George Anchev wrote:
I never said they were the same image. I just said the skin tone and the bluish rest of the scene were close as a palette. The aim is not to make VS's image flat but to get the color look, the chromatic channels. And yes, they are similar in color. It is just that VS's image is retouched and perhaps additionally enhanced light painted and the other one is just color graded.

I know it can be done with a lot of mask painting and adjustments. But the idea is to make the color grading based on original channels without the need for manual mask coloring piece by piece. Then a better action can be created (see the sister thread linked)

The technicolor 2-strip example in the sister thread has changed the green color of swimsuit to blue...you can't do that with fashion images for a client.

George Anchev wrote:
I never said they were the same image. I just said the skin tone and the bluish rest of the scene were close as a palette. The aim is not to make VS's image flat but to get the color look, the chromatic channels. And yes, they are similar in color. It is just that VS's image is retouched and perhaps additionally enhanced light painted and the other one is just color graded.

I know it can be done with a lot of mask painting and adjustments. But the idea is to make the color grading based on original channels without the need for manual mask coloring piece by piece. Then a better action can be created (see the sister thread linked)

They aren't close at all

Sid Vasandani wrote:
The technicolor 2-strip example in the sister thread has changed the green color of swimsuit to blue...you can't do that with fashion images for a client.

I hope you can make the difference between "I bumped into these images" and "I have to do this for a client".

Brian T Rickey wrote:
This is an interesting topic that has been running around this forum for the past couple of days or so.  I am sure you guys know this but Alien Skin Exposure 3 has several of these as presets.   Probably not perfect, but just wanted to throw this out there.  David I hope you don't mind I took your original photograph and ran it through exposure.

Yeah if you could remove my pic and use one of your own, I'd appreciate it. Honestly, I can't see how it resembles the desired look at all.

David-Thomas wrote:

Yeah if you could remove my pic and use one of your own, I'd appreciate it. Honestly, I can't see how it resembles the desired look at all.

No problem. I'll dig one up.

Brian T Rickey wrote:

No problem. I'll dig one up.

David-Thomas wrote:
Before:
After:

That's the look!

It's a brilliant technique to know. Normal skin's pretty chaotic, with red, green and blue values all over the place. You strip it down to 2 colour channels and you get much cleaner/purer hues... Not more realistic, but simpler - and that's often means more effective.

Cinema Post Production wrote:
How'd i do? I think it could be richer, but i'm curious on if anyone thinks this is the right direction

Awesome. Totally right direction.

Only thing with an image like this is you might decide the two key colours you want here are the skin and the green of the backdrop. You can do that, but you might have to mix the colours differently.

You can have Green and Blue set to 100% Green; or Green and Blue set to 100% Blue; or Green set to 50% Red, 50% Blue, etc. As long as you're getting a full colour image from 2 colour channels, anything goes.

And then just a Hue/Sat layer after it to adjust the overall Hue and get the skin looking right.

Benski wrote:

That's the look!

It's a brilliant technique to know. Normal skin's pretty chaotic, with red, green and blue values all over the place. You strip it down to 2 colour channels and you get much cleaner/purer hues... Not more realistic, but simpler - and that's often means more effective.


Awesome. Totally right direction.

Only thing with an image like this is you might decide the two key colours you want here are the skin and the green of the backdrop. You can do that, but you might have to mix the colours differently.

You can have Green and Blue set to 100% Green; or Green and Blue set to 100% Blue; or Green set to 50% Red, 50% Blue, etc. As long as you're getting a full colour image from 2 colour channels, anything goes.

And then just a Hue/Sat layer after it to adjust the overall Hue and get the skin looking right.

Thanks (On my Photography acct right now)I went and added a few steps, trying to duplicate it now, because like an idiot, i didnt write anything down. D'oh.

here is attempt # 2 and 3





If anyone testing this out needs a fitting image to work with, I can give a raw from this shoot for the learning curve NP.

cinema photography wrote:

Thanks (On my Photography acct right now)I went and added a few steps, trying to duplicate it now, because like an idiot, i didnt write anything down. D'oh.

here is attempt # 2 and 3

Love this

George Anchev wrote:
So if anyone did it - please share the process. That's the idea of the thread.

