Forums > Contests > PotD18+ Discussion Thread

Model

JoJo

Posts: 26560

Clearwater, Florida, US

StacieMaria wrote:
Okay? On the bottom of the site where the 15 day images are at it mentions that I haven't entered in the forum contest or am I getting that confused too.
  Actually this is what it says:

  Forum contest

I don't think you entered the forum competiton in the past 15 days.
  And your the best JoJo!!!

Just so that everyone knows we are speaking of Sendu's 15-day utility
https://www.sendu.me.uk/modelmayhem/15_day/

The utility shows your entries in the PotD, the PotD18+ (both gallery style contests) and the PotD-OE (forum based - no 18+ images)

May 22 12 12:13 pm Link

Photographer

Stanley L Moore

Posts: 1681

Houston, Texas, US

JoJo wrote:

No need to apologies – you are one of the VERY few that actually CREDIT others involved in the creation of an image.

Thank you, and the small number of people that actually know how to provide credit wink

Thanks for the kind words JoJo. I appreciate it. I often joke that it is the skill of the photographer not the beauty of the model that makes a super image. LOL. But of course it takes both and often others like MUAs, designers etc. Luckily men dont need much make up and my models wear very little clothes.

I am sometimes frstrated at lack of credit on photographer's ports. I look at lots of photos and often see models I want to see more of and have found some in this way. But when the photographer says Model: Mike" or some such. It is perplexing because crediting is not very difficult when uploading photos. It is not that hard in the contests.

The only time I do not credit officially is when the models is not on MM and then I put his name in the caption. I do have a model who does not do nudes according to his profile so when we shoot nudes it is with the proviso his face will not show and he will not be credited. I can understand that and respect it. But it is just courtesy and professionalism to give credit where it is due.

May 22 12 01:53 pm Link

Photographer

Sendu

Posts: 3530

Cambridge, England, United Kingdom

Gaze at Photography wrote:
The 15-day forum search works, but it's not perfect yet...

As always, the POTD has come in correctly, but the 18+ Female results that I get are a bit scewed.

The position number is way off. Several times I had a top 12 or top 20 and the placing was in the 40's or as high as 99th place.

https://www.sendu.me.uk/modelmayhem/15_day/

Try it.  Let me know if it's just me.

JoJo wrote:
Sendu’s 15 day check is a great utility
https://www.sendu.me.uk/modelmayhem/15_day/
just type in your MM number and it will report all your entries in the PotD, PotD18+M&F and the PotD-OE for the last 15 days.

I use it every night validating the contests.
With this utility there should be no excuse for any member entering the same image within the 15 day span.

The reporting error you’re seeing isn’t a result of Sendu’s code, it’s a result of the MM contest code.
The contest is supposed to display the ‘winner’ in the top left position with the subsequent runner ups being listed below in order of the votes received.
We’re working on the code…. still.

This problem should now be fixed. Even better, it can now tell you about photos you've submitted today or yesterday.

As a reminder to everyone, I rarely visit MM anymore, and I visit this thread even less, and I do not actually use the PotD 15 day checker tool myself, so I will not be aware of any problems with it. Send me a private message if you want to see bugs fixed.

May 22 12 04:17 pm Link

Photographer

Stanley L Moore

Posts: 1681

Houston, Texas, US

Thank you for the upgrades that tell the latest photo entries. Your labor is appreciated.

May 22 12 07:05 pm Link

Photographer

Gaze at Photography

Posts: 4371

Hilton Head Island, South Carolina, US

Sendu wrote:

Gaze at Photography wrote:
The 15-day forum search works, but it's not perfect yet...

As always, the POTD has come in correctly, but the 18+ Female results that I get are a bit scewed.

The position number is way off. Several times I had a top 12 or top 20 and the placing was in the 40's or as high as 99th place.

https://www.sendu.me.uk/modelmayhem/15_day/

Try it.  Let me know if it's just me.

