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bobbyp
Posts: 10
Leeds, England, United Kingdom


Mar 16 11 03:42 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Greg Curran
Posts: 204
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


it is amazing that those images get through to be printed.
Mar 16 11 04:54 am  Link  Quote 
Digital Artist
Eithne Ni Anluain
Posts: 1,422
Dundalk, Louth, Ireland


ROFLMAO!! Seriously! Always amazes me these get THROUGH to print! lol big_smile

Ya know its as bad as some covers currently being released. (Not by me of course coz I rock!) I'll try and find it, the model - she has a dislocated arm behind her head......
Mar 16 11 05:15 am  Link  Quote 
Digital Artist
Jealous Image
Posts: 261
Somerville, New Jersey, US


I guess the company owner, and the art director/photographer had a disagreement, and split the difference
Mar 16 11 05:17 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Kay_ Doll
Posts: 3
Manchester, New Hampshire, US


*Shocked*

Her thighs look like very skinny arms.. AHH.
Mar 16 11 05:24 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Nienna1990
Posts: 568
Tel Aviv-Yafo, Tel Aviv, Israel


lol, these threads never stop to amuse me hehe ^^
Mar 16 11 06:29 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Fashion Photographer
Posts: 14,388
London, England, United Kingdom


Forgetting anatomy for a moment, the way her thighs curve actually works well with the composition of the picture. And it's a better picture than 95% of those on MM - and certainly better than my own.
Mar 16 11 06:33 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Looks by Robert
Posts: 299
Florence, South Carolina, US


David-Thomas wrote:
Forgetting anatomy for a moment, the way her thighs curve actually works well with the composition of the picture. And it's a better picture than 95% of those on MM - and certainly better than my own.

at least you speak for yourself. hmm

Mar 16 11 06:40 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Julian Marsalis
Posts: 1,191
Austin, Texas, US


David-Thomas wrote:
certainly better than my own.

Well we all can at least agree with u on this part :p that retouch is pure ass and unreal as hell....

Mar 16 11 06:46 am  Link  Quote 
Model
bobbyp
Posts: 10
Leeds, England, United Kingdom


I guess it does work with the composition of the image. But then it becomes more of an art, rather than a photo.

Also on the link it goes on about the Ralph Lauren campaign, good read:)

http://www.stylebyme.net/wp-content/upl … mpaign.png
Mar 16 11 07:24 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
RINALDI
Posts: 2,431
Eindhoven, Noord-Brabant, Netherlands


I am a little bit skeptical. Some of them look valid and still wrong, but the one with filippa for example, where her waist is slimmer than her head, I just can't believe it went through at Tommy. I am sure someone made this and leaked it out as it was an official retouch. Maybe someone can point me to an online source that has the official ad, then I believe it.
Mar 16 11 07:56 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
RINALDI
Posts: 2,431
Eindhoven, Noord-Brabant, Netherlands


bobbyp wrote:
I guess it does work with the composition of the image. But then it becomes more of an art, rather than a photo.

Also on the link it goes on about the Ralph Lauren campaign, good read:)

http://www.stylebyme.net/wp-content/upl … mpaign.png

I posted just after you did so yeah thanks for the link wink

Mar 16 11 07:57 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Dimitrio
Posts: 1,000
Nassau, New Providence, Bahamas


bobbyp wrote:
Lol, who employs these people?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/artic … highs.html

lol! how could they forget her arm?  There's the photographer, the art director, the photo re-toucher, the layout composer, the page editor, and the publisher.


Aggressive airbrushing: Victoria's Secret came under fire last year after model Marisa Miller's arm was removed in the digital retouching process

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/artic … z1GmU1MG00

Mar 16 11 08:33 am  Link  Quote 
Model
bobbyp
Posts: 10
Leeds, England, United Kingdom


Haha...even to the un-trained eye this could be spotted!
Mar 16 11 09:53 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Black Swan
Posts: 1,080
Phoenix, Arizona, US


"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence [or taste] of the American public." - H. L. Mencken

The fact that there are comments being made justifies their view - ignoring this might have been better...
Mar 16 11 10:41 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Benski
Posts: 997
London, England, United Kingdom


Iam Rinaldi wrote:
I am a little bit skeptical. Some of them look valid and still wrong, but the one with filippa for example, where her waist is slimmer than her head, I just can't believe it went through at Tommy. I am sure someone made this and leaked it out as it was an official retouch. Maybe someone can point me to an online source that has the official ad, then I believe it.

