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Melissa Wilkinson
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Clearwater, Florida, US


http://www.avedapdx.com/Hot-Tools-Marcel-Curling-Ir.gif

I just purchased one of these (hot tools professional 3/4 marcel curling iron). I'm trying to find an instructional video or something to show me the proper way to hold and open the clasp easily. There isn't much on youtube on it and google hasn't been much help. Any help or advice would be appreciated.

Thank you,
Melissa
Jan 11 10 07:25 pm  Link  Quote 
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The Photoshop Junkie
Posts: 300
New York, New York, US


You just hold it down tight and  the skinnier barrel twists making it easier for it to glide around your hand  and that makes the iron twist around. Not that that hard it just takes practice. I love marcel irons.

Make sure to not touch the tip that's how alot of people get burned by them they forget there's no platic tip.
Jan 11 10 07:37 pm  Link  Quote 
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Melissa Wilkinson
Posts: 1,375
Clearwater, Florida, US


The Photoshop Junkie wrote:
You just hold it down tight and the twist the skinnier barrel around your hand  and that makes the iron twist around. Not that that hard it just takes practice. I love marcel irons.

Make sure to not touch the tip that's how alot of people get burned by them they forget there's no platic tip.

See my problem is figuring out how to make the clasp part open using one hand. I'm not sure how to position my fingers.

Jan 11 10 07:40 pm  Link  Quote 
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DarkSlide
Posts: 2,184
Alexandria, Virginia, US


Instructional video is on the Marcel homepage -- use your fingers on both arms as she is doing with the symmetrical iron.

http://marcelcurlingiron.com/
Jan 11 10 07:44 pm  Link  Quote 
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Melissa Wilkinson
Posts: 1,375
Clearwater, Florida, US


DarkSlide wrote:
Instructional video is on the Marcel homepage -- use your fingers on both arms as she is doing with the symmetrical iron.

http://marcelcurlingiron.com/

So index and pink finger below and ring and middle finger on top is the correct way to hold it. I guess I just need to practice.

Jan 11 10 07:58 pm  Link  Quote 
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TheMakeupMan
Posts: 3,752
Los Angeles, California, US


click  click click click
Jan 11 10 08:00 pm  Link  Quote 
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A J T
Posts: 3,113
Brooklyn, New York, US


Ok, I had to get mine out and do it in order to describe it. One of those cases of instinctive movements now that I don't even think about, now...

So, make sure the switch next to the dial is in the "unlocked" position so that the casing should now roll. Also make sure the smaller rod isn't sticking so that it rolls as well. just practice rolling it in your hand for a little while. It takes a little while to get used to the motion, and your hand will probably tire out quickly until it gets stronger. Don't let that discourage you, though--it happens pretty quickly.

Once you've got that down, practice "clicking" the rod by bracing like in the picture below (how I do it, though there are other options if you find another way more comfortable) and flexing your fingers back and forth. Practice until you can click it with small controlled motions.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/XandersLens/2010-01-11230441.jpg

To curl your hair, you'll start wrapping it by clamping in the middle of the shaft (without creasing it on the edges of the rod) and wrapping it around one and a half times with good tension. Then you'll "click" the rod a little bit to move down the hair and wrap a couple more times, "clicking" until the ends of the hair are wrapped around the barrel, then roll it up as high as you like. Practice this with a cool iron so that you don't burn yourself or your hair. Hold it for about 5 to 10 seconds. Loosen it by rolling back a little bit, then clicking the rod so that the whole roll gets loose and falls off the end of the rod. Let it cool and then finger comb or brush it, depending on the finish you want.

Hopefully that makes sense and helps some, lol.
Jan 11 10 08:17 pm  Link  Quote 
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Tai Pix
Posts: 61
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


Alexander Tome wrote:
Ok, I had to get mine out and do it in order to describe it. One of those cases of instinctive movements now that I don't even think about, now...

So, make sure the switch next to the dial is in the "unlocked" position so that the casing should now roll. Also make sure the smaller rod isn't sticking so that it rolls as well. just practice rolling it in your hand for a little while. It takes a little while to get used to the motion, and your hand will probably tire out quickly until it gets stronger. Don't let that discourage you, though--it happens pretty quickly.