This problem should now be fixed. Even better, it can now tell you about photos you've submitted today or yesterday.

As a reminder to everyone, I rarely visit MM anymore, and I visit this thread even less, and I do not actually use the PotD 15 day checker tool myself, so I will not be aware of any problems with it. Send me a private message if you want to see bugs fixed.

Thank you Amigo

May 22 12 07:27 pm Link

Photographer

MalePortfolios

Posts: 126

Anaheim, California, US

Stanley L Moore wrote:
I am sometimes frustrated at lack of credit on photographer's ports. I look at lots of photos and often see models I want to see more of and have found some in this way. But when the photographer says Model: Mike" or some such. It is perplexing because crediting is not very difficult when uploading photos. It is not that hard in the contests.

The only time I do not credit officially is when the models is not on MM and then I put his name in the caption. I do have a model who does not do nudes according to his profile so when we shoot nudes it is with the proviso his face will not show and he will not be credited. I can understand that and respect it. But it is just courtesy and professionalism to give credit where it is due.

Personally, I link MM models accounts with their photos whenever possible. Some MM talent have asked to NOT be linked when their 18  images are displayed. Those don't get linked.

Of course, non-MM models make up the majority of my talent pool. The only way to credit them is to use a first name. Using a last name.. no... a simple Google name search and, well, some of these models won't want to shoot anymore!

Giving credit is "nice", but not really the rule... True, it does make it difficult for us to contact the model directly, to try to set up a shoot, but many models don't want to be caught up in a conversation of "Hey, you did nudes for THAT photographer! Why won't you do them for ME?!!!"

For TFP sessions, I always give credits

May 23 12 09:24 am Link

Photographer

Stanley L Moore

Posts: 1681

Houston, Texas, US

MalePortfolios wrote:
Personally, I link MM models accounts with their photos whenever possible. Some MM talent have asked to NOT be linked when their 18  images are displayed. Those don't get linked.

Of course, non-MM models make up the majority of my talent pool. The only way to credit them is to use a first name. Using a last name.. no... a simple Google name search and, well, some of these models won't want to shoot anymore!

Giving credit is "nice", but not really the rule... True, it does make it difficult for us to contact the model directly, to try to set up a shoot, but many models don't want to be caught up in a conversation of "Hey, you did nudes for THAT photographer! Why won't you do them for ME?!!!"

For TFP sessions, I always give credits

May 23 12 11:15 am Link

Photographer

MalePortfolios

Posts: 126

Anaheim, California, US

Stanley L Moore wrote:
I agree there is plenty of scope for variations in credits. I too have moels who do not want credit for 18+ imagse amd I respect that. I amost always pay my models but I give credit anyway. Like you if I am being paid  credit is nice but not required.

I think JOJo was referring to the many many photographers who have MM models and still do not give credit  to them. I generally ask models to credit me when they post their pics here.

Ditto! I agree with you. When I take the time to edit & post-production with photos, then give images to the models, ... then I come to an agreement with the model to cross-credit the images.

Very cool... (Love your work, btw, Stanley!)
-G

May 23 12 12:10 pm Link

Photographer

Billy G Photography

Posts: 422

Cape May, New Jersey, US

What happened to sunday men 18+ POD results? I thought they were there earlier, now, Not .. Did I miss something?

May 28 12 06:28 pm Link

Photographer

Billy G Photography

Posts: 422

Cape May, New Jersey, US

oops hit the quote tab in stead of edit[/quote wrote:

May 28 12 06:45 pm Link

Model

JoJo

Posts: 26560

Clearwater, Florida, US

Billy G Photography wrote:
What happened to sunday men 18+ POD results? I thought they were there earlier, now, Not .. Did I miss something?

When a disqualification is done it sometimes causes the final standings to disappear until the techs reset it.

May 28 12 10:35 pm Link

Photographer

Billy G Photography

Posts: 422

Cape May, New Jersey, US

JoJo wrote:

When a disqualification is done it sometimes causes the final standings to disappear until the techs reset it.

