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HarmonyCox
Posts: 7
London, England, United Kingdom


Can anyone please verify if this guy is a tog for Playboy? Some things have not rung true, for example he goes on about Photoshop, but I thought Playboy refused to use it.I just want to check, before I travel to Manchester to shoot.

Thanks people in advance
Dec 01 09 12:56 pm  Link  Quote 
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PYPI FASHION
Posts: 36,332
San Francisco, California, US


HarmonyCox wrote:
Can anyone please verify if this guy is a tog for Playboy? Some things have not rung true, for example he goes on about Photoshop, but I thought Playboy refused to use it.I just want to check, before I travel to Manchester to shoot.

Thanks people in advance

Model Mayhem is not Playboy and cannot do such verifications for you. Playboy has been retouching images as far back as the Paleozoic era. You need to do a better job of check references than asking in the forums. Rules prevent anyone from saying anything negative about other members.

Dec 01 09 01:03 pm  Link  Quote 
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Patrick Walberg
Posts: 42,573
Salinas, California, US


You've got the "look" for Playboy!  I am sorry that I don't know the photographer, nor can answer if he is legit or not.   But I'm sure somone here can!
Dec 01 09 01:03 pm  Link  Quote 
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Rachel Jay
Posts: 20,333
Hoffman Estates, Illinois, US


Have you called or written Playboy and asked them to verify?

After all, they're the only ones who can...
Dec 01 09 01:04 pm  Link  Quote 
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Patrick Walberg
Posts: 42,573
Salinas, California, US


PYPI FASHION wrote:

Model Mayhem is not Playboy and cannot do such verifications for you. Playboy has been retouching images as far back as the Paleozoic era. You need to do a better job of check references than asking in the forums. Rules prevent anyone from saying anything negative about other members.

I don't think the photographer in question is a member here.

Dec 01 09 01:04 pm  Link  Quote 
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PYPI FASHION
Posts: 36,332
San Francisco, California, US


Patrick Walberg wrote:

I don't think the photographer in question is a member here.

Does not really matter. Anyone saying he is or is not a Playboy photographer here does not help her. I doubt she has even verified he is who he claims to be. I can say I'm David Mecey and it'll verify with Playboy. All that proves is David Mecey is a contributing photographer for Playboy.

Dec 01 09 01:09 pm  Link  Quote 
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HarmonyCox
Posts: 7
London, England, United Kingdom


PYPI FASHION wrote:

Model Mayhem is not Playboy and cannot do such verifications for you. Playboy has been retouching images as far back as the Paleozoic era. You need to do a better job of check references than asking in the forums. Rules prevent anyone from saying anything negative about other members.

It seemed a good place to start, seeing that he approached me via the site. Sorry I bothered. I just wondered if anyone knew of him.

Dec 01 09 01:12 pm  Link  Quote 
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Rachel Jay
Posts: 20,333
Hoffman Estates, Illinois, US


HarmonyCox wrote:
It seemed a good place to start, seeing that he approached me via the site. Sorry I bothered. I just wondered if anyone knew of him.

If he contacted you here can you start by checking with others in his area, as well as models and stylists he has credited in his portfolio.

However, your best bet would be to contact Playboy direct.  If he's shooting for them, they'll be able to verify.

ETA: It might be a good idea to read the forum rules.  They're linked at the top of the forum page.

Dec 01 09 01:14 pm  Link  Quote 
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Patrick Walberg
Posts: 42,573
Salinas, California, US


PYPI FASHION wrote:

Does not really matter. Anyone saying he is or is not a Playboy photographer here does not help her. I doubt she has even verified he is who he claims to be. I can say I'm David Mecey and it'll verify with Playboy. All that proves is David Mecey is a contributing photographer for Playboy.

I'm sorry, Pat, I googled and even though this is not an "outting" exactly, this thread should be lock and deleted.  This person is indeed a member of MM. 

OP, you will have to use other resources than to post asking about him here because we are not allowed to "out" ... or say.

Dec 01 09 01:16 pm  Link  Quote 
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Patrick Walberg
Posts: 42,573
Salinas, California, US


HarmonyCox wrote:
It seemed a good place to start, seeing that he approached me via the site. Sorry I bothered. I just wondered if anyone knew of him.

No, it's not that you did a terrible thing by asking, it is that it is against the rules to "out" a model or photographer member in the forums.  In other words, you are going to have to contact people near him, google him, and do your own research.  You can ask him for references too.  If you have a feeling that he is not legit, go with your hunch.

Dec 01 09 01:20 pm  Link  Quote 
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PYPI FASHION
Posts: 36,332
San Francisco, California, US


I'm not sure what sales pitch you were given but someone who list Playboy as a credit simply means they have shot something that appeared in Playboy. It does not mean you will get into Playboy if you shoot with this person.
Dec 01 09 01:20 pm  Link  Quote 
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Patrick Walberg
Posts: 42,573
Salinas, California, US


PYPI FASHION wrote:
I'm not sure what sales pitch you were given but someone who list Playboy as a credit simply means they have shot something that appeared in Playboy. It does not mean you will get into Playboy if you shoot with this person.

Yes, many photographers will post "brand name" publications, but it's not that hard to get a picture published in freelance sections, etc.    I don't bother to list magazines or newspapers I've been published in because most of them no longer exist anymore!

Dec 01 09 01:23 pm  Link  Quote 
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GPS Studio Services
Posts: 35,466
San Francisco, California, US


HarmonyCox wrote:
Can anyone please verify if this guy is a tog for Playboy? Some things have not rung true, for example he goes on about Photoshop, but I thought Playboy refused to use it.I just want to check, before I travel to Manchester to shoot.