Once you've got that down, practice "clicking" the rod by bracing like in the picture below (how I do it, though there are other options if you find another way more comfortable) and flexing your fingers back and forth. Practice until you can click it with small controlled motions.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/XandersLens/2010-01-11230441.jpg

To curl your hair, you'll start wrapping it by clamping in the middle of the shaft (without creasing it on the edges of the rod) and wrapping it around one and a half times with good tension. Then you'll "click" the rod a little bit to move down the hair and wrap a couple more times, "clicking" until the ends of the hair are wrapped around the barrel, then roll it up as high as you like. Practice this with a cool iron so that you don't burn yourself or your hair. Hold it for about 5 to 10 seconds. Loosen it by rolling back a little bit, then clicking the rod so that the whole roll gets loose and falls off the end of the rod. Let it cool and then finger comb or brush it, depending on the finish you want.

Hopefully that makes sense and helps some, lol.

Awesome! I can use it but I don't think I can explain like you did... Two thumbs up smile

Jan 11 10 09:14 pm  Link  Quote 
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Perfectly Imperfect You
Posts: 107
Scotch Plains, New Jersey, US


Alexander Tome wrote:
Ok, I had to get mine out and do it in order to describe it. One of those cases of instinctive movements now that I don't even think about, now...

So, make sure the switch next to the dial is in the "unlocked" position so that the casing should now roll. Also make sure the smaller rod isn't sticking so that it rolls as well. just practice rolling it in your hand for a little while. It takes a little while to get used to the motion, and your hand will probably tire out quickly until it gets stronger. Don't let that discourage you, though--it happens pretty quickly.

Once you've got that down, practice "clicking" the rod by bracing like in the picture below (how I do it, though there are other options if you find another way more comfortable) and flexing your fingers back and forth. Practice until you can click it with small controlled motions.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/XandersLens/2010-01-11230441.jpg

To curl your hair, you'll start wrapping it by clamping in the middle of the shaft (without creasing it on the edges of the rod) and wrapping it around one and a half times with good tension. Then you'll "click" the rod a little bit to move down the hair and wrap a couple more times, "clicking" until the ends of the hair are wrapped around the barrel, then roll it up as high as you like. Practice this with a cool iron so that you don't burn yourself or your hair. Hold it for about 5 to 10 seconds. Loosen it by rolling back a little bit, then clicking the rod so that the whole roll gets loose and falls off the end of the rod. Let it cool and then finger comb or brush it, depending on the finish you want.

Hopefully that makes sense and helps some, lol.

Explained perfectly! For the NJ State board exam for cosmo, we had to do several things with our marcel irons- if we didn't "click" the iron, we failed! (even though it wasn't actually on..not clicking means the hair is burning) So click away, and remember that there is NO cool tip to hold it by. Certainly not easy the first time you try, but the curls are gorgeous!

Jan 11 10 10:36 pm  Link  Quote 
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Nika Vaughan
Posts: 1,015
Chicago, Illinois, US


Alexander Tome wrote:
...Once you've got that down, practice "clicking" the rod by bracing like in the picture below (how I do it, though there are other options if you find another way more comfortable) and flexing your fingers back and forth. Practice until you can click it with small controlled motions....Then you'll "click" the rod a little bit to move down the hair and wrap a couple more times, "clicking" until the ends of the hair are wrapped around the barrel, then roll it up as high as you like. ...Hopefully that makes sense and helps some, lol.
Perfectly Imperfect You wrote:
... if we didn't "click" the iron, we failed! (even though it wasn't actually on..not clicking means the hair is burning)

Alexander, love this.  Thank you!  But, can you make a video?!  What's with all this "clicking"??  I'm good with holding the clamp between the fingers, and I feel like mine clicks when I'm working (I guess?), but I also tend to do a lot of wrapping hair to the iron and bypassing the clamp altogether... hmm

Jan 11 10 10:57 pm  Link  Quote 
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TorontoMakeupArtist
Posts: 1,278
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


It takes so much getting used to. Alexander provided a perfect example.

i remember having a terrible day the night i was learning that in class and burning myself one too many times and just storming out of the class. i was such a wiener. i had to go back and apologise to my teacher for being ridiculous and practice the heck out of curling for the week between classes so i would never embarass myself again.
Jan 12 10 06:54 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Melissa Wilkinson
Posts: 1,375
Clearwater, Florida, US


Thanks everyone. So when you are curling you should be clicking and opening the clasp periodically?