Oh, Thanks

May 29 12 02:09 am Link

Photographer

Stanley L Moore

Posts: 1681

Houston, Texas, US

Billy G Photography wrote:

Oh, Thanks

Very quirky behavior.  Best solution... don;t disqualify any after teh voting. LOL.

Actually it is amazing how swiftly you get the contest results completed. I often am awake at 0200 am here in Houston when it is midnight in CA. And the voting page is already up and running in jsut a couple minutes. You have to screen the photos and DQ any stragglers in just a few minutes. The results takes a bit longer but still is pretty swift. WHat happens if you all want to go to bed early?

Good job administering the contest all round. Esoecailly when there is lots of work. I generally pa attention only to the POTD 18 Men contest but you have to take care of all of them.  While the code may be quirky the admins do a good job here.

May 29 12 08:36 am Link

Photographer

Billy G Photography

Posts: 422

Cape May, New Jersey, US

Stanley L Moore wrote:
Very quirky behavior.  Best solution... don;t disqualify any after teh voting. LOL.

Actually it is amazing how swiftly you get the contest results completed. I often am awake at 0200 am here in Houston when it is midnight in CA. And the voting page is already up and running in jsut a couple minutes. You have to screen the photos and DQ any stragglers in just a few minutes. The results takes a bit longer but still is pretty swift. WHat happens if you all want to go to bed early?

Good job administering the contest all round. Esoecailly when there is lots of work. I generally pa attention only to the POTD 18 Men contest but you have to take care of all of them.  While the code may be quirky the admins do a good job here.

I know the contest is for internment but, it's seems 9 out of 10 time that I have entered there's been a problem, usually and uploading issue or disqualification but now sundays whole contest is gone.. Fun! Not a word I would use.. I like voting on the contest, but entering is something different... so I guess I'm out... Not sure if my image was disqualified or not, my image was submitted before and stayed in, so maybe it's still in... I submitted from my other mm profile... there are a lot of creative images, Not always the winners.. and my hat is off to the mods for keeping track of everything the best they can.. it's seems no one else is worried about sundays contest but me.. so no hurry..wink

May 29 12 01:57 pm Link

Photographer

Stanley L Moore

Posts: 1681

Houston, Texas, US

Billy G Photography wrote:

I know the contest is for internment but, it's seems 9 out of 10 time that I have entered there's been a problem, usually and uploading issue or disqualification but now sundays whole contest is gone.. Fun! Not a word I would use.. I like voting on the contest, but entering is something different... so I guess I'm out... Not sure if my image was disqualified or not, my image was submitted before and stayed in, so maybe it's still in... I submitted from my other mm profile... there are a lot of creative images, Not always the winners.. and my hat is off to the mods for keeping track of everything the best they can.. it's seems no one else is worried about sundays contest but me.. so no hurry..wink

Evidently if there is a DQ after votung then the results disappear. But it will me back eventually.

One thing you can do is check Sendu's utility. It will show your entry for Sunday and have a link to all the results. Sort of a way around the disappearance. The poowers that be in IB have a bit of work to do on the contest code.

May 29 12 03:27 pm Link

Photographer

Stanley L Moore

Posts: 1681

Houston, Texas, US

Billy G you can also use thw CAM feature and ask about your entry. Contest questions are a built in categories and I usually get a pretty quick response from a contest moderator about any issues. Usually it is JoJo who is very conscientious.

May 29 12 03:35 pm Link

Photographer

Brooklyn Bridge Images

Posts: 13200

Brooklyn, New York, US

Todays winner...WHEW!!!
I hope I can shoot like that one day

May 31 12 05:38 am Link

Model

JoJo

Posts: 26560

Clearwater, Florida, US

Moderator Note!
A quick refresher course in the 15-day rule is in order.

The 15-day rule is image specific.
It doesn’t matter who submits the image, if the image has been in the contests in the last 15 day then it is disqualified.

