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Mac Davis
Posts: 696
Atlanta, Georgia, US


I'm an older male model and would love to work with FEMALE Photographers. Reason.....to see their view of how a male should be shot and viewed. Do women togs have a better idea of what looks good for male models? I want to find out and would love to hear from some female photographers. smile

No offense guys, lol, just curious. It would seem a female tog would know better what a woman finds sexy, cute, romantic etc... To be honest, a lot of male togs have said they don't know how to shoot a male model and it's why they don't shoot them much...or even at all.

Look forward to hearing from you!
Dec 19 08 09:42 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
H Morgen
Posts: 135
Blaine, Minnesota, US


I find it hard to shoot male models with out a woman in the photo as well! I fear I will make them look girly or not manly enough...I find way too many photos of men looking really girly and I wish I could just take them and make them manly and hot! I have done some photos of men solo...I think they are pretty good...but I still feel I lack the the Man Shooting Skills!
Dec 19 08 10:53 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Latrishas Vision
Posts: 265
Flint, Michigan, US


I agree with H. I have not shoot many. And the ones I have shot I can't seem to direct. BUT!!! I'm not going to stop trying. I do believe in fairys, I do, I do, I do
Dec 19 08 10:57 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
H Morgen
Posts: 135
Blaine, Minnesota, US


Latrishas Vision wrote:
I agree with H. I have not shoot many. And the ones I have shot I can't seem to direct. BUT!!! I'm not going to stop trying. I do believe in fairys, I do, I do, I do

HAHA! I too will carry on the pursuit of shooting men!

Dec 19 08 11:00 am  Link  Quote 
Model
e-string
Posts: 24,002
Kansas City, Missouri, US


Sita is the BEST at this.

http://modelmayhm-8.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/081213/17/494434b8f0a8b_m.jpg

http://modelmayhm-8.vo.llnwd.net/d1/photos/080910/00/48c747b5aa6c4_m.jpg

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http://www.modelmayhem.com/pics.php?id=12528

Boy does that girl love men. big_smile
Dec 19 08 11:02 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Mac Davis
Posts: 696
Atlanta, Georgia, US


E-string smile good to see you again! Long time smile

I appreciate the input and honesty. I'll definately look into all suggested photographers! Keep them coming!
Dec 19 08 11:08 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Most Muscular
Posts: 70
Maplewood, Minnesota, US


H Morgen wrote:
I find it hard to shoot male models with out a woman in the photo as well! I fear I will make them look girly or not manly enough...I find way too many photos of men looking really girly and I wish I could just take them and make them manly and hot! I have done some photos of men solo...I think they are pretty good...but I still feel I lack the the Man Shooting Skills!

As Arnold would say... who wants to see a girly man?

Dec 19 08 06:57 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
EGibson Photography
Posts: 526
Lyons, New York, US


H Morgen wrote:
I find it hard to shoot male models with out a woman in the photo as well! I fear I will make them look girly or not manly enough...I find way too many photos of men looking really girly and I wish I could just take them and make them manly and hot! I have done some photos of men solo...I think they are pretty good...but I still feel I lack the the Man Shooting Skills!

Same here - I occasionally shoot males, but I worry about making them look effeminate

Dec 19 08 07:01 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Ronald N. Tan
Posts: 2,724
Los Angeles, California, US


Dec 19 08 07:05 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
DANACOLE
Posts: 10,157
Oslo, Oslo, Norway


I find guys easier and quicker to shoot as there is no need for an hour in make-up and wardrobe to get all ready....
Guys aren't as nitpicky on certain things which is abit refreshing. After about 20-30 shots they are ready to move on to the next look or outfit...

I will say I do at times have trouble posing guys. I try not to pose them to feminine...so I usually let them work thier bodies themselves and maybe have them tilt the head a different way or something.... I also look at mens mags directly before a soot with a guy and bookmark some poses I want him to do or try...

