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Kelly Ager MakeupArtist
Posts: 138
Liverpool, England, United Kingdom


Hey everyone!

I had a creepy man call me this morning - he said he was wondering if i was still looking for freelance work, and as I always am I said yes.

He then went on to say he had a project in a few weeks coming up, he said its a little bit different as its an adult film!

I instantly said no, its like the word fell out of my mouth!

So while on the subject just wondering if anyone has ever done make-up for a adult movie??

What I imagine seems to be highly embarrasing and uncomfortable.
Do you like have to touch up inbetween scenes when the make-up has 'sweated off'? lol *cringes*
Jul 05 09 09:50 am  Link  Quote 
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Jessyka Ann
Posts: 10,660
Hyannis, Massachusetts, US


yikes
Jul 05 09 09:51 am  Link  Quote 
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Rock Angel Photography
Posts: 895
Detroit, Michigan, US


I started out doing makeup for exotic dancers about 6 years ago, the adult industry pays well and i don't think i would have a problem applying makup on women for that venue, but thats just me. I am rather good at the porn star makeup so, and considering i don't have any moral hangups over the adult industry i would do the makeup, as long as it was for a reputable company such as VIVID etc.
Jul 05 09 09:55 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Kelly Ager MakeupArtist
Posts: 138
Liverpool, England, United Kingdom


Forbidden Touch Images wrote:
I started out doing makeup for exotic dancers about 6 years ago, the adult industry pays well and i don't think i would have a problem applying makup on women for that venue, but thats just me. I am rather good at the porn star makeup so, and considering i don't have any moral hangups over the adult industry i would do the makeup, as long as it was for a reputable company such as VIVID.

I don't think it was a reputable company, probably just a man and his hand held camera!

Jul 05 09 09:56 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Rock Angel Photography
Posts: 895
Detroit, Michigan, US


Kelly Ager MUA wrote:

I don't think it was a reputable company, probably just a man and his hand held camera!

then i wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole

Jul 05 09 09:57 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Kelly Ager MakeupArtist
Posts: 138
Liverpool, England, United Kingdom


I know! exactly why I respectfully declined his kind offer!!

It just got me thinking into what the whole thing would be like and if anyone had experience in doing it. Curiousity!
Jul 05 09 10:07 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
jdm
Posts: 1,221
Chicago, Illinois, US


I have, mostly fetish though.  Nothing with...penetration shall we say.  I personally wouldn't mind doing makeup for adult films though.  A check is a check, whether it's a top studio or small amateur one and if they want to pay my rates, go right ahead.
Jul 05 09 10:47 am  Link  Quote 
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SonoraImages
Posts: 673
Phoenix, Arizona, US


The responses have been very interesting!!! 

Would the MUA's responding in the negative be willing to do makeup for a corporate photo/video shoot of Bernard Madoff (he's ruined many people financially, and probably contributed to several suicides)?  What is the difference between that, and doing makeup for an "adult" shoot (photo or video)...with a professional photo staff, or even a GWC?  You're not participating in the activities of the models....just doing the makeup....

I just don't understand.....
Jul 05 09 10:58 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Sam Cantu
Posts: 397
Dallas, Texas, US


if its not a professional company he is trying to add creditability to his project by having you there.  scary...
Jul 05 09 11:01 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Kelly Ager MakeupArtist
Posts: 138
Liverpool, England, United Kingdom


I don't think there is anything wrong with doing make-up for an adult movie, however it was probably my prudish side coming out when I said no also the fact it didn't sound very professional and my curiousity lead to me create the post.

On the otherhand obviously if it was a good professional company I would definatly concider it. So I don't think I am being negative about it, just asking questions about things I have no clue about.
Jul 05 09 11:06 am  Link  Quote 
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Elizabeth Lakomsky
Posts: 2,235
New York, New York, US


Pretty silly of you to refuse, if you ask me. Give him my info...lol
The adult industry pays very well, and artists that do it use pseudonyms so that their name is unrecognized. It's bread and butter work, sort of like weddings (minus the clothes...lol)
I'd do it in a heartbeat. And as for him sounding creepy like he's with a hand held camera, what's it to you? As long as you're safe (that's paramount) and the check clears, I don't see the problem. Of course, if he was offering it up "TFP", then it's just too funny...
Jul 05 09 11:13 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Elizabeth Lakomsky
Posts: 2,235
New York, New York, US


SonoraImages wrote:
The responses have been very interesting!!! 

