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Angelo Lorenzo Photo

Posts: 2094

Simi Valley, California, US

It seems like there is a generational gap in gel usage. As a younger person I'm aware that my peers and I only use them for strong color effects or light balancing while I watch these lighting vhs tapes and photographers are throwing amber gels here, blue gels there.

Is it just me or has there been a technique shift?

Do you use gels extensively? And how?

Jan 19 09 10:00 am Link

Photographer

digital Artform

Posts: 49326

Los Angeles, California, US

I don't use them much.

But a little warm light here and a little cool cross-lighting there can be nice.

Jan 19 09 10:03 am Link

Photographer

digital Artform

Posts: 49326

Los Angeles, California, US

I remember once I was working on a TV spot for a shampoo. The DP lit the product with a warm edge and a cool fill and I thought, damn! That looks pretty glamorous for a plastic shampoo bottle.

Jan 19 09 10:15 am Link

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Simon Gerzina

Posts: 2288

Brooklyn, New York, US

People obviously aren't using them as much for blanket color-correction, since variable white balance has totally changed that process.  On the other hand, discrete color-correction, like balancing a strobe against daylight or artificial ambient light, still means gelling those strobes or engaging in a mountain of post work with masks and layers.

I think you'll still see gels used a lot to style light...subtle colors can have a wonderful effect, like straws or bastard amber, opal frost, light steel blue and green.  I love seeing things like minus green used to evoke the sense of fluorescent ambients.

Honestly, I think that the higher you go up the food chain towards the top tier of commercial work the more you'll see gels used.  It's the folks at the bottom who just haven't been as exposed to how versatile they can be.

Jan 19 09 10:21 am Link

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Angelo Lorenzo Photo

Posts: 2094

Simi Valley, California, US

digital Artform wrote:
I remember once I was working on a TV spot for a shampoo. The DP lit the product with a warm edge and a cool fill and I thought, damn! That looks pretty glamorous for a plastic shampoo bottle.

I might have to try it, my friend is a stage manager so I have access to a whole cabinet of roscoe gels.

Jan 19 09 10:22 am Link

Photographer

digital Artform

Posts: 49326

Los Angeles, California, US

Angelo Lorenzo Photo wrote:

I might have to try it, my friend is a stage manager so I have access to a whole cabinet of roscoe gels.

It was subtle - not super saturated, btw

Jan 19 09 01:12 pm Link

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MikeBelobradic

Posts: 503

Hillsburgh, Ontario, Canada

I have no experience with gels. But since some were included with my SB900s, I may start experimenting.

Jan 19 09 01:18 pm Link

Photographer

digital Artform

Posts: 49326

Los Angeles, California, US

MikeBelobradic wrote:
I have no experience with gels. But since some were included with my SB900s, I may start experimenting.

Try flashing the foreground warm, and then cooling the image in post. You'll get a normal foreground and a cool rest of the world.

(or flash the foreground cool...)

Jan 19 09 01:20 pm Link

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Warren Leimbach

Posts: 3223

Tampa, Florida, US

Angelo Lorenzo Photo wrote:
It seems like there is a generational gap in gel usage. As a younger person I'm aware that my peers and I only use them for strong color effects or light balancing while I watch these lighting vhs tapes and photographers are throwing amber gels here, blue gels there.

Is it just me or has there been a technique shift?

Do you use gels extensively? And how?

I am old school and I still think gels and filters used together make very powerful combinations.  For example: a strong blue gel on your light along with a yellow filter on the lens makes for normal skin with an oppressive murky grey background. 

These days, you would still use the blue gel on the light, but don't need the yellow filter since the yellow can be added to the scene in post.  Makes for sharper pictures and one less piece of gear to schlep around.

Lately, the ease of in camera color balancing makes it possible to shoot "normal" scenes under fluorescent lights or mixed sources that would have required consulting a color meter and careful filtering to sort out.

Jan 19 09 01:22 pm Link

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Warren Leimbach

Posts: 3223

Tampa, Florida, US

* double post *

Jan 19 09 01:23 pm Link

Photographer

digital Artform

Posts: 49326

Los Angeles, California, US

A lot of gels on lenses in the past were there to make black and white photography look better.

I have a whole bunch of photos from when I was a kid that are all yellow because my father had been using a yellow filter to suppress the sky blue and make the clouds pop. And he forgot to remove the filter for color shooting.

Jan 19 09 01:26 pm Link

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Boho Hobo

Posts: 25351

Santa Barbara, California, US

I like gels mostly b/c I learned about them b/f PS so I have previsioned what I want and can get it in the shot(which I'm still shooting 75% film)  and then that means I don't have to rely on PS....mostly b/c I still suck at PS.

Jan 19 09 02:00 pm Link

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Daniel

Posts: 5169

Brooklyn, New York, US

While my use of them is minimal, here's a wealth of information from Rosco that may prove helpful to some. The Rosco Guide to Color Filters pdf alone is worth the visit.

http://www.rosco.com/canada/technotes/index.asp

Jan 19 09 02:01 pm Link

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L2Photography net

Posts: 2549

University City, Missouri, US

I use Gels. But then I am an old guy who has been lighting for TV for the last 27 years. In my port I geled a background to make is sea blue teal. I have an office girl in a hall with a yellow gel on a light just to add some depth to the shot.
L2

Jan 19 09 02:08 pm Link

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Sungoddess Studios

Posts: 5191

Keyport, New Jersey, US

yea, a younger photographer didn't know about filters I guess we are old school,
gels, relectors, filters it seams people would rather spend an hour bending waves than 5 seconds screwing on a filter,or something else simple

Jan 19 09 02:25 pm Link