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Photography by BE
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Any tips on how to make a model’s breasts look fuller and more symmetrical  if she is natural and has no implants.

no tape suggestions please, because that requires to much photoshop.  LOL

I find it difficult to photograph them reclining on their back, because that only flattens them, and sometimes when standing they are uneven.


....edit.. Please let me substitute the word "model" for "subject", or "paying custoner"  The question applies to both really.  smile

I used the word model as in.. someone who I am photographing... a model.. someone who is allowing me to photograph them.
Nov 02 09 12:48 pm  Link  Quote 
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Sentimental Treasures
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Sounds like you going to be doing it in Photoshop no matter what...  use the bloat tool in the liquify filter...  works great when you need that extra cup size
Nov 02 09 12:52 pm  Link  Quote 
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Miss Anthrope 1007
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Photography by BE wrote:
Any tips on how to make a model’s breasts look fuller and more symmetrical  if she is natural and has no implants.

no tape suggestions please, because that requires to much photoshop.  LOL

I find it difficult to photograph them reclining on their back, because that only flattens them, and sometimes when standing they are uneven.

Find a different model.  There's a very popular art nude model on here
with not the best breasts but she gets alot of work.  Mine are natural
and no photoshop is done on them.  I know they're not perfect, but
if a photographer wants perfect natural, then find and hire that.

Nov 02 09 12:54 pm  Link  Quote 
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Doug Swinskey
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so basically how do you make natural breasts look fake?....

i'm sure theres a photoshop silicon filter....

un fucking believable...
Nov 02 09 12:57 pm  Link  Quote 
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Rebel Photo
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Photoshopped breasts look...............................photoshopped
Nov 02 09 12:57 pm  Link  Quote 
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Charles West
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Photography by BE wrote:
Any tips on how to make a model’s breasts look fuller and more symmetrical  if she is natural and has no implants.

no tape suggestions please, because that requires to much photoshop.  LOL

I find it difficult to photograph them reclining on their back, because that only flattens them, and sometimes when standing they are uneven.

This is precisely why I very rarely shoot models on their backs.  It doesn't look good.  Use different poses.  You can only have so many dead body shots, anyway.

Nov 02 09 12:57 pm  Link  Quote 
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Jeff Fiore
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Lighting?
Nov 02 09 01:03 pm  Link  Quote 
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Gonzo Photos
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Doug Swinskey wrote:
so basically how do you make natural breasts look fake?....

i'm sure theres a photoshop silicon filter....

un fucking believable...

+1

Nov 02 09 01:03 pm  Link  Quote 
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Yves Bougardier
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Jeff Fiore wrote:
Lighting?

+1

Nov 02 09 01:05 pm  Link  Quote 
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Photography by BE
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Doug Swinskey wrote:
so basically how do you make natural breasts look fake?....

i'm sure theres a photoshop silicon filter....

un fucking believable...
Gonzo Photos wrote:
+1

I didn't say fake, I said fuller, as in more even in size and maybe shape.  Some of the women I photograph are much different in size, and one breast is much higher.

Some sag, and they are not happy about that.

Oh, I can do some poses that will help, but I hate to have them leaning the same way all the time.

Nov 02 09 01:07 pm  Link  Quote 
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Natalia Drulle
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ugh ...men.


Make sure she stand with good posture, when you draw your shoulders back it makes it look like they are fuller
Nov 02 09 01:09 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ralph Livingston
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Appropriate casting and lighting.
Nov 02 09 01:10 pm  Link  Quote 
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Moon Pix Photography
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Miss Anthrope 1007 wrote:

Find a different model.  There's a very popular art nude model on here
with not the best breasts but she gets alot of work.  Mine are natural
and no photoshop is done on them.  I know they're not perfect, but
if a photographer wants perfect natural, then find and hire that.

+1

Nov 02 09 01:13 pm  Link  Quote 
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Photography by BE
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Ralph Livingston wrote:
Appropriate casting and lighting.

Okey.. that is my question?  Just saying "appropriate" doesn't tell me much. smile

LOL.. Put one light high on the side with the perky breast, and one down low on the side with the one that sags more, or just the opposite.

I have no clue what "casting" is (in this context).

Nov 02 09 01:15 pm  Link  Quote 
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Sentimental Treasures
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Ralph Livingston wrote:
Appropriate casting and lighting.

But what if this was a paying client?  What would everyone do then?  I've seen women that have significant size different breast... and I find it easier to inflate one to match the other, than to keep posing them to one side to hide the fact they are not equal

Nov 02 09 01:16 pm  Link  Quote 
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Photography by BE
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Sentimental Treasures wrote:
But what if this was a paying client?  What would everyone do then?  I've seen women that have significant size different breast... and I find it easier to inflate one to match the other, than to keep posing them to one side to hide the fact they are not equal

I agree, and most of my work is for paying clients .. non models.  I realize I said "model" in my OP, but that is a word I have gotten used to saying when on forums. smile


By inflate you mean in Photo Shop, I guess?  I have done that, but sometimes it is a difficult process, depending on the pose.. the angle of the  breasts.
Thanks.

