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-Jen-
Posts: 46,795
Howell, Michigan, US


pervert.

I was like yikes  ohhh myyy god.

If yer gonna be a pervert, be secretive about it.  Idiot.
Jan 06 10 01:17 pm  Link  Quote 
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Elizabeth Claret
Posts: 56,032
Yelm, Washington, US


-Jen- wrote:
pervert.

I was like yikes  ohhh myyy god.

If yer gonna be a pervert, be secretive about it.  Idiot.

I look down my shirt all the time.

The way I look at it, if you don't want people to look at your boobs, don't wear shirts that show them off. Wear a baggy sweater, no one will even know you have boobs then.

Jan 06 10 01:19 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ross Photo
Posts: 1,744
Fort Collins, Colorado, US


Hehehe...

Just give him a business card with your portfolio address on it.
Jan 06 10 01:19 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ballistic Penguin Photo
Posts: 11,367
Kansas City, Missouri, US


uhmmmm i....ummm...i...errrrr...i gotta go
Jan 06 10 01:19 pm  Link  Quote 
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Engel Schrei
Posts: 14,455
Indianapolis, Indiana, US


When I get bored or if I'm concentrating really hard on something, I'll drum my fingers on the top of my boobs.

My old boss used to yell at me for it, cause it made him keep looking.

Apparently the finger drumming made my boobs bounce a little. Who'da thunk? big_smile
Jan 06 10 01:22 pm  Link  Quote 
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Elizabeth Claret
Posts: 56,032
Yelm, Washington, US


Engel Schrei wrote:
When I get bored or if I'm concentrating really hard on something, I'll drum my fingers on the top of my boobs.

My old boss used to yell at me for it, cause it made him keep looking.

Apparently the finger drumming made my boobs bounce a little. Who'da thunk? big_smile

I use mine as an arm rest....It's usually not too awkward unless I'm wearing a super low shirt, or I'm naked.

I did it yesterday while nude, reviewing photos with the photographer. Didn't realize I was even doing it until he's like "Um, did you, uh, want to um...put a robe on or something?"

Jan 06 10 01:23 pm  Link  Quote 
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Giacomo Cirrincioni
Posts: 20,602
New York, New York, US


Please explain this to me, and I'm not being sarcastic by the way, I'm asking this genuinely.

You are a nude mode (which I think is great, btw).  You offer yourself as an object of art, or desire, or of commerce, etc.  I'm sure you have your own specific view on it but, as with any art or visual depiction, much of the viewpoint is defined by the viewer.  You know this.  You're ok with this.  Presumably, one of the reasons you do it is because you are, justifiably so, proud of your body. 

That is ok.  You are not a pervert.  Presumably, those looking at your portfolio here are not perverts either, even if they are doing so to just appreciate your breasts.  I can't imagine you have a problem with that based on posts made in SF2.

So then why is it that if your boss, or any male for that matter, shows a similar appreciation for your breasts, that he immediately gets labeled a pervert?
Jan 06 10 01:23 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ross Photo
Posts: 1,744
Fort Collins, Colorado, US


Paramour Productions wrote:
Please explain this to me, and I'm not being sarcastic by the way, I'm asking this genuinely.

You are a nude mode (which I think is great, btw).  You offer yourself as an object of art, or desire, or of commerce, etc.  I'm sure you have your own specific view on it but, as with any art or visual depiction, much of the viewpoint is defined by the viewer.  You know this.  You're ok with this.  Presumably, one of the reasons you do it is because you are, justifiably so, proud of your body. 

That is ok.  You are not a pervert.  Presumably, those looking at your portfolio here are not perverts either, even if they are doing so to just appreciate your breasts.  I can't imagine you have a problem with that based on posts made in SF2.

So then why is it that if your boss, or any male for that matter, shows a similar appreciation for your breasts, that he immediately gets labeled a pervert?

My guess is because she's at work!!! Not out on the town... Not posing for images... Work. I don't think that is the place to oogle your subordinates.

Jan 06 10 01:26 pm  Link  Quote 
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Elizabeth Claret
Posts: 56,032
Yelm, Washington, US


Bill Ross Photography wrote:

My guess is because she's at work!!! Not out on the town... Not posing for images... Work. I don't think that is the place to oogle your subordinates.

Her boss is a man. She has nice boobs. If she's wearing a shirt that in even the slightest way reveals them, he's going to look. Hell, I'd probably look.

