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212-GO-LUCKY
Posts: 417

I guess its going to be another Gimme Me Your Money Mr Consumer, like the first one.

I dont see the appeal, not with the super compact DSLRs Oly have.

http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/e-p2.jpg

How long until these are in the bargain bins?
Nov 07 09 02:54 pm  Link  Quote 
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Stephen Melvin
Posts: 15,648

You haven't used one of those super-compact dSLR's of Oly, have you?

I'm glad to see that the EP-2 at least has the option of a proper finder.
Nov 07 09 03:08 pm  Link  Quote 
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isuckatphotography
Posts: 2,419

i have met a few travel photographers that ditched there 5d mark 2  to go to the olympus pen.    one of the big reasons is its very easy to carry a second body.
Nov 07 09 03:09 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ned Yeung
Posts: 838

I have and have had Oly DSLRs from as small as the E-410 and E-510 to as large as the E-3, and also have the E-P1 Pen; and I will say that there is absolutely no comparison in size between the mFT and FT.  So yes, I do believe the market is still strong and the Olympus DSLRs, even being the smallest in the world, will never come close to the compactness of a Pen.  smile

I haven't done it myself yet, but I've actually given my E-P1 Pen to another photographer on a location shoot, slapped on a High Grade Zuiko lens and hooked her up to the lights to shoot an entire full day model shoot.  big_smile  The photos turned out great, though of course the shooting was weird for her (as it would be for me, which is why I don't do it).

It really is great having such a capable camera in such compact form, which can even be used as a professional backup if need be (as long as you have an adapter for your lenses).  However, the lack of a viewfinder was the big deterrent to actually using it as such... which the E-P2 appears to address as did the Panasonic GF-1.
Nov 07 09 03:12 pm  Link  Quote 
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David Eckert
Posts: 261

i can't wait until someone really nails the small camera large sensor concept.

i'm just not sure i understand the upgrade. it's an ep1 in black, with a clip on EVF, and some art filters. it's more reasonable if they've brought the AF up to par. and would've been really great had they done all that and added a flash.

eventually someone will get it right. might be the ep3, or it might fall to the gf2...or the ricoh supposedly being announced next week...or the sony soon after that, the kodak in january, or nikon and canon when they can be bothered.

that's not to say this isn't a great little camera...but

until then i'm playing with film cameras and dollar store film...or lugging the big boy camera. lol
Nov 07 09 03:20 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ned Yeung
Posts: 838

David Eckert wrote:
i'm just not sure i understand the upgrade. it's an ep1 in black, with a clip on EVF, and some art filters. it's more reasonable if they've brought the AF up to par. and would've been really great had they done all that and added a flash.

Yes, it's a an E-P1 with a clip on EVF... Trust me, if you've used the E-P1 you'd know that's a huge upgrade.  big_smile  The AF was actually brought up to par with a firmware upgrade less than a month after production release, and I personally would never want a built-in flash on a camera.  wink  My E-P1 travels with an FL-36R hotshoe flash AND diffuser everywhere, and it still fits in a tiny bag no bigger than I've seen anybody carry a G10 in.  The EVF really was the big thing missing, in my opinion.

Nov 07 09 03:32 pm  Link  Quote 
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David Eckert
Posts: 261

Ned Yeung wrote:
Yes, it's a an E-P1 with a clip on EVF... Trust me, if you've used the E-P1 you'd know that's a huge upgrade.  big_smile  The AF was actually brought up to par with a firmware upgrade less than a month after production release, and I personally would never want a built-in flash on a camera.  wink  My E-P1 travels with an FL-36R hotshoe flash AND diffuser everywhere, and it still fits in a tiny bag no bigger than I've seen anybody carry a G10 in.  The EVF really was the biggest thing missing, in my opinion.

i'm glad i'm not off base on anything then. lol

definitely glad that the AF was brought up to par...makes it a very viable product. nothing is worse than an otherwise good product with something annoying about it.

the built in flash would be really awesome for strobist style shooting without having to stick a whole flash in the hotshoe, or having to choose between the evf and a flash to trigger lights.

