Forums > Model Colloquy > Lets talk about... Spread Shots.

Photographer

K E S L E R

Posts: 11574

Los Angeles, California, US

Whats the best way do models like to be told... "spread your legs wide?"

I find it a little creepish and uncomfortable to just flat out tell a model to spread her legs without her giving me a weird look...

Whats the best way would you like the photographer to pose you with words for a shot like this...

https://www.justinmacalaphoto.com/images/s14.jpg

Dec 17 08 12:43 pm Link

Model

-Nicole-

Posts: 19211

Madison, Wisconsin, US

I usually do it on my own, depending on what I'm wearing.

Dec 17 08 12:44 pm Link

Photographer

Sockpuppet Studios

Posts: 7862

San Francisco, California, US

"spread your legs and place your hands down in front, so we don't make this a porn shot"

Dec 17 08 12:44 pm Link

Photographer

K E S L E R

Posts: 11574

Los Angeles, California, US

M. Carle wrote:
"spread your legs and place your hands down in front, so we don't make this a porn shot"

Not sure I would refer the term "porn" lol

Dec 17 08 12:45 pm Link

Photographer

LongWindFPV Visuals

Posts: 7052

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

K E S L E R wrote:
Whats the best way do models like to be told... "spread your legs wide?"

I find it a little creepish and uncomfortable to just flat out tell a model to spread her legs without her giving me a weird look...

"ok, pull your knees apart as far as you can"

lol

C'mon man! Don't be afraid to use the Engrish ranguage!

Dec 17 08 12:47 pm Link

Photographer

Xeris - Dwight

Posts: 4369

Austin, Texas, US

One model that I worked with asked me if I wanted her to put one foot in 1 zip code and the other foot in another zip code.....

yikes

Dec 17 08 12:47 pm Link

Model

Rachel Jay

Posts: 20441

Nashville, Tennessee, US

For awkward stuff like that, if I don't have that kind of funny relationship with the photographer (and there are a few that I've worked with enough that I do), I would suggest just demonstrating the pose, perhaps saying "what if you tried something like this...?".

Either that, or bring a pose guide of sorts with you (even just a bunch of thumbnails printed out) that you can reference.  That way you can say, "I like this pose, but think it would look better if your hands were on the [surface] in front of you".

Does that help at all?

Dec 17 08 12:49 pm Link

Photographer

M Pandolfo Photography

Posts: 12117

Tampa, Florida, US

I usually try to just point over to the dashboard of my vehicle or a desktop, depending on the location of the shoot.

https://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q205/fins13mp/piledriverL.jpg

No wonder my shoots end so quickly.

Dec 17 08 12:49 pm Link

Photographer

This Is Goodbye

Posts: 119

Austin, Texas, US

Just be a grown up about it and let her know what you have planned - that way it won't be awkward or creepy.

Dec 17 08 12:49 pm Link

Photographer

pbellamy

Posts: 689

New York, New York, US

OK Luv, Spread em...


Please try and let me know how you get on...

Dec 17 08 12:49 pm Link

Photographer

Jeff Cohn

Posts: 3850

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

M. Carle wrote:
"spread your legs and place your hands down in front, so we don't make this a porn shot"

exactly

Dec 17 08 12:49 pm Link

Photographer

ABC ABC Inc

Posts: 941

Ashland, Alabama, US

K E S L E R wrote:

Not sure I would refer the term "porn" lol

I would totally use the term porn.  If what I'm trying to convey is that I *don't* want the pose to be porn-ish, why not say that?  I would probably say it and laugh - but then I generally try to keep my shoots light and fun.

Dec 17 08 12:50 pm Link

Photographer

Shelby Chan Photography

Posts: 560

New York, New York, US

"Ok, your knees, 10 and 2."

Dec 17 08 12:51 pm Link

Photographer

DDC Studios

Posts: 977

Bartlesville, Oklahoma, US

Pretend your knees hate each other!

