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Rob Mac Studio
Posts: 1,105
London, England, United Kingdom


Thanks for posting up the RAW, makes it a bit more workable. Maybe too crunchy, i dunno..


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4145/5102798784_e0ef4390aa_z.jpg
Oct 20 10 01:57 pm  Link  Quote 
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Pictus
Posts: 1,023
Teresópolis, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil


Nice shoot
Oct 20 10 07:31 pm  Link  Quote 
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Tog
Posts: 55,204
Birmingham, Alabama, US


Pictus, that's quite nice.
Oct 20 10 09:00 pm  Link  Quote 
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ShaunQ
Posts: 168
Waihi Beach, Waikato, New Zealand


pellepiano wrote:
I used mainly D&B ( curves layers ). Selective color. Some Highpass for sharpening.

http://www.lutzimages.com/thread_images/mm_portraitbrad.jpg

Really like your work here Pellepiano, has a lovely smoothness to the tones that you've managed to carve and enhance with D&B. Comparing it with the original is a big eye opener for me as although I have a good understanding of D&B and the various ways to do it, I never really understood how to use it to enhance existing lighting. After many many hours spent researching works similar to the look of the images in the OP, I've never really got anywhere over the last year with the technique and now I see just what has been missing.

Any chance you could share a screen cap of the layer masks so I can see the amount of work that has gone into each D&B layer? That would be choice.

Oct 21 10 02:16 am  Link  Quote 
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pellepiano
Posts: 2,279
Stockholm, Stockholm, Sweden


As I did it just for fun on the low res example jpg, the psd is a total mess smile, mainly because after a few layers of work I make a new layer with the composite and continue etc ... but its located ... www.lutzimages.com/downloads/portraitbrad.psd.zip
Oct 21 10 03:12 am  Link  Quote 
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ShaunQ
Posts: 168
Waihi Beach, Waikato, New Zealand


Looks like you had fun creating the mess smile Thanks for the PSD its good to see how you've worked through it, I like the subtle HF or highpass layer with the find edges mask, and the D&B work you've done really changes the image, time for me to buy a Wacom...
Oct 21 10 04:35 am  Link  Quote 
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S T U D I O S I X
Posts: 408
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


He matched the original  posted image pretty darn close. What technic did you create the mask of the body outline ? Pen tool ? Color range? Quick mask?
Oct 21 10 04:50 am  Link  Quote 
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Natalia_Taffarel
Posts: 7,665
Buenos Aires, Buenos Aires, Argentina


S T U D I O  S I X  wrote:
He matched the original  posted image pretty darn close. What technic did you create the mask of the body outline ? Pen tool ? Color range? Quick mask?

And he was the only one who did.

I think the main thing when trying to recreate something is looking at TONES and LIGHT - shadows, midtones, highlights.

Amount of detail - again shadows, midtones, highlights

Thanks for the psd already shared it smile

x

Oct 21 10 05:18 am  Link  Quote 
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pellepiano
Posts: 2,279
Stockholm, Stockholm, Sweden


S T U D I O  S I X  wrote:
What technic did you create the mask of the body outline ? Pen tool ? Color range? Quick mask?

The new CS 5 Refine Edge worked for this example. It seems to be a good complement to existing methods.

Oct 21 10 05:38 am  Link  Quote 
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Rob Mac Studio
Posts: 1,105
London, England, United Kingdom


Nicely done and thanks for sharing the psd.
Oct 21 10 05:47 am  Link  Quote 
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Krunoslav Stifter
Posts: 3,882
Santa Cruz, California, US


Pellepiano, nice light painting. smile D&B I mean. Looks closes to the OP example. And thanks for the PSD.
Oct 21 10 05:49 am  Link  Quote 
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Pictus
Posts: 1,023
Teresópolis, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil


Tog wrote:
Pictus, that's quite nice.

Thanks, a second try smile
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7346/portraitbradfx2p2ppa.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3045/portraitbradfx2p2ppb.jpg

Oct 21 10 12:30 pm  Link  Quote 
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Operator Number 7
Posts: 59
Seattle, Washington, US


Thanks for posting the .psd pellepiano.  Very helpfull.  I like how you pushed the contrast a bit, then pushed the color a bit, a bit more contrast, a bit more color...  Small steps in the right direction.

I must ask about the layer that had a mask on it that appeared to be made by making a chanel based on the luminocity of the image and then using the find edge filter.  The actual layer appeared to be some sort of fill layer based on a variation of the inverse selection of the layers mask and then filled w/ gray.  Overall it added contrast to the image.  If you feel inclined I would love to have a little more insight into that layer and how it was made.  If not thanks again for posting the .psd.

Robert
Oct 21 10 06:04 pm  Link  Quote 
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Jerry Bennett
Posts: 2,222
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US


Some really nice work here. Even the one's that don't match the OP's examples look damn good! I think MM's retouch forum is raising the bar for all but the highest of the high end retouch work.
Oct 21 10 09:13 pm  Link  Quote 
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pellepiano
Posts: 2,279
Stockholm, Stockholm, Sweden


Operator Number 7 wrote:
I must ask about the layer that had a mask on it that appeared to be made by making a chanel based on the luminocity of the image and then using the find edge filter.

