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Rastal Photographic
Posts: 261

For those that aren't aware, I thought I'd pass the word on - There will be a meteor shower on 11/17.  Set the tripod up - it's supposed to be one of the bigger shower events of our lifetime.
Nov 05 09 05:06 am  Link  Quote 
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sureshotstudios
Posts: 272

Rastal Photographic wrote:
it's supposed to be one of the bigger shower events of our lifetime.

"While the Leonids have been spectacular in years past, this year a modest display is expected."

http://news.aol.com/story/_a/meteor-sho … 0509990001

Nov 05 09 05:20 am  Link  Quote 
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Nelson Harrison
Posts: 63

sureshotstudios wrote:

"While the Leonids have been spectacular in years past, this year a modest display is expected."

http://news.aol.com/story/_a/meteor-sho … 0509990001

The link above is for the 2007 shower.

Nov 05 09 05:28 am  Link  Quote 
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Paul Bryson Photography
Posts: 36,000

Rastal Photographic wrote:
For those that aren't aware, I thought I'd pass the word on - There will be a meteor shower on 11/17.  Set the tripod up - it's supposed to be one of the bigger shower events of our lifetime.

Link?

NASA is launching Atlantis on Nov. 16. I'm fairly certain they wouldn't launch if there was gonna be debris in the way.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shutt … index.html

Edit: Then again...
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008 … ds2009.htm

Nov 05 09 05:31 am  Link  Quote 
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Rebel Photo
Posts: 7,326

On Nov. 17, 2009, Earth will pass through the 1466 stream again, but this time closer to the center. Based on the number of meteors observed in 2008, Vaubaillon can estimate the strength of the coming display: five hundred or more Leonids per hour during a few-hour peak centered on 21:43 UT.

"Our own independent model of the debris stream agrees," said Bill Cooke of the NASA Marshall Space Flight Center, "We predict a sub-storm level outburst on Nov. 17, 2009, peaking sometime between 21:34 and 21:44 UT."

so much for the Shuttle

Nov 05 09 05:33 am  Link  Quote 
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AVD AlphaDuctions
Posts: 1,606

Paul Bryson Photography wrote:

Link?

NASA is launching Atlantis on Nov. 16. I'm fairly certain they wouldn't launch if there was gonna be debris in the way.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shutt … index.html

Edit: Then again...
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008 … ds2009.htm

you can have a perfectly spectacular show and not pose a danger to the shuttle or to existing  orbital objects. 

"The 2009 display peaking on November 17 may produce more than 500 meteors an hour."

Nov 05 09 05:39 am  Link  Quote 
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RacerXPhoto
Posts: 426

I wish I could get out to somewhere that I could see this Unfortunately I live in the photo pollution capital of the world.
Nov 05 09 05:51 am  Link  Quote 
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Ben Levis
Posts: 1,264

they reckon it will peak around 21:30 UT so i dunno how that works out for you guys but for me UT +8.00 means the sun ruins it sad I am going to a dark sky site just in case it comes in early though tongue
Nov 05 09 06:00 am  Link  Quote 
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sureshotstudios
Posts: 272

Nelson Harrison wrote:

The link above is for the 2007 shower.

sorry about that... Posts on the net should have a date in BOLD  smile

Nov 05 09 06:02 am  Link  Quote 
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Paul Bryson Photography
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AVD AlphaDuctions wrote:

you can have a perfectly spectacular show and not pose a danger to the shuttle or to existing  orbital objects. 

"The 2009 display peaking on November 17 may produce more than 500 meteors an hour."

True...and I know NASA can pretty much track even the smallest object and project it's path. But still, I do hope they have all the calculations correct for this launch. One missed pebble is all it would take to cause a bad hair day.

Nov 05 09 06:05 am  Link  Quote 
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Ben Levis
Posts: 1,264

Paul Bryson Photography wrote:

True...and I know NASA can pretty much track even the smallest object and project it's path.

True.. but they have to actually find it first big_smile that's where the problem is smile

Nov 05 09 06:15 am  Link  Quote 
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Davis Digital
Posts: 32

Meteor shower is a bit misleading, since most of the "meteors" are actually left over dust particles 0.5mm in size. Not to say a space walk would be ok, traveling at 17,500mph.
IMO, it still doesn't sound smart, but then remember the Challenger. NASA has made some bone head moves before.
Nov 05 09 06:31 am  Link  Quote 
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Alex Minkin Photography
Posts: 469

November 17th- peak leonids and the release of star trek the DVD. i'm torn between my two nerd objects of desire
Nov 05 09 06:41 am  Link  Quote 
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Davis Digital
Posts: 32

Alex Minkin Photography wrote:
November 17th- peak leonids and the release of star trek the DVD. i'm torn between my two nerd objects of desire

the DVD has a pause button

Nov 05 09 06:46 am  Link  Quote 
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Nick Wade Photography
Posts: 129

Ok  guess i am a little thick i know what 21:30 is,what is UT on the east coast //
Nov 05 09 06:48 am  Link  Quote 
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Dogbone Alt-Process
Posts: 900

Nick Wade Photography wrote:
Ok  guess i am a little thick i know what 21:30 is,what is UT on the east coast //

EST = UTC - 5

21:30 UTC
-5:00
------
16:30 EST

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html

Nov 05 09 07:07 am  Link  Quote 
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Smedley Whiplash
Posts: 10,840

If you want to know more about it.
http://meteorshowersonline.com/leonids.html

Sounds like Asia is the best viewing point. Guessing that means Montana's view will prolly suck.
Nov 05 09 07:20 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Essential Image
Posts: 58

Dogbone Alt-Process wrote:

EST = UTC - 5

21:30 UTC
-5:00
------
16:30 EST

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html

4:30 in the afternoon should make for a spectacular show

Nov 05 09 07:22 am  Link  Quote 
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Dogbone Alt-Process
Posts: 900

Essential Image wrote:
4:30 in the afternoon should make for a spectacular show

Not all is lost...

"A far more modest, but still potentially enjoyable display of a few dozen Leonid meteors per hour is expected to favor North America. In the United States and Canada, eastern observers will be particularly well-positioned for maximum activity, expected sometime between 3:30 and 5:30 a.m. EST, when the radiant of the Leonid shower will be well up in the dark southeastern sky."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33589356/ns … e-science/

Not likely I'll find a model interested in posing outdoors at that hour but might still be worth waking up early for.

Nov 05 09 07:27 am  Link  Quote 
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AVD AlphaDuctions
Posts: 1,606

Dogbone Alt-Process wrote:

Not all is lost...

"A far more modest, but still potentially enjoyable display of a few dozen Leonid meteors per hour is expected to favor North America. In the United States and Canada, eastern observers will be particularly well-positioned for maximum activity, expected sometime between 3:30 and 5:30 a.m. EST, when the radiant of the Leonid shower will be well up in the dark southeastern sky."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33589356/ns … e-science/

Not likely I'll find a model interested in posing outdoors at that hour but might still be worth waking up early for.

wake the model up. 
position tripod
position model in frame - you can get away with doing things backwards at this hour so why not?
shoot model
put model back to bed
do 1 minute time exposure
do 2-3 minute
do 4-5 minute time exposure
photoshop model on top of time exposure that works best

Nov 05 09 08:43 am  Link  Quote 
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