Dec 17 08 12:51 pm Link

Photographer

James O Wright

Posts: 616

Kansas City, Missouri, US

This is not something that you and the model talked about in advance?  Before you got into the studio?  Seems to me if you have discussed it in advance then telling her to "open wide" in exactly so many words would not be any sort of problem for either of you.  She knows it will happen at some point during the shoot since you already talked about it.

Dec 17 08 12:53 pm Link

Photographer

Skydancer Photos

Posts: 22196

Santa Cruz, California, US

Send her some shot examples beforehand, not just the one. Or show them to her on set. Or show her the pose yourself... that usually makes them laugh. smile

Dec 17 08 12:53 pm Link

Model

Danica Lee

Posts: 881

Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

I've always been asked to "open you legs a little more" or "can you pull your knees back some more?".

I think it always going to sound weird if you feel weird saying it.

You can always break the ice by chuckling about it afterwards with a "Wait, that sounded bad. Sorry". If your model is feeling weird about your choice of words then it will give them a chance to laugh it off as well.

Dec 17 08 12:53 pm Link

Photographer

Photog Pablo

Posts: 591

Alamogordo, New Mexico, US

Michael Pandolfo wrote:
https://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q205/fins13mp/piledriverL.jpg

No wonder my shoots end so quickly.

That's just too funny!!!

Dec 17 08 12:53 pm Link

Photographer

Skydancer Photos

Posts: 22196

Santa Cruz, California, US

M. Carle wrote:
"spread your legs and place your hands down in front, so we don't make this a porn shot"

Or that. smile

Dec 17 08 12:54 pm Link

Photographer

Marco Aureliani

Posts: 719

Krabi, Southern, Thailand

ninja

Dec 17 08 12:54 pm Link

Photographer

Images By Eric

Posts: 556

Milledgeville, Georgia, US

I tend to try and discuss posing prior to shooting a particular shot ..... I call it the "man'ish" look! So when I am ready for the shot I tell them to give me the man'ish pose and they know to open there legs!

https://modelmayhm-6.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/081127/02/492e4ca63d4a6_m.jpg

Dec 17 08 12:55 pm Link

Photographer

MMDesign

Posts: 18647

Louisville, Kentucky, US

Make like butter and spread.

Dec 17 08 12:55 pm Link

Photographer

Estupido Studios

Posts: 234

Vernon, New Jersey, US

"move your feet farther apart"

Dec 17 08 12:57 pm Link

Photographer

SLE Photography

Posts: 68937

Orlando, Florida, US

Based on the pic in the op... "Straddle this rock with a wide stance, put your hands in front of you centered to lean on."

There're a FEW threads going on topics like this today.  Why does everyone make it sound like it's rocket science to direct a shoot in a clear and professional manner?  Is everyone REALLY so gun shy about being labeled a perv for telling someone how to pose??

Dec 17 08 12:58 pm Link

Model

BlkAnansie

Posts: 180

London, England, United Kingdom

"Open stance, please"

Me and the photographer agreed to this at the beginning should there be any shots that required said "spread" ...he was immensely shy so that's how he got around it. Worked well.

Dec 17 08 12:58 pm Link

Photographer

IrisSwope

Posts: 14857

Dallas, Texas, US

M. Carle wrote:
"spread your legs and place your hands down in front, so we don't make this a porn shot"

Yup, specifically pointing out that it's not a crotch shot work best. Because you know they're thinking it.

Dec 17 08 12:59 pm Link

Photographer

JLC Images

Posts: 11615

Phillipsburg, New Jersey, US

Lets see a smile from Vagzilla.

Dec 17 08 01:01 pm Link

Model

Emily Kherrington

Posts: 1000

Estupido Studios wrote:
"move your feet farther apart"

This sounds the best to me.

It's not a big deal, it's just a pose.   A good model would know this and trust the photographer.  If she's nervous or seems unsure about what you're trying to do, demonstrate what you're trying to do so that she understands.

Dec 17 08 01:03 pm Link

Photographer

K E S L E R

Posts: 11574

Los Angeles, California, US

Rofl. You guys are killing me!

