I have 2 Tera's and quickly finding out that it will last me a little under 6 months of shooting before it gets filled...
So I'm guessing big photographers who shoot a lot should have like 4 times this many? Curious to see how much disk space everyone has, is it this normal? Also note I'm using 10MP.
unless your converting everything to tiff, and not deleting the bad shots, it should get you at least a year, then you need to start archiving to dvd or bluray disks
when I had a 39mp back and worked in 16 bit with many layers I always went through space like crazy, then I got into HD video and picked up a 4K RED One, and went through space like crazy, then I got a 60MP camera and worked in 16bit on many layers, and thought, this is not so bad, its far, far, far less than what HD video takes up, so it was not nearly as bad as I would have once thought
Is photography wrote: then you need to start archiving to dvd or bluray disks
Are you serious? Do you know how much time and labour it takes to shuffle 2 TB of disks in and out of a computer? Actually, 6 TB, because if you are archiving, you want three copies.
6,000 GB / 50 GB per bluray = 120 disks. 6,000 GB / 5 GB per DVD = 1,200 disks.
Is photography wrote: unless your converting everything to tiff, and not deleting the bad shots, it should get you at least a year, then you need to start archiving to dvd or bluray disks
Optical disks are generally not archival, FWIW. Be careful.
But...everybody always convert to TIFF,the last edited version...right?And how about those that save their files as PSD with many layers...these are huge.I'm
old school...I save to DVD...but don't shoot much.
Are you serious? Do you know how much time and labour it takes to shuffle 2 TB of disks in and out of a computer? Actually, 6 TB, because if you are archiving, you want three copies.
6,000 GB / 50 GB per bluray = 120 disks. 6,000 GB / 5 GB per DVD = 1,200 disks.
StephenEastwood wrote: when I had a 39mp back and worked in 16 bit with many layers I always went through space like crazy, then I got into HD video and picked up a 4K RED One, and went through space like crazy, then I got a 60MP camera and worked in 16bit on many layers, and thought, this is not so bad, its far, far, far less than what HD video takes up, so it was not nearly as bad as I would have once thought
A Alejandro wrote: 1 Terra, but I put everything on DVD too for backup, and after a while, I delete those files from the computer.
I delete my pr0n after a while. Bluray.x264 rips take up a lot of space. Its like, you delete a couple files and its an instant 30gbs free. Wow. I mean, that used to be entire naughty america site rips ya know, now its 3 movies.
and since when are we using the word "Tera's". I hope that doesn't catch on, its TB like tuberculosis.
RD Satellite wrote: The idea is that you archive as you go. Try again
No need to "try again". I already back up onto two external drives, as I go. Archiving means buying one new drive, making one copy onto it overnight, and then buying two more new drives for backup of the new material, as I go.
Retrieving photos does not mean searching through stacks of disks.
I currently have 14 external drives on my desk. Most not connected.... it's pretty nuts, and 5-6 shopping bags full of cd's dvd's in storage......redundant archives mostly
I have 2TB networked and 750GB on board. I get rid of the large unused files after 6mos. everything is back-up to disk and or archive HD that sit outside off line.
I shoot too much also, but bracket most of it as I shoot it, the unused are the ones dumped.
No need to "try again". I already back up onto two external drives, as I go. Archiving means buying one new drive, making one copy onto it overnight, and then buying two more new drives for backup of the new material, as I go.
Retrieving photos does not mean searching through stacks of disks.
Do you back up onto bluray? DVD?
Nope, I backup onto my NAS.. as I go. Windows 7 does it automatically, I set it do it at 3am.
I have a nas too it runs 5 500gig drives in a raid 5, it's my main backup.. when it's full, I'll start making 3 dvd's of each shoot exported from lightroom with it's catalog along for the ride.
www.newegg.com sells it, it;s made by thecus b5200 or something like that
I only have a 640GB in this machine, there's only 30 gigs free right now cause of the 300gigs of Anime and 100gigs of music. I have no idea what is using the other space.
My hard drives rarely last long. I've lost so much data over the years.
K E S L E R wrote: Wow 3 copies? thats pretty hardcore!
Nope. Standard operating procedure for digital data of any value. Hard lessons learned in database and software engineering. And spot check it once every six months.
Three copies since when your internal drive fails, you may discover one your external drives is wonky. Or (heaven forbid) your house/office burns down destroying your internal drive and one of your sets of external drives ... but fortunately you have your third data set offsite.
3 copies hardcore? Ask Francis Ford Coppola. He was in one of his properties in Chile, diligently keeping a backup copy of his data on an external drive. Thieves broke in and stole the computer and the drive. He did not have an offsite copy. Some of the work he lost went back eleven years.
My best 200 or so photos (portfolio for example) I keep on my system drive as well, which gets backed up twice as well, plus that set I have written out to DVD. So they exist in 7 copies, three of them offsite.
Oh, and by the way, I do this despite the fact that in the last 25 years or more of computing, programming, and digital photography I have never had a hard drive fail. One could fail one minute from now. I did have a 5 MB hard drive fail in 1980. Yes, 5 Megabytes on a 14 inch removable hard platter.
RD Satellite wrote: Nope, I backup onto my NAS.. as I go. Windows 7 does it automatically, I set it do it at 3am.
I see. You recommend other people backup on to DVD but don't do so yourself, using network-attached storage (hard drives). Conceivably you might have blurays as the medium there, but somehow I doubt it.
Haarvey Aardvark wrote: The "3 copies" reference is correct but was a bit vague here. One of the most common ways to do this is the Grandfather-Father-Son method.
Yes, that is actually four copies (1 internal, 1 overnight backup, 1 weekly backup, 1 monthly backup). Such a scheme is useful for data recovery even in the absence of a hard drive failure because an accidental erasure of important data might not be discovered for three weeks, say.
K E S L E R wrote: I have 2 Tera's and quickly finding out that it will last me a little under 6 months of shooting before it gets filled...
So I'm guessing big photographers who shoot a lot should have like 4 times this many? Curious to see how much disk space everyone has, is it this normal? Also note I'm using 10MP.
I have 3 x 1 TB disks. 1 for the OS, 1 for shoots, 1 for backups. I'm on 8MP camera.
I like to use a tool on Linux called rsnapshot. I suspect this is where Apple got the idea for Time Machine from. Basically all of the machines on my network get backed up frequently to a remote machine with a lot of disk space. I can go back in time by a matter of hours or days, even months (or years if I had enough space for the diffs). I can look at a point in time snapshot of my systems, and then syncronize that point in time to USB hard disks to take offsite.
I have 2 500 GB external Harddrives.. A 500 GB harddrive on my Laptop.. Right now im only using 1 external Harddrive and my laptop.. I back up to DVD and im planning on getting a blu-ray burner around christmas time.. I've learned just recently that it is soooo much more cheaper to backup then to lose the pictures you've worked so hard taking..