I wish there were more vids on youtube. I'm such a visual learner. But I really appreciate the instructions!! Thank you thank you!! & thanks for taking the time to take a photo for me.
Jan 12 10 09:07 am  Link  Quote 
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Perfectly Imperfect You
Posts: 107
Scotch Plains, New Jersey, US


It's so hard to explain in text especially when you're not near the person sad You "click" as you wind the hair in the curler, to get all of the ends in (no fishhooks!), then when you are holding it there for the few seconds, click to release it out, I hope that makes some sort of sense- If I had any clue on how to make a youtube video I'd show you guys !
Jan 12 10 09:56 am  Link  Quote 
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Erin Chaney
Posts: 719
Brooklyn, New York, US


I actually JUST saw a video about this click concept the other day.
http://www.totalbeauty.com/video/look-e … -hairstyle
Jan 12 10 10:04 am  Link  Quote 
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Debra Weite MUHA
Posts: 169
Las Vegas, Nevada, US


Melissa Wilkinson wrote:
http://www.avedapdx.com/Hot-Tools-Marcel-Curling-Ir.gif

I just purchased one of these (hot tools professional 3/4 marcel curling iron). I'm trying to find an instructional video or something to show me the proper way to hold and open the clasp easily. There isn't much on youtube on it and google hasn't been much help. Any help or advice would be appreciated.

Thank you,
Melissa

I have a BUNCH of those....and I went to Aveda Las Vegas...they last forever.  The marcel technique is tough to describe...so I took pics:

http://i46.tinypic.com/ev2lna.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/anorgp.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/208w7dz.jpg

Jan 12 10 10:07 am  Link  Quote 
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Erin Chaney
Posts: 719
Brooklyn, New York, US


Anyone who ever said stylists in the HMS forum aren't helpful should refer to this thread in the future! Hah!
Jan 12 10 10:10 am  Link  Quote 
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Annastazia M
Posts: 221
Parkville, Maryland, US


I'm a visual learner. Would anyone be so kind as to make a video?
Jan 12 10 11:07 am  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Tina at Verde Beauty
Posts: 125
Baton Rouge, Louisiana, US


I have 2 of these at my make up studio that my stylists leaves here and I'm about to go play! She's tried to tell me how it works but I still don't get it!
Jan 12 10 11:27 am  Link  Quote 
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Nika Vaughan
Posts: 1,015
Chicago, Illinois, US


Elevee Maquillage wrote:
I'm a visual learner. Would anyone be so kind as to make a video?
Erin Chaney wrote:
I actually JUST saw a video about this click concept the other day.
http://www.totalbeauty.com/video/look-e … -hairstyle

GREAT link!  Thanks!

Jan 12 10 02:09 pm  Link  Quote 
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Kristin Jackson Hair
Posts: 263
Brooklyn, New York, US


if you want to be techical you are only sopposed to use your pinky to lift it... it is bad for your tendons and all that jazz to do it with any others...
For NJ state board they will fail you (or are sopposed to) if you aren't holding it right..

but I am all for hold it however is comfortable.
also after years of using marcels, I once borrowed a friends spring iron and seriously looked like a 5 year old trying to curl hair.. it was laughable
Jan 12 10 09:19 pm  Link  Quote 
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Monique Heijboer
Posts: 785
Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands


Erin Chaney wrote:
I actually JUST saw a video about this click concept the other day.
http://www.totalbeauty.com/video/look-e … -hairstyle

The only thing is.. he doesn't actually use the click technique does he.
He just uses it as he would a regular iron.

Personally, I think it's good if you can master it, but a regular iron works just as well, and gives you a lot less grief.

If you want to protect your other hand against burning, try taping the curve part between your index finger and thumb with some medical tape or the ribbed tape that nail stylists use.
The latter because it has some stretch to it as well, and you can use 2 or 3 layers if need be.
I have burned myself so much in the past that the back of my left hand is covered in scars, so these days I stick with the cool tip irons.

Jan 13 10 05:42 am  Link  Quote 
Hair Stylist
A J T
Posts: 3,113
Brooklyn, New York, US


Kristin Jackson Hair wrote:
also after years of using marcels, I once borrowed a friends spring iron and seriously looked like a 5 year old trying to curl hair.. it was laughable

haaaaa me too! My muscle memory is completely confused by the action, now.

Jan 13 10 07:43 pm  Link  Quote 
Hair Stylist
Trump Hairdressing
Posts: 147
London, Arkansas, US


I would try this as you get no clamp marks and I could do two models hair in the time it would take you to do one.

http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/ima … g-wand.jpg

Theses are great!