Being a female photographer.... I have gotten some very strange and very innaprropriate requests for shoots from males....
from shooting them nude while they jack off to wanting Me to set the timer on the camera and actually join them in the shoot(wth?) lol
So yeah I make sure I ask all questions when scheduling a shoot with a guy...

I do love Maya Guez work with guys..she rocks it
http://www.modelmayhem.com/1210
Dec 19 08 07:13 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Paul Bryson Photography
Posts: 48,035
Hollywood, Florida, US


Most Muscular wrote:

As Arnold would say... who wants to see a girly man?

Usually the customers...or about half the girls I know. tongue

Dec 19 08 07:21 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Underjoyed
Posts: 2,238
New York, New York, US


Most Muscular wrote:

As Arnold would say... who wants to see a girly man?

meeeeeee!!! I

Dec 19 08 07:24 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Ryuuzaki
Posts: 403
San Jose, California, US


Funny, I grew up among girls only, I didnt had a dad or male friends for long time, everyone was thinking I was going to turn gay but not at all, I grew up with girls hearing them and seeing them, and almost feeling like them, I saw them suffering and feeling pain and falling for normal things, my photography is focused in that dreamy world every girl has inside, and for so, I feel my photography of male is quite much what a girl likes pretty much. I just remember all their voices into what they think its cute or hot for them, and try to give them that.
Just my miserable 2cnts big_smile Have a great day anyone and come and check some photos big_smile I comment back :'D
Dec 19 08 07:32 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Brian Ziff
Posts: 4,105
Los Angeles, California, US


have you considered gay male photographers?

there are a lot of brilliant ones about.

really, i find it offensive to think that photography represents an inherent sexual interplay between model and photographer.  i think that the ability to do what a picture requires regardless of gender or orientation is a benchmark of success.
Dec 19 08 07:34 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Micyl Sweeney
Posts: 7,442
Madison, Alabama, US


Togs http://i43.tinypic.com/jfius4.gif


There are plenty of male photographers that know how to shoot males. Try using the browse feature and looking for both males and females in and around your area then look at their work in their ports to see if it is the style you are wanting to do. Post a casting call is a another idea stating female "photographer" prefered. BTW, using the word "togs" makes you look *holds breath, counts to 10* unprofessional.
Dec 19 08 07:44 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
SublimeImage Studios
Posts: 996
Austin, Texas, US


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Dec 19 08 07:49 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Elberta Lynn Gaither
Posts: 26
New York, New York, US


Males are about all I shoot!  I didn't plan it this way.  I like pin-up and high fashion just as much.  I was recruited by a hip-hop company to shoot commercial work, so here I am.  It's not the nude/semi-nude art shots on here.  No romance, cutesy, lovey stuff.  It's work that needs to sell to hip-hop audiences.  I don't force my clients (clients with no modeling experience...not models) into a macho stance, position, mental state like a lot of other photographers (male OR female) and I make sure as heck they don't look frou-frou.  I think they feel comfortable with me.  It's a different dynamic, like an actor and a director.  When you switch the gender/nationality/morals/etc of one, you also switch the background experience.  I'm NOT talking skill, here.  I'm talking about past references, history, memories, attitude.  A different artist creates different work.
Dec 19 08 08:14 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Christine Eadie - Art
Posts: 595
Charleston, South Carolina, US


I don't think women necessarily take better pictures of men. That's like saying only men can take good pictures of women. I disagree. It's all about the photographer and their talent regardless of gender. I've seen great pictures of men by male photographers that were not in the slightest way "girly"

I do think straight male models like the idea of being oggled by female photographers (as do many middle aged, balding male photographers).
I've often thought it was interesting that both sexes usually say they are more comfortable doing nude shoots when photographed by women.
Dec 19 08 08:22 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Candy Poses
Posts: 3,380
Seattle, Washington, US