That doesn't make him a pervert, it makes him a guy. If he was leering over her breathing heavy and staring wide eyed....then maybe he'd be a pervert.

Jan 06 10 01:27 pm  Link  Quote 
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Admiral Frog
The Fist wielding The Hammer that's ready to pounce on those that live in the murky shadows of pestilentialness.
Posts: 29,088
Roswell, Georgia, US


Engel Schrei wrote:
When I get bored or if I'm concentrating really hard on something, I'll drum my fingers on the top of my boobs.

My old boss used to yell at me for it, cause it made him keep looking.

Apparently the finger drumming made my boobs bounce a little. Who'da thunk? big_smile

I touch myself when I am bored too. And I am bored A LOT!!!

Jan 06 10 01:27 pm  Link  Quote 
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Giacomo Cirrincioni
Posts: 20,602
New York, New York, US


Bill Ross Photography wrote:

My guess is because she's at work!!! Not out on the town... Not posing for images... Work. I don't think that is the place to oogle your subordinates.

And that part I get.  The fact that he wasn't more discreet might make him many things, but a pervert?  I don't know you but I'm a guy.  I like women.  I like to look at beautiful women.  I check them out.  That, in and of itself, doesn't make me a pervert.  We have a really fucked up view of this in this country that I find rather bizarre.  I didn't realize how much so until I lived in Europe where people much more readily accept who they are.

Jan 06 10 01:29 pm  Link  Quote 
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Giacomo Cirrincioni
Posts: 20,602
New York, New York, US


Elizabeth Claret wrote:

Her boss is a man. She has nice boobs. If she's wearing a shirt that in even the slightest way reveals them, he's going to look. Hell, I'd probably look.

That doesn't make him a pervert, it makes him a guy. If he was leering over her breathing heavy and staring wide eyed....then maybe he'd be a pervert.

Thank you.

Jan 06 10 01:30 pm  Link  Quote 
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-Jen-
Posts: 46,795
Howell, Michigan, US


Elizabeth Claret wrote:

Her boss is a man. She has nice boobs. If she's wearing a shirt that in even the slightest way reveals them, he's going to look. Hell, I'd probably look.

That doesn't make him a pervert, it makes him a guy. If he was leering over her breathing heavy and staring wide eyed....then maybe he'd be a pervert.

I was busy working on a project and leaning over.....he purposely came over to talk to me about something completely off the wall.

I looked up asking "what" (he mumbles)

Then I saw him look as he was trying to come up with his question...

and I rolled my eyes and fixed my shirt (which is not really all that low)

He's my boss.  He's yucky.

just...no.

Jan 06 10 01:34 pm  Link  Quote 
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Fergy
Posts: 22,288
Fenton, Michigan, US


Bill Ross Photography wrote:

My guess is because she's at work!!! Not out on the town... Not posing for images... Work. I don't think that is the place to oogle your subordinates.

This.  She works in Government affairs.  They need to be professional.  He has been unprofessional before, if you are going to oogle, well then do it.  But don't get caught doing it.

Jan 06 10 01:34 pm  Link  Quote 
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Elizabeth Claret
Posts: 56,032
Yelm, Washington, US


-Jen- wrote:

I was busy working on a project and leaning over.....he purposely came over to talk to me about something completely off the wall.

I looked up asking "what" (he mumbles)

Then I saw him look as he was trying to come up with his question...

and I rolled my eyes and fixed my shirt (which is not really all that low)

He's my boss.  He's yucky.

just...no.

Yeah, that's kind of perverted.

Just like, normal, guy glancing isn't, which is what it sounded like at first.

Jan 06 10 01:36 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ross Photo
Posts: 1,744
Fort Collins, Colorado, US


I like women too.  I've worked with some beautiful women. A little self-discipline will go a long way.  I understand that guy's eyes wander... God knows, mine have. Sounds to me like her boss positioned himself purposely so he could get a "view" (I may have read too much into this post but...).

That kind of stuff gets so many men in trouble at work... Treat people with respect.
Jan 06 10 01:37 pm  Link  Quote 
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-Jen-
Posts: 46,795
Howell, Michigan, US


Elizabeth Claret wrote:

Yeah, that's kind of perverted.

Just like, normal, guy glancing isn't, which is what it sounded like at first.