I think you get a better curl with the ceramic wand.

Its all about preping the hair first, so I would blow dry a voulme mousse to add body and strength to the hair so you get a curl that lasts longer.

Luke Reynolds London
Jan 14 10 11:08 am  Link  Quote 
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Nika Vaughan
Posts: 1,015
Chicago, Illinois, US


Luke Reynolds London 1 wrote:
http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/ba/babyliss-wrap-around-conical-hair-curling-wand.jpg

I am totally debating getting 1 of these...

Jan 14 10 02:01 pm  Link  Quote 
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Erin Chaney
Posts: 719
Brooklyn, New York, US


Monique: Oh! I thought he was at least clicking when he pulled midway through. I hadn't much seen it before, so I thought it was what everyone was talking about. Oh well, hopefully someone still found it helpful.
Jan 14 10 03:36 pm  Link  Quote 
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A J T
Posts: 3,113
Brooklyn, New York, US


Luke Reynolds London 1 wrote:
I would try this as you get no clamp marks and I could do two models hair in the time it would take you to do one.

http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/ima … g-wand.jpg

Theses are great!

I think you get a better curl with the ceramic wand.

Its all about preping the hair first, so I would blow dry a voulme mousse to add body and strength to the hair so you get a curl that lasts longer.

Luke Reynolds London

I'd like to point out that you can't always get (particularly without a TON of practice) the same curls that you get from a classic marcel. Certainly wands are great to have if you have extra cash to get them and spare room and muscle to cart them around with your marcels, but you can achieve all the types of curls and speed that you get with the wand using a marcel by simply opening the clamp and wrapping the hair around the rod. If the ceramic thing is a concern, you can buy ceramic marcels like this one (though, again, only worth it if you've got extra cash, as they're about 150-900% the price point, some going up to $230 a pop).

http://www.smarter.com/curling-irons/ba … 05566.html

Jan 14 10 08:49 pm  Link  Quote 
Hair Stylist
A J T
Posts: 3,113
Brooklyn, New York, US


Erin Chaney wrote:
Monique: Oh! I thought he was at least clicking when he pulled midway through. I hadn't much seen it before, so I thought it was what everyone was talking about. Oh well, hopefully someone still found it helpful.

That is technically clicking. the "click" is the flexing of the clamp to move more hair though the wrap. The reason it is affectionately referred to clicking is because when you're doing your classic figure 8 or roller set curl, you know the hair is completely wrapped when the clamp and rod strike each other because there's very little hair (the thinner ends of the section) between them, creating a metallic "click" noise.

Jan 14 10 08:58 pm  Link  Quote 
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liz yu
Posts: 1,902
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


i think rods are kinda a rip.. regular irons can do everything the rod can do, and more.

the advantage of marcel over spring is that you can wind and unwind the hair all with 1 hand.  but i don't particularly care for marcel over spring since i do like cool tip.  they're really the same thing just that with marcel you have to control the open and closing, with spring it does the closing for you, you just have to worry about doing the open part (which i like.. since i'm so lazy).    there are ppl that use marcels like clamps, and there are ppl that use clamps almost as marcels.  you can be just as fast with either, just know ur tools well.
Jan 14 10 09:11 pm  Link  Quote 
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Trump Hairdressing
Posts: 147
London, Arkansas, US


Your forgeting one thing wands don't cause clamp marks and thats the last thing you want too see in a photo.
Jan 14 10 11:23 pm  Link  Quote 
Hair Stylist
A J T
Posts: 3,113
Brooklyn, New York, US


Luke Reynolds London 1 wrote:
Your forgeting one thing wands don't cause clamp marks and thats the last thing you want too see in a photo.

... and neither do marcels if you take the time to learn to do it right. All my curls were done with marcel, and there's no clamp marks in them.

Jan 15 10 05:34 am  Link  Quote 
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Trump Hairdressing
Posts: 147
London, Arkansas, US


http://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic_ … up_id=&ua=

See the marks and does not look natural due to over heated Marcel
Jan 15 10 06:19 am  Link  Quote 
Hair Stylist
A J T
Posts: 3,113
Brooklyn, New York, US


Luke Reynolds London 1 wrote:
http://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic_id=4ad7f05d259cf&date=2009-10-15%2021:02:37&id=679524&pid=14758286&the_count=3&group_id=&ua=

See the marks and does not look natural due to over heated Marcel

That's a thermal wave, created by using the clamp to create creases reminiscent of finger waves in the hair. So yes, there are creases there. Intentionally. Are you really going to argue this point right now? If you think that marcels can't be used in a traditional manner without creasing, then you have absolutely no idea how to use them correctly and therefore aren't qualified to comment on this subject.