Dec 17 08 01:04 pm Link

Model

Rachel Jay

Posts: 20441

Nashville, Tennessee, US

JLC Images wrote:
Lets see a smile from Vagzilla.

:dies: lol

Dec 17 08 01:05 pm Link

Model

Sophia Be

Posts: 6355

Portland, Oregon, US

Rachel Jay wrote:
For awkward stuff like that, if I don't have that kind of funny relationship with the photographer (and there are a few that I've worked with enough that I do), I would suggest just demonstrating the pose, perhaps saying "what if you tried something like this...?".

Either that, or bring a pose guide of sorts with you (even just a bunch of thumbnails printed out) that you can reference.  That way you can say, "I like this pose, but think it would look better if your hands were on the [surface] in front of you".

Does that help at all?

Great advice, Rachel.

I am not sure if there is a way to say it so that it doesn't sound a little creepy, but demonstrating it would be great on SO many levels!

Dec 17 08 01:07 pm Link

Photographer

JLC Images

Posts: 11615

Phillipsburg, New Jersey, US

JLC Images wrote:
Lets see a smile from Vagzilla.

Rachel Jay wrote:
:dies: lol

I wish I was kidding.  Why do you think she is smiling here

https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … the_count=

Dec 17 08 01:07 pm Link

Model

Zaia Fuentes

Posts: 1735

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Skydancer wrote:
Send her some shot examples beforehand, not just the one. Or show them to her on set. Or show her the pose yourself... that usually makes them laugh. smile

Sure does, I love it when photographers show me the pose they want me to do especially if it's rather funny lookin when they do it. Or when they squint their eyes and say do it more sexy like this and they pucker their lips.....ahhh Good Times big_smile

Dec 17 08 01:08 pm Link

Photographer

dgold

Posts: 10302

Pawtucket, Rhode Island, US

JLC Images wrote:
Lets see a smile from Vagzilla.

Eewwwwww!
Vagzilla....an image from the 1950's.

Dec 17 08 01:12 pm Link

Model

Rachel S

Posts: 537

Anchorage, Alaska, US

I usually spread them on my own. If I were a photographer though and had to ask someone I guess I'd just be honest and say "can you spread your legs wide for me please".

Dec 17 08 01:16 pm Link

Photographer

DFO

Posts: 1012

Huntsville, Alabama, US

Just demonstrate it to the best of your abilities.

Dec 17 08 01:16 pm Link

Photographer

MMDesign

Posts: 18647

Louisville, Kentucky, US

Lexy Lee wrote:
I usually spread them on my own. If I were a photographer though and had to ask someone I guess I'd just be honest and say "can you spread your legs wide for me please".

I am so not going there! smile

Dec 17 08 01:17 pm Link

Photographer

Tropic Light

Posts: 7595

Kailua, Hawaii, US

Press the bottoms of your feet together.

Dec 17 08 01:19 pm Link

Photographer

Jamtron Studio

Posts: 1066

Venice, Florida, US

James O Wright wrote:
This is not something that you and the model talked about in advance?  Before you got into the studio?  Seems to me if you have discussed it in advance then telling her to "open wide" in exactly so many words would not be any sort of problem for either of you.  She knows it will happen at some point during the shoot since you already talked about it.

I can't imagine discussing specific poses with a model beforehand. I don't even know what I'm going to shoot most of the time. It wouldn't even occur to me that a pose like this would make a model uncomfortable, and if it did, I would wonder why she was modelling. Of course, anything concerning nudity, real or implied, would be discussed, but sometimes not till we're shooting. Not that I'm trying to trick the model, but sometimes the situation calls for it (um, would you mind dropping the bra straps so they're not in the pic? The look you're giving would work a lot better). Either way, it's no big deal. I can pretty much work with anything. And most important, if the model is comfortable, and you're not creepy (big plus) you'll get what you want.

Dec 17 08 01:20 pm Link

Photographer

M A R T I N

Posts: 3893

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

how does a doctor ask? there's nothing unprofessional about "spread your legs".
just don't look like this when you say it:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bb/The_shining_heres_johnny.jpg

Dec 17 08 01:21 pm Link