Yeah a little glance is no big deal.  It happens all the time (especially if I'm cold)

Jan 06 10 01:50 pm  Link  Quote 
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Paul Bryson Photography
Posts: 47,938
Hollywood, Florida, US


Maybe he was just deciding how much of a raise you'll get this year.
Jan 06 10 01:50 pm  Link  Quote 
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Elizabeth Claret
Posts: 56,032
Yelm, Washington, US


-Jen- wrote:

Yeah a little glance is no big deal.  It happens all the time (especially if I'm cold)

Well, with your coat hanger nipples, I'm not surprised. big_smile

That's like my Aunt, who has, like Super OMG F boobs or something, wearing a low cut shirt, and then telling my mom that my stepfather kept staring at her boobs.

My mom turned around and was like "Jenni, I can't stop staring at your boobs!"

Jan 06 10 01:52 pm  Link  Quote 
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Bombadil
Posts: 12,832
Sykesville, Maryland, US


Boobs are soooo hard not to look at.

I see them sometimes and tell myself 'don't look at her boobs!'

Then I think maybe 'just a peek.'

Then I say 'don't look at the boobs!'

I go through this cycle a few times and force myself to walk away feeling like a perv.
Jan 06 10 01:55 pm  Link  Quote 
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Star Child
Posts: 39,265
Nashville, Tennessee, US


Paramour Productions wrote:
Please explain this to me, and I'm not being sarcastic by the way, I'm asking this genuinely.

You are a nude mode (which I think is great, btw).  You offer yourself as an object of art, or desire, or of commerce, etc.  I'm sure you have your own specific view on it but, as with any art or visual depiction, much of the viewpoint is defined by the viewer.  You know this.  You're ok with this.  Presumably, one of the reasons you do it is because you are, justifiably so, proud of your body. 

That is ok.  You are not a pervert.  Presumably, those looking at your portfolio here are not perverts either, even if they are doing so to just appreciate your breasts.  I can't imagine you have a problem with that based on posts made in SF2.

So then why is it that if your boss, or any male for that matter, shows a similar appreciation for your breasts, that he immediately gets labeled a pervert?

I'm thinking that turtle neck she was wearing at the time was just a tad loose and it caught him by surprise. lol

Jan 06 10 02:16 pm  Link  Quote 
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Kincaid Blackwood
Posts: 23,229
Atlanta, Georgia, US


-Jen- wrote:
pervert.

I was like yikes  ohhh myyy god.

If yer gonna be a pervert, be secretive about it.  Idiot.

Why be secretive about it?  Perhaps he prefers that everything be out in the open.





Like yer tits, for instance...

Jan 06 10 02:25 pm  Link  Quote 
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Giacomo Cirrincioni
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New York, New York, US


big_smile big_smile big_smile
Jan 06 10 02:27 pm  Link  Quote 
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Nikolette Amani
Posts: 12,567
Augusta, Georgia, US


my boss looks at my bewbs.  He likes them... and admits it.  He also likes the new butt I got from being pregnant.  He says "Just because I'm on a diet (to say that he's married) doesn't mean I can't look at the menu (he can still check out the ladies)."

Where we used to work he would hit me on the behind with a rubberband alllll the time because he wanted to see if it would jiggle at all.  He holds a higher position at our new place of business... so no more rubberband popping.

He admits to being a dirty old man (not very old)... so as long as we have that out in the open... i'm pretty cool (just as long as he doesn't do these things around other co workers).

Edit...
and I don't wear low cut shirts much... but when I do I never get mad when people look... i mean they are right there... I look at women with big  boobs too... i don't think people can much help it lol
Jan 06 10 03:07 pm  Link  Quote 
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Andy Durazo
Posts: 24,415
Los Angeles, California, US


-Jen- wrote:
pervert.

I was like yikes  ohhh myyy god.

If yer gonna be a pervert, be secretive about it.  Idiot.

I think the point here is discretion.

Jan 06 10 03:34 pm  Link  Quote 
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UnoMundo
Posts: 47,527
Olympia, Washington, US


-Jen- wrote:

Yeah a little glance is no big deal.  It happens all the time (especially if I'm cold)

Jen at work, and you wonder why ?
http://btaw.juggcrew.com/29/movies/f/01.jpg

Jan 06 10 03:40 pm  Link  Quote 
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SPierce Photography
Posts: 19,331
Amherst, Massachusetts, US


ewwww to your boss! yikes

you should go to work for my roomate. i walk around basically hanging out half the day (or at least showing quite a bit of chest, minus the nipple and he doesn't even notice. I guess that's what I get for shacking up with a roomie who prefers clothed women over nudes! big_smile
Jan 06 10 04:21 pm  Link  Quote 
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PYPI FASHION
Posts: 36,332
San Francisco, California, US