Here is an attempt of mine (just for fun styled as a cover for my FB page):

I have done it with curves and masks (the manual way) matching separately skin and background to the values measured above.

That looks excellent but it's a different effect, I think.

The teal and orange look is obviously huge in cinematography, but it's more a colour grading style or a film look - really good blog link on it in the Annie Leibovitz thread.

I think what sets Technicolor apart is how it simplifies a palette. It's usually well suited to displaying two strong complimentary colours, like teal and orange, or purple and green, but if you look at the first picture in this thread, you can see the transition through the magentas and yellows in the skin is quite complex. In 2-strip Technicolor it'd look more like one hue going through a simple saturation shift. Which is why it also looks a lot like colorised film.

Sid Vasandani wrote:

The technicolor 2-strip example in the sister thread has changed the green color of swimsuit to blue...you can't do that with fashion images for a client.

Really? Why not?

Tsykhra wrote:
OK, here is my reciepe to do 2-strip

Love it! That's a lot closer to the Aviator look than I could get it. Selective Colour's got to be the best way to tune it seeing how it works here. I've mostly tried to balance it with the Channel Mixer but of course you get more crosstalk trying to adjust colours.

Benski wrote:
Love it! That's a lot closer to the Aviator look than I could get it. Selective Colour's got to be the best way to tune it seeing how it works here. I've mostly tried to balance it with the Channel Mixer but of course you get more crosstalk trying to adjust colours.

Thanks )
And here is my way do make "mattes"
I make them through Selective Color as well

Red Matte for example:
All Blacks sliders of all colors (and Whites, Neutrals, Blacks) to -100, but in the Reds set Blacks +100
We do this in Absolute mode

You can do Red+Magenta, Yellow+Green, Cyan+Blue mattes as well. Just set Black on Magenta (Yellow, Cyan) to +100

This will produce even reacher colors in 3-strip output

Tsykhra wrote:
OK, here is my reciepe to do 2-strip

Very good indeed!

James Moro Photography wrote:
why are you guys trying so hard to figure out the VS photo????

they just added cyan into the grays into the blacks and neutrals for the background.

her skin tone is her skin ton.   maybe a tan-gray gradient map was added, but that's about it.

this photo isn't anything crazy like the mert & alas gucci photo from the other thread.

Hhahahah I just realised the original image was by victoria's secret. It looked like a dodgy image found on MM. No feeling.

James Moro Photography wrote:
this photo isn't anything crazy like the mert & alas gucci photo from the other thread.

Argee. The original pic is hardly 2-strip Technicolor, but I just wanted to share this technique. Maybe I should post to thread about 2-strip )

Tsykhra wrote:
Thanks )
And here is my way do make "mattes"
I make them through Selective Color as well

Red Matte for example:
All Blacks sliders of all colors (and Whites, Neutrals, Blacks) to -100, but in the Reds set Blacks +100
We do this in Absolute mode

You can do Red+Magenta, Yellow+Green, Cyan+Blue mattes as well. Just set Black on Magenta (Yellow, Cyan) to +100

This will produce even reacher colors in 3-strip output

Yeah I just figured out that one out myself the other day!

And you know a quick way to do the first step on your 2-step process: Channel Mixer -> Blue Channel -> and put the Blue down to 0% and Green up to 100%. I've got a load of 2-strip presets - different mixes, like 50% Red, 50% Blue on the Green channel.

Welcome to MM by the way! Great to have another Photoshop scientist here.

George Anchev wrote:
Btw, here is another look with a similar toning (not exactly the same, more orange in skin and more blue).

Have they used any fancy toning at all in that shot? I think not.

George Anchev wrote:
Btw, here is another look with a similar toning (not exactly the same, more orange in skin and more blue).

I was just looking into the 2-strip process and first I assumed as you did - that is similar to the images you show here, but looks like the 2-strip does not leave any cast, where the images here have exactly that - a teal cast in some colours/luminosity and bumping the red/orange in others hues.

more about it here: https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=795180

btw nice pic of Diana
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