Desaturating/changing a colour image to B&W, recropping the image, reversing the image, resizing the image and other methods are considered attempts to circumvent the 15-day rule and will result in a disqualification.

To check the images you have entered in the past 15 days please use this utility:
https://www.sendu.me.uk/modelmayhem/15_day/

Jun 01 12 02:21 pm Link

Photographer

Stanley L Moore

Posts: 1681

Houston, Texas, US

JoJo wrote:
A quick refresher course in the 15-day rule is in order.

The 15-day rule is image specific.
It doesn’t matter who submits the image, if the image has been in the contests in the last 15 day then it is disqualified.

Desaturating/changing a colour image to B&W, recropping the image, reversing the image, resizing the image and other methods are considered attempts to circumvent the 15-day rule and will result in a disqualification.

To check the images you have entered in the past 15 days please use this utility:
https://www.sendu.me.uk/modelmayhem/15_day/

As someone who has entered the same image more than once but after a month or so, I find that they seldom get enough votes to win the second or third time. So what's the use?

For myself I solved the problem by editing new images and set them aside to enter the contest once. If an image gets 9 or fewer votes it will probably fare no better in subsequent entries. I have a couple that came in 2nd, 3rd or 4th.... them maybe I shall reenter them after a decent interval but I have never had an image win on the second entry. So for practcical reasons it is pretty useless to enter angain and again.

I do not know about other voters but some images have been entered so often I am familiar with them and I NEVER vote for them again. If your goal is to win forget about re-entering old pics more than twice. If they do not win in 2 tries they won't win at all.

Some models or photographers may not care if they win so enter the same image just to get recognition. I cannot think of another reason for entering a pic multiple times.

Jun 01 12 02:51 pm Link

Model

BellaStacie

Posts: 373

Hollywood, Florida, US

I thought it was against the rule for penetration? There an image of a girl doing just that in todays POTD 18+.

Jun 05 12 08:25 am Link

Photographer

Marty McBride

Posts: 3142

Owensboro, Kentucky, US

StacieMaria wrote:
I thought it was against the rule for penetration? There an image of a girl doing just that in todays POTD 18+.

got my vote lol smile

Jun 05 12 08:55 am Link

Photographer

Stanley L Moore

Posts: 1681

Houston, Texas, US

Jasmine 1969 wrote:

LOL!!! smile

Maybe I am missing something but I think it is a gun.... pistol.

Jun 05 12 09:03 am Link

Photographer

Marty McBride

Posts: 3142

Owensboro, Kentucky, US

Post hidden on Jun 05, 2012 12:24 pm
Reason: violates rules

Jun 05 12 09:15 am Link

Photographer

Stanley L Moore

Posts: 1681

Houston, Texas, US

My eyesight is not very good I guess. That doesn't look like penetration.... not quite at least. LOL.

Jun 05 12 09:22 am Link

Photographer

Marty McBride

Posts: 3142

Owensboro, Kentucky, US

Stanley L Moore wrote:
My eyesight is not very good I guess. That doesn't look like penetration.... not quite at least. LOL.

tongue

Jun 05 12 09:26 am Link

Photographer

HalfMoonColorado

Posts: 797

Murrells Inlet, South Carolina, US

I've tried twice to enter shots in both the regular and the 18+ POD within the past three days. I get the confirmation that the images were entered but they aren't in the contest.

I have to admit I did not put +18 with those images but did use the +18 entry area. No snide remarks about the +18 entry area please.

I stand corrected. The non +18 is there today.

Jun 09 12 07:52 am Link

Model

JoJo

Posts: 26560

Clearwater, Florida, US

HalfMoonColorado wrote:
I've tried twice to enter shots in both the regular and the 18+ POD within the past three days. I get the confirmation that the images were entered but they aren't in the contest.

I have to admit I did not put +18 with those images but did use the +18 entry area. No snide remarks about the +18 entry area please.