I'm a beginning photographer (mostly portraiture), and it's never really occurred to me to seek out male subjects.  I'd rather photograph women, unless it's a man who's important to me in other ways- my friends, my boyfriend, my male family members.  I'm not sure why this is- I'm primarily attracted to men, not women- but it is what it is.
Dec 19 08 08:46 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
R A V E N D R I V E
Posts: 15,867
New York, New York, US


I find the result from working with women more aesthetically pleasing. To me, its like why I prefer to draw with a pencil instead of a pen: I like the result.
Dec 19 08 09:01 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
J T Smith
Posts: 1,449
Pittsfield, Illinois, US


I think what it boils down to is the natural relationship of being attracted to the opposite sex. Nothing wrong with that. That's what clicks this industry. It would be natural to think the opposite sex might work better.

It has been interesting to watch a female photographer get a PHOTO hard on over shooting a male like I see so many males get when shooting females. I don't mean to say that this is a bad thing. It's passion and it's given to us to be attracted. My point being is I hear so many models talk about male photographers getting emotionally excited and to see a female photographer experience the same concludes that it's a matter of fact that for the most part we are attracted to the opposite sex. Doesn't make anyone pigs, it's a natural thing.

Perhaps this 'attraction' might make the creative process more successful. You know, once you understand light, the other 90 percent is about mood and emotion.

J T
Dec 19 08 09:06 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Mac Davis
Posts: 696
Atlanta, Georgia, US


All good points and my apologies on the term TOGS.....just a quicker way to post and no offense meant. smile
Dec 20 08 12:55 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
SPierce Photography
Posts: 19,578
Amherst, Massachusetts, US


I love to photograph male models, imo they have a different style and aura. They're also crazy hard to find! Since I haven't had a lot of experience, i dont know how to pose them/suggest poses so its harder. I wish there were more experienced male models around here. I've got one in my port i love though.
Dec 20 08 01:00 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
KICKHAM Photography
Posts: 344
Los Angeles, California, US


I dunno. I just shot my first two male models the other day and put their pictures up. I don't think they turned out as good as the ones of girls (or maybe people just like to comment on pretty girls more lol), but the girls also had more experience modleing. Eh, who knows?
Dec 20 08 01:14 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
just jray
Posts: 286
Stephenville, Texas, US


Some of best shots ever taken of me were by female photographers.  And I am an even "older male"
Dec 20 08 06:03 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
William D Walsh
Posts: 867
San Francisco, California, US


I'm a male photographer.. I shoot males and females.. the clients now the models have never complained..
Dec 21 08 07:38 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
MV Productions
Posts: 129
Johnstown, Colorado, US


I have to say I haven't shot a lot of men artistically, just basic portraits for work. I'm trying my first artistic male model this Friday, so this forum is very helpful. My biggest worry is that I might make him look girly, but I'm sure I'll pull it off. Just seams like male models might actually show up more often than female models, just sayin'.
Dec 21 08 07:49 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
William D Walsh
Posts: 867
San Francisco, California, US


MV  Productions wrote:
I have to say I haven't shot a lot of men artistically, just basic portraits for work. I'm trying my first artistic male model this Friday, so this forum is very helpful. My biggest worry is that I might make him look girly, but I'm sure I'll pull it off. Just seams like male models might actually show up more often than female models, just sayin'.

whats wrong with making a guy look girly? if you ever work in fashion you're guys are going to have to rock that girly and make it work!

Dec 21 08 08:06 pm  Link  Quote 
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MV Productions
Posts: 129
Johnstown, Colorado, US


William D Walsh wrote:
whats wrong with making a guy look girly? if you ever work in fashion you're guys are going to have to rock that girly and make it work!

I think the biggest problem is guys normally don't look at other guys and want to make them look hot, the opposite sex is just more comfortable. Insecurities beat all, it just means we have to rize above to a higher level of maturity and not try to project our fears into our work.