Would the MUA's responding in the negative be willing to do makeup for a corporate photo/video shoot of Bernard Madoff (he's ruined many people financially, and probably contributed to several suicides)?  What is the difference between that, and doing makeup for an "adult" shoot (photo or video)...with a professional photo staff, or even a GWC?  You're not participating in the activities of the models....just doing the makeup....

I just don't understand.....

AMEN! As long as the check clears! I'd do a corporate video, or an adult video, and anything in between. For a rate. Period.

Jul 05 09 11:14 am  Link  Quote 
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Nneka Chinello
Posts: 196
Los Angeles, California, US


Jack Absinthe wrote:
I have, mostly fetish though.  Nothing with...penetration shall we say.  I personally wouldn't mind doing makeup for adult films though.  A check is a check, whether it's a top studio or small amateur one and if they want to pay my rates, go right ahead.

exactly.
My friend did makeup for a strip club. All the girls were required to tip her $20 each, even if they didn't get makeup. There were 60 girls on some nights. The slow nights there were 20 girls on. plus she learned how to do an entire face in 15 - 20 mins.
Nneka

Jul 05 09 11:28 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
chart
Posts: 2,363
Los Angeles, California, US


this is a great thread......good stuff to think about. I think I have to say I would have to draw a line in the sand at porn. It's for totally personal reasons. I just feel very strongly about the subject (I don't agree with it)....so....I don't think I would take any amount of money to participate in a porn shoot.
Jul 05 09 11:41 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Michael Key
Posts: 223
New York, New York, US


Forbidden Touch Images wrote:
.....i would do the makeup, as long as it was for a reputable company.....

Reputable porn companies? Interesting.

Jul 05 09 12:41 pm  Link  Quote 
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DJ Photo
Posts: 120
Grand Forks, North Dakota, US


Post hidden on Mar 21, 2011 11:06 pm
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Comments:
This is an industry forum and your joke is inappropriate for here.
Jul 05 09 12:45 pm  Link 
Photographer
DJ Photo
Posts: 120
Grand Forks, North Dakota, US


missed the notation on that last one.
Jul 05 09 12:46 pm  Link  Quote 
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Philip R
Posts: 575
Agoura Hills, California, US


"Just a man with his hand-held camera" would never think of needing a make-up artist.
Jul 05 09 12:49 pm  Link  Quote 
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SonoraImages
Posts: 673
Phoenix, Arizona, US


mkeditor wrote:

Reputable porn companies? Interesting.

Would you consider Vivid unreputable?  Or any more unreputable then Playboy or Penthouse or even Hustler?  Maybe you are mixing feelings or personal beliefs versus what is considered "reputable".  I may not agree with porn, but that is my personal belief.

Jul 05 09 01:01 pm  Link  Quote 
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Beccalette Synthetic
Posts: 7,224
Sault Ste Marie, Ontario, Canada


Philip R wrote:
"Just a man with his hand-held camera" would never think of needing a make-up artist.

Very true.

Jul 05 09 01:02 pm  Link  Quote 
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JamesCMakeup
Posts: 577
Bombay, Maharashtra, India


I worked for an adult videographer, it was all done with a handheld and the stills with a pro camera.

I don't have a major problem with it IF its above board and professional.  Its just like any other job.  I take a book and read while the models do their job and then step in to do mine. 

Most of the glamour work I have done is just a step down from full adult. Although I would never step in front of the camera I don't have a problem with the job.  Everyone is entitled to earn a living. 

Just my take.
Jul 05 09 01:08 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
FYH Photography
Posts: 455
Santa Clara, California, US


Philip R wrote:
"Just a man with his hand-held camera" would never think of needing a make-up artist.