To avoid to much halos when using the Highpass filter in Overlay ( to sharpen or grunge ) I used to make a mask, using the Find Edges filter. It sometimes enhances contrast in a good way.

Oct 22 10 06:15 am  Link  Quote 
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Pictus
Posts: 1,023
Teresópolis, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil


The filter>Sketch>Photocopy is also good to create an edge mask, but it is 8 bit only...
Here some nice free action/scripts http://www.thelightsrightstudio.com/TLR … eMasks.htm

Topaz Simplify is good and Focal Blade even better to create edges.
Oct 22 10 10:53 am  Link  Quote 
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Operator Number 7
Posts: 59
Seattle, Washington, US


pellepiano wrote:

To avoid to much halos when using the Highpass filter in Overlay ( to sharpen or grunge ) I used to make a mask, using the Find Edges filter. It sometimes enhances contrast in a good way.

Ah, I see.  Thanks for the insight.

Robert

Oct 22 10 05:55 pm  Link  Quote 
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J u s t i n G i l l
Posts: 498
Los Angeles, California, US


Peano wrote:
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2923/portraitbraddt1a.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6990/portraitbraddt2.jpg

That looks really good, scale it back to about 80% though...  Almost too digital art

Oct 22 10 08:26 pm  Link  Quote 
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Dan OMell
Posts: 1,335
Ufa, Bashkortostan, Russia


this is awesome, a lot of inspiration...
thanks for the link

NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:
A lot of this tends to be islands of relative brightness in a sea of darkness
a little like this
http://vimeo.com/channels/royksopp#2355334

Oct 22 10 10:42 pm  Link  Quote 
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George Thomson
Posts: 698
Concord, California, US


just some toning

http://mobilefiles.ca/Brad_thumb.jpg

http://mobilefiles.ca/Brad_retouched.jpg
Oct 23 10 12:48 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
White Pearl Photography
Posts: 1
Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia


ShaunQ wrote:
As I mentioned the image posted I had retouched so probly wouldn't handle too much further editing. Below is a link to download the original RAW file that I'll leave available for a few days and would really like to see where others would take it. I had to keep editing pretty subtle for its intended use, but really love the portraits posted by the OP, so keen to learn a few further techniques. Download RAW from here -

http://www.mediafire.com/?zj92lic4idcute3

.

Is there a password to download the file?

Dec 04 10 06:38 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
cwwmbm
Posts: 443
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada


pellepiano wrote:
I used mainly D&B ( curves layers ). Selective color. Some Highpass for sharpening.

http://www.lutzimages.com/thread_images/mm_portraitbrad.jpg

I know I'm three years late to the party, but... Any chance for that PSD file? smile

Aug 01 13 10:45 am  Link  Quote 
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MarinaRetoucher
Posts: 18
Kharkiv, Kharkivs'ka, Ukraine


Aug 12 13 05:32 am  Link  Quote 
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MarinaRetoucher
Posts: 18
Kharkiv, Kharkivs'ka, Ukraine


pellepiano wrote:
As I did it just for fun on the low res example jpg, the psd is a total mess smile, mainly because after a few layers of work I make a new layer with the composite and continue etc ... but its located ... www.lutzimages.com/downloads/portraitbrad.psd.zip

I want this PDS. please send it to my e-mail please!Jolly-world@mail.ru

Aug 12 13 05:33 am  Link  Quote 
Artist/Painter
The3LivingAndThe3Dead
Posts: 963
Los Angeles, California, US


S T U D I O  S I X  wrote:
Here are some great shot of 2 amazing photographers let me here your thoughts of how they did it and please I want your thoughts not just ask the photog.
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/hotsteveo/inspiration/Screenshot2010-10-14at50120PM.png

http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/hotsteveo/inspiration/Screenshot2010-10-14at45638PM.png
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/hotsteveo/inspiration/Screenshot2010-10-14at45606PM.png
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/hotsteveo/inspiration/Screenshot2010-10-18at120115PM.png
http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/hotsteveo/inspiration/Screenshot2010-10-18at120242PM.png

To get back to the original post -

The lights are all big. There are no hard shadows - more just contact / ambient occlusion-looking soft shadows.

Aug 12 13 07:38 am  Link  Quote 
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pellepiano
Posts: 2,279
Stockholm, Stockholm, Sweden


MarinaRetoucher wrote:
I want this PDS. please send it to my e-mail please!Jolly-world@mail.ru

Im sorry but I seem to have deleted it from my server and hard drive.

Aug 12 13 08:03 am  Link  Quote 
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Dmitry Bocharov
Posts: 23
Moscow, Moscow, Russia


maby someone have this nice psd?)
Nov 06 13 11:24 am  Link  Quote 
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