Also, I'm not really following the unnatural comment, as that is clearly not a natural style, yet the hair is glossy, smooth and healthy looking, not to toot my own horn.

Jan 15 10 06:26 am  Link  Quote 
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Trump Hairdressing
Posts: 147
London, Arkansas, US


I dont need to use ethier as I can use a small round brush and get an even better result that will last longer and not damage the hair smile  Take like 10mins more of my time but you see the difference.
Jan 15 10 08:20 am  Link  Quote 
Hair Stylist
A J T
Posts: 3,113
Brooklyn, New York, US


Luke Reynolds London 1 wrote:
I dont need to use ethier as I can use a small round brush and get an even better result that will last longer and not damage the hair smile  Take like 10mins more of my time but you see the difference.

That's awesome, I'd love to see a picture of that or maybe you could make a youtube tutorial, because I don't know a single person that can create that look using a round brush and a blowdryer, and I know some damn amazing hair stylists.

It's interesting that you should repay my previous kindness in sending you a lengthy email full of advice on getting to the States and/or getting onto projects you want to get on by dissing my work and telling me that you're better than me. Your sense of loyalty and gratitude is overwhelming in it's volume. Please remind me of this and direct others to this exchange the next time you ask for help, kindness, or a favor, as I'm sure I and others will be overjoyed to receive vinegar in exchange for nectar.

Your lack of tact, fumbling grasp of social niceties, and soaring delusions are doing nothing but highlighting your naivete and glaring gaps in skill set and practical field knowledge. You're doing nothing here but eroding your own character. I know that this forum is a very small subset of the fashion industry, but it is a comparable microcosm of the larger world. If you can't gain respect here, where it is admittedly easier to become a big boy on campus, then I can barely imagine what your acerbic attitude gains you in your immediate professional world.

Good luck with yourself.

Sorry to all the others for the rant, I just don't want anyone taking ill-advised direction from an amateur.

Jan 15 10 08:40 am  Link  Quote 
Hair Stylist
Trump Hairdressing
Posts: 147
London, Arkansas, US


I'm no amateur!

One must be able to take criticism I sure can it makes you a better stylist.

I am a fully qualified stylist earning the highest honours with Vidal Sassoon and have learn my session styling from Toni&Guy which are sponsors of London fashion week.

I will send you a method of how to create a set curl using just a small round brush.
Jan 15 10 02:16 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Nika Vaughan
Posts: 1,015
Chicago, Illinois, US


Please don't let this thread turn into madness, ok?  Some of us want to keep an open, welcoming dialouge going. 

And don't give unsolicited critiques about other MM's unless they asked.  Go to the Critique Forum for that.
Jan 15 10 02:57 pm  Link  Quote 
Hair Stylist
Trump Hairdressing
Posts: 147
London, Arkansas, US


Agree
Jan 15 10 03:09 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Jordan Liberty
Posts: 4,828
New York, New York, US


Luke Reynolds London 1 wrote:
One must be able to take criticism I sure can it makes you a better stylist.

Yes, but critiques belong in the critique room, unsolicited crits like the above are not only rude but also violate MM forum rules (and besides, he did not ask for an opinion). No one in here is digging into your port and giving you their piece of mind, so let's keep the debate about the original question, and not start insulting others' work. If you are the professional you claim to be, you should know that already. I'm sure that technique has worked for you as a pro in London, but respect the pros in the US who may do things differently, and respect their work as well.

Jan 15 10 04:18 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
EmElle Makeup and Hair
Posts: 5,013
San Jose, California, US


Since I went to cosmo school in 1994, and at the time Colorado state board didn't care about precisely how you are holding it, or the clicking, I didn't remember all this.  I've been doing it for so long, I don't even think about it.  Now that this thread is forcing me to dig into the recesses of my brain, I'm thinking "oh yeah!"  Der.  Still don't know if I hold it like you guys do, but I imagine maybe not as I have short fingers.  I don't even hold chopsticks right, but I get better results my way.

Great job Alexander!
Jan 16 10 10:17 am  Link  Quote 
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Lavonne A.
Posts: 2
New York, New York, US


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