He just wants to get breast implants and was checking out the work.
Jan 06 10 04:22 pm  Link  Quote 
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SLE Photo
Posts: 113
Orlando, Florida, US


See, the things you never had to worry about before the surgery!
Next time someone posts a "should I get a boob job?" thread I'll need to say "Well it can lead to your boss staring down your shirt."
lol
Jan 06 10 04:35 pm  Link  Quote 
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Vivus Hussein Denuo
Posts: 63,314
New York, New York, US


Then don't have such nice boobs, silly!
Jan 06 10 04:40 pm  Link  Quote 
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Zebadiah _MI
Posts: 13,366
Ann Arbor, Michigan, US


Fergy wrote:
This.  She works a job.  They need to be professional.

fixed it for you smile

Especially a manager.   You have a right not to be harassed at work.

Jan 06 10 04:46 pm  Link  Quote 
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Vivus Hussein Denuo
Posts: 63,314
New York, New York, US


Fergy wrote:

This.  She works in Government affairs.  They need to be professional.  He has been unprofessional before, if you are going to oogle, well then do it.  But don't get caught doing it.

I ogle, but I never oogle.  I have my limits.  smile

Jan 06 10 05:10 pm  Link  Quote 
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UnoMundo
Posts: 47,527
Olympia, Washington, US


-Jen- wrote:
pervert.

I was like yikes  ohhh myyy god.

If yer gonna be a pervert, be secretive about it.  Idiot.

Lucky he was not trying to look down your buttcrack

Jan 06 10 05:14 pm  Link  Quote 
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Lawrence Guy
Posts: 17,584
LAKE PEEKSKILL, New York, US


You caught him in a cleavage peek.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvGqPencrJQ
Jan 06 10 05:21 pm  Link  Quote 
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Carlos Occidental
Posts: 10,541
Pasadena, California, US


Um....Like...maybe don't wear shirts your boss can look down?
Jan 06 10 05:22 pm  Link  Quote 
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-Jen-
Posts: 46,795
Howell, Michigan, US


Charles West wrote:
Um....Like...maybe don't wear shirts your boss can look down?

My shirt is not that low.

I was leaning over working on a project and he came up to talk to me.

I do not do any work for him.
There is no reason for him to come talk to me, he never does any other time he just happened to today.

Jan 06 10 05:44 pm  Link  Quote 
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Damon Banner
Posts: 85,065
Hayward, California, US


Engel Schrei wrote:
When I get bored or if I'm concentrating really hard on something, I'll drum my fingers on the top of my boobs.

My old boss used to yell at me for it, cause it made him keep looking.

Apparently the finger drumming made my boobs bounce a little. Who'da thunk? big_smile

can i do that when I get bored?

Jan 06 10 05:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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Damon Banner
Posts: 85,065
Hayward, California, US


Whitney Dee En wrote:
my boss looks at my bewbs.  He likes them... and admits it.  He also likes the new butt I got from being pregnant.  He says "Just because I'm on a diet (to say that he's married) doesn't mean I can't look at the menu (he can still check out the ladies)."

Where we used to work he would hit me on the behind with a rubberband alllll the time because he wanted to see if it would jiggle at all.  He holds a higher position at our new place of business... so no more rubberband popping.

He admits to being a dirty old man (not very old)... so as long as we have that out in the open... i'm pretty cool (just as long as he doesn't do these things around other co workers).

Edit...
and I don't wear low cut shirts much... but when I do I never get mad when people look... i mean they are right there... I look at women with big  boobs too... i don't think people can much help it lol

borat

*shoots a rubber band at you*

Jan 06 10 05:49 pm  Link  Quote 
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Amber Skyline
Posts: 2,082
Reading, England, United Kingdom


Heehee, thats not /too/ bad. On a train once the guy opposite me took a picture of my legs. The best part was he was pretending to text, but I heard the shutter noise! lol He looked pretty embarrassed, and got off at the next stop. xD
Jan 06 10 05:53 pm  Link  Quote 
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Reflected
Posts: 16,035
New York, New York, US


Kitty Mutant wrote:
Heehee, thats not /too/ bad. On a train once the guy opposite me took a picture of my legs. The best part was he was pretending to text, but I heard the shutter noise! lol He looked pretty embarrassed, and got off at the next stop. xD

Meh...  I always look that way.  And that really was my stop!!!

Jan 06 10 05:58 pm  Link  Quote 
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