Nov 02 09 01:19 pm  Link  Quote 
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Kita St Cyr
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Photography by BE wrote:

Okey.. that is my question?  Just saying "appropriate" doesn't tell me much. smile

LOL.. Put one light high on the side with the perky breast, and one down low on the side with the one that sags more, or just the opposite.

I have no clue what "casting" is (in this context).

She's saying hire someone with breasts that look like what you want your final product to look like.

Nov 02 09 01:19 pm  Link  Quote 
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Photography by BE
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Kita St Cyr wrote:
She's saying hire someone with breasts that look like what you want your final product to look like.

OK.. smile I guess it was the use of "casting and lighting" in the same sentence that confused me.  I was trying to remember what casting had to do with lighting.. LOL

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Nov 02 09 01:22 pm  Link 
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ACPhotography
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Photography by BE wrote:
Any tips on how to make a model’s breasts look fuller and more symmetrical  if she is natural and has no implants.

no tape suggestions please, because that requires to much photoshop.  LOL

I find it difficult to photograph them reclining on their back, because that only flattens them, and sometimes when standing they are uneven.

From someone who shoots a lot of nudes with both real and augmented and many different cup sizes, I say real perform better...

Nov 02 09 01:25 pm  Link  Quote 
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joeyk
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Photography by BE wrote:
Any tips on how to make a model’s breasts look fuller and more symmetrical  if she is natural and has no implants.

no tape suggestions please, because that requires to much photoshop.  LOL

I find it difficult to photograph them reclining on their back, because that only flattens them, and sometimes when standing they are uneven.

Arms above the head...

Nov 02 09 01:26 pm  Link  Quote 
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StukiePhoto
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headstand!
Nov 02 09 01:26 pm  Link  Quote 
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Sentimental Treasures
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you know... turning it into a bondage shoot could help too... tie one breast tighter than the other to even out the size...  just a thought
Nov 02 09 01:30 pm  Link  Quote 
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Eduardo Frances
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Photography by BE wrote:

Okey.. that is my question?  Just saying "appropriate" doesn't tell me much. smile

LOL.. Put one light high on the side with the perky breast, and one down low on the side with the one that sags more, or just the opposite.

I have no clue what "casting" is (in this context).

Casting refers to choosing the right model for what you want to do, this will save you lots of hours and headaches in photoshop.

If you want a model with fuller and/or more symmetric breast be sure to search for a model with fuller and more symmetric breasts instead of risking to have a photoshop disaster because you choose the wrong type of model for a particular photoshoot. big_smile

Nov 02 09 01:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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MEK Photography
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If you have an idea that requires a certain look, find and work with a model that has and can do that look. 

That's the easiest way.
Nov 02 09 01:33 pm  Link  Quote 
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Sleep_to_dream
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Natalia Drulle wrote:
ugh ...men.


Make sure she stand with good posture, when you draw your shoulders back it makes it look like they are fuller

+1

good posture makes a HUGE difference. I always have my shoulders back and it makes my breasts look like they are 5 years younger lol

Nov 02 09 01:34 pm  Link  Quote 
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Photography by BE
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Photography by BE wrote:
Okey.. that is my question?  Just saying "appropriate" doesn't tell me much. smile

LOL.. Put one light high on the side with the perky breast, and one down low on the side with the one that sags more, or just the opposite.

I have no clue what "casting" is (in this context).
Eduardo Frances wrote:
Casting refers to choosing the right model for what you want to do, this will save you lots of hours and headaches in photoshop.

If you want a model with fuller and/or more symmetric breast be sure to search for a model with fuller and more symmetric breasts instead of risking to have a photoshop disaster because you choose the wrong type of model for a particular photoshoot. big_smile

Reading more than one post helps when a reply is made. smile

What about a regular paying client, non model.. OK..  And I already replied to the casting reply.. It was just the use of "casting and lighting" in the same sentence that confused me.. as I said already.   I done said that.  smile

I said that previously.

Nov 02 09 01:36 pm  Link  Quote 
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Natalia Drulle wrote:
ugh ...men.


Make sure she stand with good posture, when you draw your shoulders back it makes it look like they are fuller
Sleep_to_dream wrote:
good posture makes a HUGE difference. I always have my shoulders back and it makes my breasts look like they are 5 years younger lol

Does the same for me.  wink

Nov 02 09 01:38 pm  Link  Quote 
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ixxxix
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Some people are going to take shots at/in this thread and probably intentionally misinterpret your meaning, but there are some legitimate concerns here.  We all know what physics and gravity will do in certain poses and the OP is asking for tips on how others address that.  The title might cause some knee jerk reactions but this question really is not absurd.

On top of some of the suggestions you've received a simple simple workaround is instead of shooting the model laying horizontally, you shoot her vertically and rotate the photo itself.  This is not something you can do with full body photos, of course, but if you're using tight framing (in close, filling the frame with just her torso or even closer filling the frame with ribcage up) you can simply drape a comforter over the back of a door and have her lean against it.  It does not apply in all settings or methods of framing your photo, but it is a simple trick if you're in close.
Nov 02 09 01:49 pm  Link  Quote 
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Chris Beyond
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Ralph Livingston wrote:
Appropriate casting and lighting.

