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Photographer
NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 33,204
Los Angeles, California, US


for realism and draftsmanship - if you wish.

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OK done.
Oct 19 11 09:44 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 33,204
Los Angeles, California, US


No artists on MM?
Nov 03 11 09:45 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jeffrey M Fletcher
Posts: 4,344
Asheville, North Carolina, US


I was going through some files for elsewhere so I threw this up.

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pi … 5#25664605 18+
Nov 04 11 11:41 am  Link  Quote 
Model
ElizabethJ
Posts: 198
Portland, Oregon, US


you can critique the painting on my profile page if you want.  it's acrylic on canvas.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vsi2dWWuSck/TTi33RRwvAI/AAAAAAAAAeM/rivkiHgoGHU/s400/painting.jpg
Nov 04 11 11:45 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Terrell Gates
Posts: 1,042
Santa Fe, New Mexico, US


Have a go...

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/090729/10/4a708cce358e4.jpg
Nov 04 11 11:50 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Terrell Gates
Posts: 1,042
Santa Fe, New Mexico, US


Here's a drawing...

http://s3.amazonaws.com/artbreak/work_pictures/1935336/ARTWORK_0021a_inset.jpg

www.terrygates.com
Nov 04 11 11:55 am  Link  Quote 
Artist/Painter
MainePaintah
Posts: 1,737
Saco, Maine, US


No artists on MM?
I'm on the forums all the time!

So, go have a go!
Nov 04 11 12:04 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 33,204
Los Angeles, California, US


Jeffrey M Fletcher wrote:
I was going through some files for elsewhere so I threw this up.

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pi … 5#25664605 18+

I missed it

Jul 10 12 09:11 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 33,204
Los Angeles, California, US


Elizabeth June wrote:
you can critique the painting on my profile page if you want.  it's acrylic on canvas.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_vsi2dWWuSck/TTi33RRwvAI/AAAAAAAAAeM/rivkiHgoGHU/s400/painting.jpg

Looks quite good. Well observed.

I get a sense of two-dimensionality from parts of it, though, as if you are thinking of the scene as made of interlocking 2d color shapes, which to a large extent it is, but I feel you are not holding a solid conception of 3D form long enough in your mind as you work. I'm speaking mainly of the cloth areas.

Jul 10 12 09:14 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 33,204
Los Angeles, California, US


Terrell Gates wrote:
Here's a drawing...

http://s3.amazonaws.com/artbreak/work_pictures/1935336/ARTWORK_0021a_inset.jpg

www.terrygates.com

You have a nice confident style. I'm finding some of the anatomy a little confusing.

In the upper back and shoulder area I'm having a hard time identifying specific muscles and bones - the shoulder blades, for example.

Jul 10 12 09:17 pm  Link  Quote 
Artist/Painter
Dan Law
Posts: 129
New Orleans, Louisiana, US


I'll throw my proverbial hat into the ring.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110304/19/4d71adb024ece_m.jpg
Jul 10 12 09:22 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 33,204
Los Angeles, California, US


MainePaintah wrote:
No artists on MM?
I'm on the forums all the time!

So, go have a go!

I find your work a little too saturated for my taste, and I'm not as into strong outlines in paintings as I used to be, but those are matters of personal style and everyone doesn't have to paint the same way, so ultimately that's good.

The actual draftsmanship is quite good. Occasionally I find the anatomy a little indistinct - maybe in an armpit or somewhere else.

Sometimes I feel you use color too much over value to reveal form, and I wonder if the form would look sufficiently contrasty in black and white. I didn't actually look, though.

All in all pretty good.