Ditto.  I've done stills shots for those types of productions. I wouldn't be judgmental until I knew more about the project and if I were the shooter requesting a MUA, I might be a tad insulted if someone implied I was somehow unprofessional due just to the nature of the shoot. wink  On Adult shoots, One of the more delicate issues is BODY MAKEUP.  People have blemishes, scars and bruises in places that distract from 'the action' usually the bottom, hips and legs  ... sometimes the arms.   You need a skilled MUA to keep the damned body makeup from wearing off.  LOL  But a gonzo shooter would not care about this.  So that seems counter intuitive to a 'cheap home movie style' shoot.

Also a lot of those 'stunning' vid Stars are pretty shocking when they show up with no makeup.  I was at a big club one day (visiting my friend the day manager in the upstairs office) when the 'feature dancer' (a well known Vivid girl) showed up on the day of their three day feature dancing gig.  All the employees thought she was a  homeless junkie who got lost.   The doorman almost called the police when she wouldn't go away ... LOL.    But she brought her own MUA with her and the transformation was stunning.  From hideous homeless looking person to feature dancer!  I would have loved to have been able to get some 'before and after' pics for the MUA ....wink

Jul 05 09 01:23 pm  Link  Quote 
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Miss Anna Evans
Posts: 40,233
Astoria, New York, US


mkeditor wrote:

Reputable porn companies? Interesting.

It's possible to be reputable in any line of work, regardless of other people's moral hang ups about the work.

Jul 05 09 01:27 pm  Link  Quote 
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PBK Photography
Posts: 1,109
Dallas, Texas, US


Post hidden on Mar 21, 2011 11:08 pm
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This is an industry forum, your joke is inappropriate here.
Jul 05 09 01:45 pm  Link 
Photographer
Digitoxin
Posts: 13,341
Houston, Texas, US


Kelly Ager MUA wrote:
Hey everyone!

I had a creepy man call me this morning - he said he was wondering if i was still looking for freelance work, and as I always am I said yes.

He then went on to say he had a project in a few weeks coming up, he said its a little bit different as its an adult film!

I instantly said no, its like the word fell out of my mouth!

So while on the subject just wondering if anyone has ever done make-up for a adult movie??

What I imagine seems to be highly embarrasing and uncomfortable.
Do you like have to touch up inbetween scenes when the make-up has 'sweated off'? lol *cringes*

This is interesting.  It is hard to tell if you passed on the gig because of the subject matter or because of the dude's approach.

Every person in every profession has a right to work on (or not) projects that they feel comfortable with.  Everyone has a right to turn down work (except a medical doctor I guess) if they simply don't like the gig.

As a photographer, I would decline to shoot porn.  Why?  It is not me and it is not something I wish to do.  There a many others that do shoot it and likely do damn good and professional job of it.  That said, I also don't wish to do weddings.  I have turned them down repeatedly.  Again, not my thing.   

But, ask yourself this:  IF the gig involved you coming to the set, applying the makeup and then leaving the room to go watch TV for (some duration) in another room and then come back in and reapply make-up as needed, would you do the gig then?

Jul 05 09 01:52 pm  Link  Quote 
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Chris Teel
Posts: 483
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Back in the day I assisted another photographer who was doing adult still shots.  His MUAs were applying body oil to the torsos of guys who were raring to go and, let's say, MORE than excited.  These were MUAs who had assisted on a high fashion video shoot the day before.  They were professionals on both shoots despite the danger of having their eyes poked out tongue
Jul 05 09 02:05 pm  Link  Quote 
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Dean Johnson Photo
Posts: 56,529
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US


Miss Anna Evans wrote:

It's possible to be reputable in any line of work, regardless of other people's moral hang ups about the work.

QFT

Jul 05 09 03:43 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
sara knight
Posts: 163
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia


Philip R wrote:
"Just a man with his hand-held camera" would never think of needing a make-up artist.

thats true..why would he get one in that case

if ur going to get paided why not ..i would

Jul 05 09 04:00 pm  Link  Quote 
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KCMakeup
Posts: 674
Wellington, Wellington, New Zealand


Miss Anna Evans wrote:

It's possible to be reputable in any line of work, regardless of other people's moral hang ups about the work.

+1!

Jul 05 09 07:03 pm  Link  Quote 
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K Photographic Dreams
Posts: 1,788
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada


Jack Absinthe wrote:
I have, mostly fetish though.  Nothing with...penetration shall we say.  I personally wouldn't mind doing makeup for adult films though.  A check is a check, whether it's a top studio or small amateur one and if they want to pay my rates, go right ahead.