Nov 07 09 03:36 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ned Yeung
Posts: 838

Yeah, you're right... if you're using an EVF on the hotshoe then triggering flash is a little problematic, lol.  They should give the E-P3 a PC sync port.  wink  Or maybe develop a new (non-swivel) EVF with a hotshoe on top.  xD
Nov 07 09 03:38 pm  Link  Quote 
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Griffin Design
Posts: 155

take the old fuji finepix s9000 body, give it a damn optical viewfinder, put an aps-c chip in it... make it 12 megapixels... slap an OLYmpus badge on it... give it the E-3 or Sony Alpha A700 AF system and call it a damn weekend! Offer a 18-60mm f2.8 (28-90mm equivalent) lens and we have a winner worth $1899.00 no doubt! clean images up to at least ISO1600 above that... your on you own lets not forget to make it studio flash compatible with a pc sync!!!


but i'll keep dreamin!
Nov 07 09 03:42 pm  Link  Quote 
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Sai Sivanesan
Posts: 142

David Eckert wrote:

i'm glad i'm not off base on anything then. lol

definitely glad that the AF was brought up to par...makes it a very viable product. nothing is worse than an otherwise good product with something annoying about it.

the built in flash would be really awesome for strobist style shooting without having to stick a whole flash in the hotshoe, or having to choose between the evf and a flash to trigger lights.

I played around with a Pen as well as the GF-1 and imho the Pen's AF was horribly slow.  the GF-1 was snappy.  took great shots too.  Wish they had a 14mm 1.2 prime.  i'd be a whore for that baby.

Nov 07 09 04:01 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ned Yeung
Posts: 838

Sai Sivanesan wrote:
I played around with a Pen as well as the GF-1 and imho the Pen's AF was horribly slow.  the GF-1 was snappy.  took great shots too.  Wish they had a 14mm 1.2 prime.  i'd be a whore for that baby.

The 20mm f/1.4 Panny would work for me.  wink  I still want that one for my Pen.

Nov 07 09 04:25 pm  Link  Quote 
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David Eckert
Posts: 261

Sai Sivanesan wrote:
I played around with a Pen as well as the GF-1 and imho the Pen's AF was horribly slow.

stop playing with my hopes and dreams!!!!! (i kid tongue)

having not played with a pen myself, i'm gonna let those who have hash it out.

someday there will be a camera in this category that is good enough that any issues with it will only be nitpicking. *sigh*

Nov 07 09 04:26 pm  Link  Quote 
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Blue Cube Imaging
Posts: 2,660

OUCH!

I love my EP1 (got one of the few white ones smile ) and am looking forward to the EP2 but damn, the price is $300 more than the EP1.

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Nov 07 09 05:37 pm  Link  Quote 
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AMBERCOOL
Posts: 1,238

I can't wait to get this.  I don't mind carrying around my point and shoot, but it's not as exciting when you already have a DSLR.  However, with this little toy I think I might leave the larger lenses at home and just take the EP-2 on a winterly stroll.
Nov 08 09 12:48 am  Link  Quote 
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Ned Yeung
Posts: 838

I don't know about the rest of you, but I feel naked without a camera by my side. Hence the E-P1, so I can still carry on like a normal human and not feel naked as a photographer.  wink

And if that time happens when there's a shot I just don't want to miss... I can take it AND use it afterwards... something I couldn't say with a point-and-shoot.  wink
Nov 08 09 09:14 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
212-GO-LUCKY
Posts: 417

I cant wait for the peeples to throw out their G9s and DP1/2s onto fleabay in their effort to get the latest Oly gizmo.

Fools gold>?
Nov 08 09 12:42 pm  Link  Quote 
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AndrewV
Posts: 2,089

I like the concept, but I'll wait when it costs less than a DSLR, which it should.
Nov 08 09 01:07 pm  Link  Quote 
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