+1

I also think you should be a little more clear with your original post. You make it seem as if you prefer to work with models with implants because you don't know how to shoot models with natural breasts. The pose would be important to mention as different poses mean different suggestions.

Nov 02 09 01:51 pm  Link  Quote 
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penn
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WTF..... For real...ugh...

You know, well strike that.

If boobs are your main concern, then find the right boobs. You will have to look at them all, and study them carefully. Paid models have the best boobs, and they will charge per specimen. God does an okay job, but the man with the knife will yield more symmetrical and fuller boobs. You could always ask the model first, something like, "Are your boobs full and symmetrical, and if they are can I photograph them?". I dunno, guess you will have to rely on your wealth of experience and maturity to make the best boob decision possible. Good luck.....
Nov 02 09 01:52 pm  Link  Quote 
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Digital Czar
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Photography by BE wrote:
Any tips on how to make a model’s breasts look fuller and more symmetrical  if she is natural and has no implants.

no tape suggestions please, because that requires to much photoshop.  LOL

I find it difficult to photograph them reclining on their back, because that only flattens them, and sometimes when standing they are uneven.

For most women, one is larger than the other. Same goes for feet, arms etc. The body is not a perfect mirror image left to right.

Nov 02 09 01:54 pm  Link  Quote 
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Digital Czar
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penn wrote:
WTF..... For real...ugh...

You know, well strike that.

If boobs are your main concern, then find the right boobs. You will have to look at them all, and study them carefully. Paid models have the best boobs, and they will charge per specimen. God does an okay job, but the man with the knife will yield more symmetrical and fuller boobs. You could always ask the model first, something like, "Are your boobs full and symmetrical, and if they are can I photograph them?". I dunno, guess you will have to rely on your wealth of experience and maturity to make the best boob decision possible. Good luck.....

You're saying they charge by the specimen? Do you mean by the boob? :-)

Multiplication shouldn't be a big problem...

Nov 02 09 01:55 pm  Link  Quote 
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Photography by BE
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Chris Beyond wrote:
I also think you should be a little more clear with your original post. You make it seem as if you prefer to work with models with implants because you don't know how to shoot models with natural breasts. The pose would be important to mention as different poses mean different suggestions.
Photography by BE wrote:
Any tips on how to make a model’s breasts look fuller and more symmetrical  if she is natural and has no implants.

no tape suggestions please, because that requires to much photoshop.  LOL

I find it difficult to photograph them reclining on their back, because that only flattens them, and sometimes when standing they are uneven.

How so?  I asked for tips on how to do it.  I am not sure how you can take that other than I want to know.  I never said one thing about wanting to shoot only with models who had implants.

Why would I ask if I wasn't wondering.  ?? Yeesh.  I can see where the word "model" might not have been the correct word, but other than that...??  And  how do you get the idea I I don't know how to photograph  them... I was just asking for tips.. something  new I might not know and could learn..

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Leonard Gee Photography
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If they have a decently designed top with support on, just have them lean forward.

If they don't have a top on, have them wrap their arms under the objects in question, push on them by tightening the arms.

They can also lay down on their stomach and let the objects under discussion be support or pushed up by whatever they are lying on.

You'd think no one has ever posed a natural female before this....
Nov 02 09 02:01 pm  Link  Quote 
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Photography by BE
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penn wrote:
WTF..... For real...ugh...

You know, well strike that.

If boobs are your main concern, then find the right boobs. You will have to look at them all, and study them carefully. Paid models have the best boobs, and they will charge per specimen. God does an okay job, but the man with the knife will yield more symmetrical and fuller boobs. You could always ask the model first, something like, "Are your boobs full and symmetrical, and if they are can I photograph them?". I dunno, guess you will have to rely on your wealth of experience and maturity to make the best boob decision possible. Good luck.....

Why am I getting the feellings:

1) Not many read the replies
2) Few seem to photograph any female other than a model who they pay or TF*....... in other words, no real paying customers.. just models who are perfect.  And they avoid any female who does not have perfect breasts.  Amazing.

Nov 02 09 02:02 pm  Link  Quote 
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Photography by BE
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Leonard Gee Photography wrote:
If they have a decently designed top on, just have them lean forward.

If they don't have a top on, have them wrap their arms under the objects in question, push on them with by tightening the arms'

Ahhh.. thanks.. I see you read and understood and are able to give some good advice.   Couple of  poses I can use. smile  Maybe this is the start of useful information and the end of the replies from those who can't or don't read.  smile

Thanks again.

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Nov 02 09 02:07 pm  Link 
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Ralph Livingston
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Actually, going back and rereading the OP...
are you talking about a nude/topless shot?
Some form of clothed shot?
Is this a shot you are putting together?
Is this a just-in-case walk-in scenerio for a glam/portrait?

What is this about??
Nov 02 09 02:10 pm  Link  Quote 
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