That's what I was thinking, but...

Jul 05 09 07:04 pm  Link  Quote 
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K Photographic Dreams
Posts: 1,788
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada


Miss Anna Evans wrote:

It's possible to be reputable in any line of work, regardless of other people's moral hang ups about the work.

+1

Jul 05 09 07:05 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
A-M-P
Posts: 18,089
Orlando, Florida, US


Jack Absinthe wrote:
I have, mostly fetish though.  Nothing with...penetration shall we say.  I personally wouldn't mind doing makeup for adult films though.  A check is a check, whether it's a top studio or small amateur one and if they want to pay my rates, go right ahead.

I agree

Jul 05 09 07:08 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
liz yu
Posts: 1,902
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


body fluid of any kind is not my thing, having to deal with the small amount of saliva on jobs with kids or models that are lip lickers already pushes my limit.. crotch juices on a set where they are actively producing it and rubbing it all over everything they touch are definitely out of the question for me.

i just don't like to touch other ppl's secretion, even the dried up stuff.
Jul 05 09 07:10 pm  Link  Quote 
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A-M-P
Posts: 18,089
Orlando, Florida, US


liz yu wrote:
body fluid of any kind is not my thing, having to deal with the small amount of saliva on jobs with kids or models that are lip lickers already pushes my limit.. crotch juices on a set where they are actively producing it and rubbing it all over everything they touch are definitely out of the question for me.

i just don't like to touch other ppl's secretion, even the dried up stuff.

wow

Jul 05 09 07:15 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Chanel Rene
Posts: 6,767
Huntington Beach, California, US


liz yu wrote:
body fluid of any kind is not my thing, having to deal with the small amount of saliva on jobs with kids or models that are lip lickers already pushes my limit.. crotch juices on a set where they are actively producing it and rubbing it all over everything they touch are definitely out of the question for me.

i just don't like to touch other ppl's secretion, even the dried up stuff.

tell us how you really feel... wink

Jul 05 09 07:19 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Lori Mann
Posts: 321
West Chester, Pennsylvania, US


liz yu wrote:
body fluid of any kind is not my thing, having to deal with the small amount of saliva on jobs with kids or models that are lip lickers already pushes my limit.. crotch juices on a set where they are actively producing it and rubbing it all over everything they touch are definitely out of the question for me.

i just don't like to touch other ppl's secretion, even the dried up stuff.

Interesting profession you chose in that case...  wink

Jul 05 09 07:20 pm  Link  Quote 
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A-M-P
Posts: 18,089
Orlando, Florida, US


Lori Mann wrote:

Interesting profession you chose in that case...  wink

I was thinking the same thing

Jul 05 09 07:22 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Andrea Martini
Posts: 1,031
SHOHOLA, Pennsylvania, US


disposables and a lot of scraping from pans....pay my rates and i will put makeup on just about anything. a paycheck is a paycheck! lol!

lol
Jul 05 09 07:23 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
liz yu
Posts: 1,902
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


Lori Mann wrote:

Interesting profession you chose in that case...  wink

i like my job.  that's just one of the down side.  but i'm not going out of my way to do a job where juices could have been smudged on just about everything you touch on set.

Jul 05 09 07:27 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
glamour pics
Posts: 6,095
Los Angeles, California, US


James_mua wrote:
I worked for an adult videographer, it was all done with a handheld and the stills with a pro camera.

I don't have a major problem with it IF its above board and professional.  Its just like any other job.  I take a book and read while the models do their job and then step in to do mine. 

Just my take.

I'm a little confused. Every time I've ever used a makeup artist, they help out during the shoot by watching for hair out of place, problems with the clothing, etc., not only for makeup issues. Simple professionalism and determination to be as helpful as possible. Same thing on major celebrity shoots, where I have assisted, even when there are separate hair and styling people present. If I hired an MUA and the MUA thought the time ... that I paid for ... should be used for recreational reading, it would be the last time THAT MUA worked for me.

Jul 05 09 08:50 pm  Link  Quote 
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