Dec 21 08 08:14 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
William D Walsh
Posts: 867
San Francisco, California, US


MV  Productions wrote:

I think the biggest problem is guys normally don't look at other guys and want to make them look hot, the opposite sex is just more comfortable. Insecurities beat all, it just means we have to rize above to a higher level of maturity and not try to project our fears into our work.

hmm if  99% off designers and clients out there didn't want their males to be attractive to both females and males they want to sell their products to..lets just say fashion wouldnt exist

Dec 21 08 08:41 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
IrisSwope
Posts: 14,799
Dallas, Texas, US


Mac Davis wrote:
No offense guys, lol, just curious. It would seem a female tog would know better what a woman finds sexy, cute, romantic etc... To be honest, a lot of male togs have said they don't know how to shoot a male model and it's why they don't shoot them much...or even at all.

Look forward to hearing from you!

I don't know how to shoot guys, haha.

Dec 21 08 08:58 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
William D Walsh
Posts: 867
San Francisco, California, US


IrisSwope wrote:

I don't know how to shoot guys, haha.

pick up a gun.. point and shoot smile

Dec 21 08 09:00 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Mac Davis
Posts: 696
Atlanta, Georgia, US


LOL, I knew that was coming! wink
Dec 22 08 11:32 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Bobs Fine Art
Posts: 1,365
Annandale, Virginia, US


Even though I am not female, I though I would add this... 

I receiently decided to try and shoot a guy model; the first problem I had was  my standard posing technique of asking the model to close their eyes and imagine their on a dance floor and just move their arms and legs till I yell "STOP" failed to work cause guys are embrassed to dance!

So off to plan two, I had the model's girlfriend (his escort) pick a fight with the model, and that really seemed to work, oh gawd raw agression, you could just see it seething out of the eyes...  great masculine show off poses after that
Dec 23 08 10:13 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
La Image inc
Posts: 751
Manchester, England, United Kingdom


Well, Robert Maplethorn is one of the best male photographer who specialise in shooting male models.

One of the reason why he is so good in producing macho image of man, might be because he is also gay. He could see his subject in a different light.
Get his book from the library ... some amazing images!
Dec 23 08 09:12 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Monito -- Alan
Posts: 16,524
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada


Mac Davis wrote:
women togs

For information about women's clothes, ask a fashion designer.

Dec 23 08 10:16 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Monito -- Alan
Posts: 16,524
Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada


La Image inc wrote:
Well, Robert Maplethorn is one of the best male photographer who specialise in shooting male models. [...] he is [...] he is

Mapplethorpe (note spelling) ... is dead, almost 20 years now.

Dec 23 08 10:19 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Shon D.- Homme
Posts: 3,185
Virginia Beach, Virginia, US


I love shooting men. I don't find it difficult at all... Anyway, a good photographer to reference is Sita Mae. She kicks ass, and she's on my top 12.
Dec 23 08 10:20 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Grace Mendoza
Posts: 469
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Females seem more comfortable to shoot with me, males tend to be very shy or conserved. It's rare that I found males open while shooting, but when it does happen it's good photos in the making.
Dec 23 08 10:23 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Coldpiece Photography
Posts: 568
Long Beach, California, US


Mac Davis wrote:
I'm an older male model and would love to work with FEMALE Photographers. Reason.....to see their view of how a male should be shot and viewed. Do women togs have a better idea of what looks good for male models? I want to find out and would love to hear from some female photographers. smile

No offense guys, lol, just curious. It would seem a female tog would know better what a woman finds sexy, cute, romantic etc... To be honest, a lot of male togs have said they don't know how to shoot a male model and it's why they don't shoot them much...or even at all.

Look forward to hearing from you!

I am a female photographer, and in my experience, men love to shoot with me because I am friendly, open, non judgemental, and female.  I know what i like to see on a man and how i like to see it, so i am sensitive to what looks good.  according to them anyway.. most of my male shoots have ended with the former prudish guy doing nude shots smile- they just get that comfortable

Dec 23 08 10:23 pm  Link  Quote 
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