I stand corrected. The non +18 is there today.

I only see two disqualifications from the PotD18+ - same image - violates the "emphasis on genitalia" rule

Jun 09 12 11:19 am Link

Photographer

Shutterbug

Posts: 202

San Francisco, California, US

Posting in here against better judgment, I am perplexed by the disqualification two days in a row of a photo that violates no rule. 

No emphasis on genitals, no sex, no spread. It was intended to be cute and amusing; perhaps the MM gods thought it was stupid. Is that a reason to disqualify?

I am really sick and tired of the arbitrariness.



https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/p … 2#28754072

Jun 13 12 07:24 am Link

Model

JoJo

Posts: 26560

Clearwater, Florida, US

zoomring photo wrote:
Posting in here against better judgment, I am perplexed by the disqualification two days in a row of a photo that violates no rule. 

No emphasis on genitals, no sex, no spread. It was intended to be cute and amusing; perhaps the MM gods thought it was stupid. Is that a reason to disqualify?

I am really sick and tired of the arbitrariness.



https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/p … 2#28754072

Maybe you need to read the contest rules again - pay close attention to rule 5 wink

Jun 13 12 01:09 pm Link

Photographer

Shutterbug

Posts: 202

San Francisco, California, US

I don't know how many images I've seen with two people. There's even a provision for placement of male/female images.

Jun 13 12 01:32 pm Link

Model

JoJo

Posts: 26560

Clearwater, Florida, US

zoomring photo wrote:
I don't know how many images I've seen with two people. There's even a provision for placement of male/female images.

I had one photographer submit an image and claimed that his four models were identical quadruplets

the only problem was they all had the same name


hint: try crediting your models in your port so people can see who the models are.

Jun 13 12 01:50 pm Link

Photographer

Gaze at Photography

Posts: 4371

Hilton Head Island, South Carolina, US

zoomring photo wrote:
I am really sick and tired of the arbitrariness.

Don't be.  It's a staple around here.

Jun 13 12 04:16 pm Link

Photographer

Shutterbug

Posts: 202

San Francisco, California, US

“5. Entries must be in the form of single images. Multiple images, even those combined to form a thematic series, are prohibited.”

You can’t be serious about this. LOOK AT THE DAMN PICTURE.

I take “multiple images” to mean some sort of pasted-up composite featuring the same subject. Like, oh, this image from last night's contest which was NOT DQ'd.

https://www.modelmayhem.com/contests/po … view/30462

The photo I submitted quite clearly is of two different women in the same frame. One is posed with white roses trying to act formal. The second is dancing around the first  making monkey shines. The two models could not be taken as one - they are of different races. I would love to credit them, but both are doing nudes on the DL and don’t want their “fashion” images compromised.





JoJo wrote:
I had one photographer submit an image and claimed that his four models were identical quadruplets

the only problem was they all had the same name


hint: try crediting your models in your port so people can see who the models are.

Jun 13 12 05:26 pm Link

Model

JoJo

Posts: 26560

Clearwater, Florida, US

zoomring photo wrote:
You can’t be serious about this. LOOK AT THE DAMN PICTURE.

I am serious... and I looked at the image - twice - once before I disqualified it each time.

Rule 11:
The Picture of the Day Nigerian scammers reserve the right to disqualify images at their discretion.

Want to continue this discussion? Write me a CAM.

Jun 13 12 10:04 pm Link

Photographer

HalfMoonColorado

Posts: 797

Murrells Inlet, South Carolina, US

JoJo wrote:

I only see two disqualifications from the PotD18+ - same image - violates the "emphasis on genitalia" rule

And what the hell is this then?
https://photos.modelmayhem.com/contest/ … 84-big.jpg

Jun 18 12 06:58 am Link

Photographer

HalfMoonColorado

Posts: 797

Murrells Inlet, South Carolina, US

To everyone. I truely do not understand this contest.