I wonder if those two are deliberately distorted like that for billboards??

Because people will be looking upwards at them? If you look at a normal shaped girl plastered on the side of a building from the ground, they can look dumpy and pear-shaped.

Think that could be it? (lols @ the pencil thighs btw - that's just an art director with a slightly warped perspective on reality)

Mar 16 11 11:08 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
GD - Beauty Retoucher
Posts: 320
Los Angeles, California, US


I think the creative team of R.L. simply made it that way. They want to get noticed and it worked, they got press. When I saw the ad, it looks like one of those paintings with big heads.

for the victoria secret, i can think of several things.

1. One over controlling art/creative director or boss, that keeps telling the retoucher what to do, the retoucher just does not want to argue so he just did it to get over with.

2. Rushed for publication, send it now or it will not be printed, they never had time to review.

3. In los angeles, or even other places, I have to admit that there are people who makes it or they get the job because of who they know and how they look. so maybe, the people who got hired are the wrong people for the job.
Mar 16 11 11:11 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
DOBA Photography
Posts: 1,039
Joliet, Illinois, US


This is obviously a case of the "re-toucher" telling them he needs a raise......this is a case of "you get what you pay for"....and he decided for her thighs to look real that is another $1000.....lol
Mar 16 11 11:11 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
LDMDPhoto
Posts: 248
Birmingham, England, United Kingdom


These always astound me. I'm not very good with photo shop (for model retouching at least), but I think anyone with a brain cell would see these screaming mistakes.

These are the people that are being paid a fortune.. maybe if they put a tf call up they would get a better standard lol..  but that's a different thread.
Mar 16 11 11:29 am  Link  Quote 
Digital Artist
Michael C Pearson
Posts: 1,343
Agoura Hills, California, US


Benski wrote:
I wonder if those two are deliberately distorted like that for billboards??

Haha, I like the way you think! Still don't think that explains it.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-xzJCAoXCW7k/TYEBwPSk_lI/AAAAAAAAAVo/_De1VPixsMU/s1600/still-weird.jpg

Mar 16 11 11:29 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Benski
Posts: 997
London, England, United Kingdom


MP Retouch wrote:
Haha, I like the way you think! Still don't think that explains it.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-xzJCAoXCW7k/TYEBwPSk_lI/AAAAAAAAAVo/_De1VPixsMU/s1600/still-weird.jpg

Haha, not so much that one (only explanation I have for that is if they're going to mount it over a tunnel entrance and need dual carriageway traffic to go through the legs).

These ones:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/15/article-1366476-0B2F6D4100000578-373_224x454.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/03/15/article-1366476-0B2F6D4600000578-736_224x454.jpg

smile

Mar 16 11 11:35 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Phunke Pixie
Posts: 43
Munich, Bavaria, Germany


That bullshit just can't be true! For me, it's a stupid sabotage, black humour, joke... or whatever. VS's proved for the ages that at least they have a eye for what is esthetic...
I doubt that the other brands could afford such a failure either!
Don't believe in everything what the yellow press tells...
Mar 16 11 01:52 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
H5D PHOTOGRAPHER
Posts: 3,837
Gig Harbor, Washington, US


The really funny thing is the selection process for creative talent & the account execs that make the hiring decisions... got to love the results! lol
Mar 16 11 02:05 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
H5D PHOTOGRAPHER
Posts: 3,837
Gig Harbor, Washington, US


The really funny thing is the selection process for creative talent & the account execs that make the hiring decisions... got to love the results! lol
Mar 16 11 02:05 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Nadirah B
Posts: 28,521
Los Angeles, California, US


lol, how much do they really want the models to weigh when folks do this? LOL

Can they look a bit more realistic folks? LOL!
Mar 16 11 02:07 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Brooklyn Bridge Images
Posts: 9,207
Brooklyn, New York, US


Greg Curran wrote:
it is amazing that those images get through to be printed.

