiphotographer wrote:

Thanks Bijan for sharing.  I enjoyed reading your technique.  However, the above sentence you can now rest assured I will never try.  In other words, I was much more likely to try this until I saw everything you did to do it.  Now I know I won't.  So no ripping you off by me...

LOL - Best,
Jason
P.S. Yes, as Stephen says, if I had tried to do this - I would have gone straight into the animation software and effects side.  I would never have guessed your technique.

LOL, I am not worried. I know where to find you. smile

I am just getting into the world of 3D. Maybe I would've done it differently back then.

May 31 08 09:56 pm Link

Photographer

B Browder Photo

Posts: 14635

Charleston, South Carolina, US

Very cool, someone posted a question a few weeks ago asking "how did they do that"  It was a model in a studio shot and her dress was actually water or was created from water to look like a dress.  This reminds me of that thread.

May 31 08 10:59 pm Link

Artist/Painter

bijan studio

Posts: 1854

TARZANA, California, US

Bernie Browder  wrote:
Very cool, someone posted a question a few weeks ago asking "how did they do that"  It was a model in a studio shot and her dress was actually water or was created from water to look like a dress.  This reminds me of that thread.

Never saw the thread. Can' find it either.

Jun 01 08 01:07 am Link

Photographer

B Browder Photo

Posts: 14635

Charleston, South Carolina, US

bijan studio wrote:
Never saw the thread. Can' find it either.

You know what, I was a little off it was a question about a shot of Gisele Bundchen's water dress

Link is on this thread https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thre … 8234&page=

Although I just saw it, and that thread is old.

You probably have already seen it.

Jun 01 08 01:32 am Link

Model

Emily Alsdorf

Posts: 430

Castrillón, Asturias, Spain

I'm actually doing a Water Dress concept this month with a photographer.

Jun 01 08 01:39 am Link

Photographer

KGToops Photography

Posts: 2439

Treasure Island, Florida, US

shocked you gave that away

thanks

Jun 01 08 01:45 am Link

Artist/Painter

bijan studio

Posts: 1854

TARZANA, California, US

Bernie Browder  wrote:

You know what, I was a little off it was a question about a shot of Gisele Bundchen's water dress

Although I just saw it, and that thread is old.

You probably have already seen it.

Thanks. No I hadn't seen it.

Jun 01 08 01:49 am Link

Photographer

Alex Minkin

Posts: 675

Birmingham, Michigan, US

get ready for dozens of ports filled with these images.

very cool technique, im glad you shared, and i'll definitely try to bring something new to this

Jun 01 08 01:52 am Link

Artist/Painter

bijan studio

Posts: 1854

TARZANA, California, US

KGToops Photography wrote:
shocked you gave that away

thanks

I got new stuff coming up soon. smile

Jun 01 08 01:52 am Link

Photographer

B Browder Photo

Posts: 14635

Charleston, South Carolina, US

bijan studio wrote:

Thanks. No I hadn't seen it.

All those technical terms being thrown around in that thread and your technique is fairly close and seems much easier.  LOL  But it still takes talent, very beautiful work you did.

Jun 01 08 01:53 am Link

Photographer

tosk

Posts: 227

Great you gave us these secrets.
Sure one day i'll try
Thank you very much!!!!

Jun 01 08 05:23 am Link

Photographer

Meg Photo

Posts: 246

Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain

Thank you very much for the tip, you are a genious!!! smile

Jun 25 09 08:48 pm Link

Photographer

Timeless Photoworks

Posts: 77

Houston, Texas, US

Thanks for the tip. I'd be curious to see if I can pull this off!

Jun 25 09 11:44 pm Link

Photographer

Dannielle Levan

Posts: 12865

New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada

Timeless Photoworks wrote:
Thanks for the tip. I'd be curious to see if I can pull this off!

Likewise!

Jun 26 09 01:51 am Link

Model

Cheeky Elf

Posts: 156

Auckland, Auckland, New Zealand

Thank you for sharing. Your work is gorgeous.

Jun 26 09 01:59 am Link

Photographer

POISEphotography

Posts: 69

Perth, Western Australia, Australia

Wow thank you, it is very kind of you to share this! Your work is amazing and beautiful! xoxo

Jun 26 09 02:05 am Link

Photographer

Cody James Photography

Posts: 152

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Little outta my league but I really like your port and it's great inspiration.

Jun 26 09 03:18 am Link