Jul 10 12 09:25 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 33,204
Los Angeles, California, US


Dan Law wrote:
I'll throw my proverbial hat into the ring.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110304/19/4d71adb024ece_m.jpg

I would suggest looking through this thread:
http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=808677

I think in general you are too timid with contrast and with dynamic range. Everything is a bit washed out and the planes of the face are not confidently delineated.

http://jfrancis.smugmug.com/photos/i-TXTpt3F/0/O/i-TXTpt3F.jpg

I'd get a head like this and practice drawing it until I knew the planes of the head by heart.

http://www.planesofthehead.com/memorize … detail.php

Or get a skull and practice drawing it and fitting it into heads you see

http://www.digitalartform.com/archives/images/skullSketch02.jpg

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http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110304/19/4d71adb024ece_m.jpg

Here if you follow the jawline around it's not quite symmetrical and you lose part of it as it meets the hair.

Jul 10 12 09:33 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
a raw muse
Posts: 3,178
New York, New York, US


I'm not really a realist, but here's a quick sketch:

http://arawmuse.weebly.com/uploads/7/7/8/2/7782749/3862495_orig.jpg
Jul 10 12 09:34 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 33,204
Los Angeles, California, US


indefinite anomaly wrote:
I'm not really a realist, but here's a quick sketch:

It's not bad but I think it might be good to start with something light that is a little more gestural, and then going to something a little darker and a little more structural before going right to the contour.

Of course contour drawing is a valid exercise, but I personally start with those other things.

Jul 10 12 09:38 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
a raw muse
Posts: 3,178
New York, New York, US


NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:

It's not bad but I think it might be good to start with something light that is a little more gestural, and then going to something a little darker and a little more structural before going right to the contour.

Of course contour drawing is a valid exercise, but I personally start with those other things.

I've been doing more 30 second gestures such as:

http://arawmuse.weebly.com/uploads/7/7/8/2/7782749/3896322_orig.jpg

Thanks for reminding me of a few other things I need to work on smile

Jul 10 12 09:41 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Brian Ziff
Posts: 4,105
Los Angeles, California, US


I hope you can handle my gritty realism.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/krankykreme/realshit.png
Jul 10 12 09:48 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 33,204
Los Angeles, California, US


Brian Ziff wrote:
I hope you can handle my gritty realism.

You've mastered the first step. Your chimney is not on a diagonal.

Jul 10 12 09:51 pm  Link  Quote 
Artist/Painter
J Hale
Posts: 7
Los Angeles, California, US


Is this still active?

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/31029326

black and white and sad all over.
Jan 03 13 09:33 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 33,204
Los Angeles, California, US


J Hale wrote:
Is this still active?

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/31029326

black and white and sad all over.

This is good. I think I may like it best of your posted work.

I get a nice sense of roundness and volume and presence from this portrait that I don't feel as much in some others. The strokes have a nice energy to them.

You start to lose volume on this one below the head, so it doesn't quite feel as fully realized as the head does. It might benefit from more contrast, specifically darker darks.

All in all quite good.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121219/11/50d216e488dc8_m.jpg

Jan 03 13 09:52 am  Link  Quote 
Artist/Painter
Christopher Willingham
Posts: 21,859
Long Beach, California, US


Usually I'm the one offering critiques and tips in these types of threads - but it is usually a good thing to be on the receiving end...  Fire away.
Jan 03 13 11:05 am  Link  Quote 
Artist/Painter
Vincent Wolff
Posts: 2,865
Chicago, Illinois, US


what the hell....

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/060911/23/45063c35d8bda_m.jpg
Jan 03 13 11:35 am  Link  Quote 
Artist/Painter
Christopher Willingham
Posts: 21,859
Long Beach, California, US


Vincent Wolff wrote:
what the hell....

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/060911/23/45063c35d8bda_m.jpg

This has always been my favorite of your work here.  The composition and design is perfect.  The light is on point and the shadow detail just locks it in.

Jan 03 13 11:46 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 33,204
Los Angeles, California, US


Art of CIP wrote:
Usually I'm the one offering critiques and tips in these types of threads - but it is usually a good thing to be on the receiving end...  Fire away.