Thanks people in advance

FYI, Playboy Photoshops all the time, but in general, they are going to want photographers to deliver images that aren't Photoshopped or have minor retouching such as white balance and contrast adjustments.  The exception, of course, would be if you were a Photoshop artist and they were purchasing a cartoon or surrealistic scene.  The reality is, that nobody wants to Photoshop an image that is already shopped.  They expect you to be a good photographer and to deliver to them decent images out of the camera.

Dec 01 09 01:24 pm  Link  Quote 
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PYPI FASHION
Posts: 36,332
San Francisco, California, US


Ask yourself this. Why is someone who have credits as Vogue, Elle, l'officiel, I.D. Playboy, GQ, FHM, Stern, Nerve, Vice, Nike be contacting so many models per day on Model Mayhem that they hit their quota and have to tag models to ask them to email him?
Dec 01 09 01:25 pm  Link  Quote 
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PYPI FASHION
Posts: 36,332
San Francisco, California, US


Here's something else to consider. Why would the real Michael Dowson ask Model Mayhem members to contact him at m_dowson@hotmail.com when he clearly has his own domain and email at http://www.mikedowson.com/contact.htm ?
Dec 01 09 01:31 pm  Link  Quote 
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HarmonyCox
Posts: 7
London, England, United Kingdom


PYPI FASHION wrote:
I'm not sure what sales pitch you were given but someone who list Playboy as a credit simply means they have shot something that appeared in Playboy. It does not mean you will get into Playboy if you shoot with this person.

He invited me to test for French Playboy and others, it is a fair distance to travel if he is just a GWC

Dec 01 09 01:40 pm  Link  Quote 
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PYPI FASHION
Posts: 36,332
San Francisco, California, US


HarmonyCox wrote:

He invited me to test for French Playboy and others, it is a fair distance to travel if he is just a GWC

I already did a lot of the work for you. All you have to do is read and act on it.

Dec 01 09 01:44 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ohio Images-Sara
Posts: 290
Cleveland, Ohio, US


Ms.Harmony,i'd be kissing PYPI's butt thats awful nice of him to do all that! smile
Dec 01 09 01:50 pm  Link  Quote 
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Rachel Jay
Posts: 20,333
Hoffman Estates, Illinois, US


Ohio Images-Sara wrote:
Ms.Harmony,i'd be kissing PYPI's butt thats awful nice of him to do all that! smile

WORD!!

Dec 01 09 01:59 pm  Link  Quote 
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PYPI FASHION
Posts: 36,332
San Francisco, California, US


Ohio Images-Sara wrote:
Ms.Harmony,i'd be kissing PYPI's butt thats awful nice of him to do all that! smile

It's two minutes on Google and some common sense. Anyone could have done that.

Dec 01 09 02:02 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
HarmonyCox
Posts: 7
London, England, United Kingdom


PYPI FASHION wrote:
It's two minutes on Google and some common sense. Anyone could have done that.

I didn't find anything reassuring, that's why I posted. Sorry again,I'm sure

Dec 01 09 02:04 pm  Link  Quote 
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Athena Photo
Posts: 66
Pomona, California, US


When are people going to realize that Playboy isn't Playboy anymore?  It was revolutionary and relevant at one point.  Now it's just a drop in the bucket, and more of an anachronism than anything.
Dec 01 09 02:09 pm  Link  Quote 
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Fifi La Bouche
Posts: 2
Preston, England, United Kingdom


I wouldnt trust this guy in the slightest...i have exactly the same thoughts as you...and googled his email address ending up here!

also...it makes me a bit scepitcal that he friend requests you...and doesnt send an initial message. I think its bull that everyday of the week he sends more than 5 messages...and if he as worked with all the people he says he has then im sure it would be in his interest and his budget to upgrade to VIP member.

It makes me even more sceptical that he refuses to discuss via propositions via MM...he asks you to call or email him privately...obviously so if he gets report MM can't investigate in to his messages!

also...if he was a photographer that has worked with the people he says don't you think he would have his own website...so customers, that arent members on here, can contact him.

Infact I have googled him looking for a potential website and all that comes back is a link to here.

I'm staying well away!
Dec 02 09 07:07 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Fifi La Bouche
Posts: 2
Preston, England, United Kingdom


oh and also...this guy seems quite confused when I mentioned 'levels of work'

and replied saying he didn't know what i was talking about????

apart from the meaning of this phrase being pretty obvious (i mean no one has ever had to tell me what that phrase means) your not telling me he has never come across that phrase after all his time in the industry...

hhhhmmmmmmm...i smell a big fat rat!!!!
Dec 02 09 07:23 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Wanyberk
Posts: 11
Paris, Île-de-France, France


i have met him
don't worry
he is real
Nov 23 10 08:38 am  Link  Quote 
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Photographer
PashaPhoto
Posts: 9,726
Brooklyn, New York, US


ghost thread smile
Nov 23 10 08:41 am  Link  Quote 
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M E L U X I N E
Posts: 1,203
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


Worked with him. Very real.
Dec 06 10 05:41 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Alissa p
Posts: 10
London, England, United Kingdom


I've been working with Mike for nearly two years now. He has shot majority of my port and helped me to get paid work quite a lot of times. I met him through MM when I had no experience whatsoever and was very patient with me. Definitely real and very talanted.
He has indeed worked for Playboy, GQ as well as Russian Vogue and receives work offers regularily. His website is www.mikedowson.com, you can see his publications there, I am surprised some people here couldn't find it.
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