Today this shot received 11 votes (come on folks, 11?) while there were 25 entries with zero, zip, nada, votes at all. I didn't even count the images with only one vote.

What is the best time of day to enter a photo so it gathers the most exposure?

I am so tired of seeing the entries the next day with several photos that I never had a chance to vote on. Even winners! Why can't we have all entries posted at one time with that day closed so pics don't dribble in.

Jun 23 12 06:53 am Link

Photographer

Kent Art Photography

Posts: 3588

Ashford, England, United Kingdom

HalfMoonColorado wrote:
To everyone. I truely do not understand this contest.

Today this shot received 11 votes (come on folks, 11?) while there were 25 entries with zero, zip, nada, votes at all. I didn't even count the images with only one vote.

What is the best time of day to enter a photo so it gathers the most exposure?

I am so tired of seeing the entries the next day with several photos that I never had a chance to vote on. Even winners! Why can't we have all entries posted at one time with that day closed so pics don't dribble in.

I thought it went like this:-

You enter a picture in the competition on Day 1.  Your picture goes into the voting contest on Day 2, along with all the other pics entered on Day 1.  On Day 3 you get the results of the voting contest held on Day 2.  Simples.

Why people enter pics in the competition, and how people vote, is another thing altogether.  If I could crack that one (and I became a better photographer, too, I suppose), I'd win all the time.

The winners, though, are usually well-deserved.

Jun 23 12 07:16 am Link

Model

JoJo

Posts: 26560

Clearwater, Florida, US

Kent Art Photography wrote:
I thought it went like this:-

You enter a picture in the competition on Day 1.  Your picture goes into the voting contest on Day 2, along with all the other pics entered on Day 1.  On Day 3 you get the results of the voting contest held on Day 2.  Simples.

Why people enter pics in the competition, and how people vote, is another thing altogether.  If I could crack that one (and I became a better photographer, too, I suppose), I'd win all the time.

The winners, though, are usually well-deserved.

And you are almost 100% correct

Once the voting starts at 00:00 there are no images added to the current contest. There are periodical disqualifications though.

Jun 23 12 11:55 am Link

Photographer

HalfMoonColorado

Posts: 797

Murrells Inlet, South Carolina, US

JoJo wrote:

And you are almost 100% correct

Once the voting starts at 00:00 there are no images added to the current contest. There are periodical disqualifications though.

So if I look at images at 8:00am MST there should be all the photos for that day to vote on? I understand why some images might get kicked out making the selections fewer to choose from. I suppose any votes for disqualified images get tossed with the photo. Right so far?

BUT, and I do have a big butt. If I vote for three images at whatever time the next day at the vote talley I see images that were not made available to me to vote on the previous day. It is like images are added for voting throughout the day.

I have had other photograpghers mention the same thing. At first I blew it off as to Oldtimers but some of these added shots are so distinctive there is no way we would have missed them. Is there ever a page two that may not be showing up on my browser?

Jun 23 12 04:26 pm Link

Model

JoJo

Posts: 26560

Clearwater, Florida, US

JoJo wrote:
And you are almost 100% correct

Once the voting starts at 00:00 there are no images added to the current contest. There are periodical disqualifications though.

HalfMoonColorado wrote:
So if I look at images at 8:00am MST there should be all the photos for that day to vote on? I understand why some images might get kicked out making the selections fewer to choose from. I suppose any votes for disqualified images get tossed with the photo. Right so far?

BUT, and I do have a big butt. If I vote for three images at whatever time the next day at the vote talley I see images that were not made available to me to vote on the previous day. It is like images are added for voting throughout the day.

I have had other photograpghers mention the same thing. At first I blew it off as to Oldtimers but some of these added shots are so distinctive there is no way we would have missed them. Is there ever a page two that may not be showing up on my browser?

There are days I find what appears to be a new image in the contests too but the XX images that come out at 00:00Pacific time are the same images (less DQs/removals) that finish the contest at 23:59.

Jun 23 12 04:37 pm Link