I like your colors and your energy and your themes. I like the confidence displayed in your contours, but sometimes I think there is a little hand waving regarding details in the interiors of the figures. It's definitely a very bold, graphic style, and I like it, but sometimes I'd like to see the anatomy a little more specific. In the case of Storm we see the mass of the thigh muscles running up the femur toward the anterior superior iliac spine on the pelvis, and the adductors breaking away, forming their own sub-mass as they head toward the pubic bone, and that's nicely realized, but I'd like to see that degree of observation indicated more in some of the other works.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110522/12/4dd95f4bc8df9_m.jpg

Same with the buildings here. I find some of the surfaces a little under detailed in places.

Cool stuff.

Jan 03 13 01:07 pm  Link  Quote 
Artist/Painter
Christopher Willingham
Posts: 21,859
Long Beach, California, US


NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:

I like your colors and your energy and your themes. I like the confidence displayed in your contours, but sometimes I think there is a little hand waving regarding details in the interiors of the figures. It's definitely a very bold, graphic style, and I like it, but sometimes I'd like to see the anatomy a little more specific. In the case of Storm we see the mass of the thigh muscles running up the femur toward the anterior superior iliac spine on the pelvis, and the adductors breaking away, forming their own sub-mass as they head toward the pubic bone, and that's nicely realized, but I'd like to see that degree of observation indicated more in some of the other works.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/110522/12/4dd95f4bc8df9_m.jpg

Same with the buildings here. I find some of the surfaces a little under detailed in places.

Cool stuff.

Now that... Is a damn good critique!

Jan 03 13 01:17 pm  Link  Quote 
Artist/Painter
Vincent Wolff
Posts: 2,865
Chicago, Illinois, US


Art of CIP wrote:

This has always been my favorite of your work here.  The composition and design is perfect.  The light is on point and the shadow detail just locks it in.

thank you, it seems to be a favorite of people.

Jan 03 13 02:05 pm  Link  Quote 
Artist/Painter
Jonathan Murray
Posts: 16
Selmer, Tennessee, US


Yes there ARE artist on MM. You know me. If not you get to know me.
Jan 04 13 04:47 pm  Link  Quote 
Artist/Painter
Jonathan Murray
Posts: 16
Selmer, Tennessee, US


Let me see if this works....
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8211/8305780764_03613285e0_c.jpg
Jan 04 13 04:55 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
NothingIsRealButTheGirl
Posts: 33,204
Los Angeles, California, US


Jonathan Murray wrote:
Let me see if this works....

You have an unusual style that brings to mind somewhat the 3D layered work of James Rizzi. It seems somewhat collage-based down to seemingly reusing heads from piece to piece. Your work is very 'symbolic' in that by using perfect front views of heads so often you convey more the idea of a head than a specifically observed head.

I'd push even further in that direction and make the assamblage nature of the work even more obvious, so wee feel multiple sources for the imagery even within one figure.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/121209/13/50c508d7778b9_m.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/76/Vincent_van_Gogh_-_De_slaapkamer_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg/300px-Vincent_van_Gogh_-_De_slaapkamer_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg

http://www.vangoghstudio.com/images/detail%20bridge.jpg

You sometimes have a fairly stylized space. I'd push it even more, and make the floors more vertical, somewhat in the direction van gogh went after seeing Japanese art.

http://www.color-wheel-artist.com/images/color-wheel-secondary.jpg

You uses a lot of purple, some green and all skin tones are somewhat in the orange family, so you are using the traditional secondary color palette. I don't get a strong sense that you are working deliberately within a palette. Might be good to do so.

Also you are not really subordinating lesser elements (making them dimmer or less saturated, for example) to guide the eye. The result seems naive in the artistic sense, and somewhat 'clash-y,' which is great if that's your intention, but it means you make the viewer sort of meet you halfway, which some may find off-putting.

Bottom line: push further in your current direction.

Jan 04 13 05:50 pm  Link  Quote 
Artist/Painter
Jonathan Murray
Posts: 16
Selmer, Tennessee, US


Thanks for the critique. I don't know how much the pic below differs from what you've seen in my port, but it is my most popular piece on my other site.
http://i45.tinypic.com/2n6wv21.jpg
Jan 05 13 05:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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