Not really
http://www.psdisasters.com/
Even worse VS F$#k-up here
http://www.psdisasters.com/2011/03/vict … unity.html

Mar 16 11 04:06 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
DavidLaskey Photography
Posts: 113
Chelmsford, Massachusetts, US


Maybe she really really really likes to ride horses...

Its victoria's secret.... like anyone is looking at the legs...
Mar 16 11 06:16 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Select Models
Posts: 35,616
Upland, California, US


Yep... SERIOUS Photoshop fuckup... OR... maybe she's an amputee... yikes

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/02/07/article-0-0D1299FF000005DC-165_468x635.jpg
Mar 16 11 06:33 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Select Models
Posts: 35,616
Upland, California, US


HonuCreativeArts wrote:
Maybe she really really really likes to ride horses...

Its victoria's secret.... like anyone is looking at the legs...

Yeah right... Victoria's Secrets puts on an EXTREMELY popular televised fashion show... and what do their models use to walk down the runway?... lol

Mar 16 11 06:37 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Geoff Jones
Posts: 1,505
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory, Australia


I'm guessing this is a marketting ploy... Here we are talking about it.
There is no way in hell a name like Victorias Secret would release images like this without knowing how horrible the post work is.
Mar 16 11 06:38 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Brooklyn Bridge Images
Posts: 9,207
Brooklyn, New York, US


Geoff Jones wrote:
I'm guessing this is a marketting ploy... Here we are talking about it.
There is no way in hell a name like Victorias Secret would release images like this without knowing how horrible the post work is.

I disagree...the site I linked before shows how the biggest world wide companies make these kinds of mistakes all the time.
Microsoft is another I rem with a screw-up a while back.

Mar 16 11 07:06 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
btdsgn
Posts: 2,212
Wahiawa, Hawaii, US


I just did a catalog job a couple of weeks ago and can't wait for the work to show up on photoshop disasters... But when they need 800 images done in 4 days, thats what happens. big_smile
Mar 16 11 07:07 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Geoff Jones
Posts: 1,505
Canberra, Australian Capital Territory, Australia


Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote:

I disagree...the site I linked before shows how the biggest world wide companies make these kinds of mistakes all the time.
Microsoft is another I rem with a screw-up a while back.

Hmm yeah you may be right.

Mar 16 11 07:09 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Michele Chevere
Posts: 102
Los Angeles, California, US


Wow! Who looks at the edits?!
Mar 16 11 07:16 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Sonik_Designs
Posts: 512
Eugene, Oregon, US


We all make mistakes, although, these are a bit more than the normal mistake
Mar 16 11 07:22 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Yum Yum Photo
Posts: 442
Park Ridge, New Jersey, US


Funny funny..... Probally fired experienced retouched to hire a less expensive newbie....
Mar 16 11 07:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Makeup Artist
Make-up Magic by Megan
Posts: 169
Baltimore, Maryland, US


I'm a MUA not a retoucher and i still believe i could do better then that lol. Please someone pay me what retouchers for VS and RL make!
Mar 16 11 07:51 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
R A V E N D R I V E
Posts: 15,867
New York, New York, US


these look more like easter eggs than oversight

small things so you could say "look what we did, can you spot it!" lol
Mar 16 11 07:51 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
P A P A R A Z Z I
Posts: 1,068
Chicago, Illinois, US


As usual i don't get how these morons get employed by mags yet i cant land a published gig for the sake of my life.
Mar 16 11 09:44 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
DAVfoto
Posts: 2,324
New York, New York, US


P A P A R A Z Z I  wrote:
As usual i don't get how these morons get employed by mags yet i cant land a published gig for the sake of my life.

maybe because you steal other peoples work.. your avatar looks eerrily familiar to a piece that I and Pete harrison did as a collaboration several years ago..

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v208/42/67/85500505/n85500505_30558559_2953.jpg

Mar 16 11 10:38 pm  Link  Quote 
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