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DNJphotography
Posts: 47
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


Hi Folks,

Not sure if this has been said before on the forums. However after giving LR4 a go for the past few weeks I'm starting to wonder what the go is with making Adobe Lightroom 4 so slow?

The clone tool in particular is most annoying. Batch edits and exports are also a nightmare. It takes a good 8mins to export 150 .JPG from RAW format. At the moment I'm considering just keep the Lightroom 3 version.

I've spoken with Adobe but they seem to pass of the issue and keep implying my current system may be a bottleneck for Lightroom . Yet I'm about to edit 4gb .PSD files pretty much on the fly.

My current PC specs are I72600K @ 5Ghz, GTX570 graphics, 32Gb DDR3 using SSD as boot. Storage wise I'm using 2 Adaptec 5series running a complex raid setup. Suffice to say the Read/Write speed exceeds 1200MB/s so hardly a bottle neck. There is a 500Gb Raid 0 partition set for scratch disk.

Anyone else having issues with Lightroom 4 running slow?
Apr 01 12 04:59 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Bryan Benoit
Posts: 1,979
Miami, Florida, US


Have you tried downloading LR 4.1 RC?  I haven't done it myself but it is supposed to resolve some of the issues you describe
Apr 01 12 05:06 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Bryan Benoit
Posts: 1,979
Miami, Florida, US


The following issues have been fixed in the Lightroom 4.1 release candidate:
■Lightroom 4 did not properly open external applications when using the “Edit In” functionality.
■Point Curve adjustments made in Lightroom 3 have been restored.
■Addressed performance issues in Lightroom 4, particularly when loading GPS track logs, using a secondary monitor, and the controls within the Develop module.
■Ability to update DNG previews and metadata for more than 100 photos has been restored.
■This update allows for improved viewing of subfolders and stacks in folders with a large number of photos.
■It was possible that a layout of a saved book could be lost after quitting Lightroom 4.

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/ligh … ils#tabTop
Apr 01 12 05:16 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
DNJphotography
Posts: 47
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


Thank you, will give it a whirl tomorrow and report back how it goes.
Apr 01 12 05:33 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
PE Arts
Posts: 1,037
Somerville, New Jersey, US


if your on a MAC, skip LR4.1 it has lot of bugs supposedly
Apr 01 12 12:02 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Leighthenubian
Posts: 1,985
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


DNJphotography wrote:
Hi Folks,

Not sure if this has been said before on the forums. However after giving LR4 a go for the past few weeks I'm starting to wonder what the go is with making Adobe Lightroom 4 so slow?

The clone tool in particular is most annoying. Batch edits and exports are also a nightmare. It takes a good 8mins to export 150 .JPG from RAW format. At the moment I'm considering just keep the Lightroom 3 version.

I've spoken with Adobe but they seem to pass of the issue and keep implying my current system may be a bottleneck for Lightroom . Yet I'm about to edit 4gb .PSD files pretty much on the fly.

My current PC specs are I72600K @ 5Ghz, GTX570 graphics, 32Gb DDR3 using SSD as boot. Storage wise I'm using 2 Adaptec 5series running a complex raid setup. Suffice to say the Read/Write speed exceeds 1200MB/s so hardly a bottle neck. There is a 500Gb Raid 0 partition set for scratch disk.

Anyone else having issues with Lightroom 4 running slow?

Nope...pretty similar specs but both my machines have 8 & 16 GB of RAM respectively...it's very snappy all around. Even local brush adjustments which used to be an issue are fine now.

You may get more mileage out of the SSD as a scratch drive since programs don't access it much after they have loaded. It's the read and write speeds which see the benefit..

I just did a shoot with my Phase One gear and the 50+ MB files are not slowing down my workflow.

Apr 01 12 12:31 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ronald Nyein Zaw Tan
Posts: 2,218
Los Angeles, California, US


Make yourself known and voice here: http://forums.adobe.com/message/4306223#4306223

That's the thread and there are A LOT of users experiencing performance lags.
Apr 01 12 12:44 pm  Link  Quote 
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Jerry Nemeth
Posts: 22,927
Dearborn, Michigan, US


Windows 7 64 bit is recommended for Lightroom 4.

64 bit is also necessary for MAC.
Apr 01 12 12:47 pm  Link  Quote 
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Brooklyn Bridge Images
Posts: 8,203
Brooklyn, New York, US


DNJphotography wrote:
I've spoken with Adobe but they seem to pass of the issue and keep implying my current system may be a bottleneck for Lightroom .

My current PC specs are I72600K @ 5Ghz, GTX570 graphics, 32Gb DDR3 using SSD as boot.

Laughable that a system with your specs could cause poor performance
Are they saying LR wont run without 120GB + Ram and 16+ core system ?

Apr 01 12 01:12 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Optix
Posts: 210
Boston, Massachusetts, US


DNJphotography wrote:
Hi Folks,

Not sure if this has been said before on the forums. However after giving LR4 a go for the past few weeks I'm starting to wonder what the go is with making Adobe Lightroom 4 so slow?

The clone tool in particular is most annoying. Batch edits and exports are also a nightmare. It takes a good 8mins to export 150 .JPG from RAW format. At the moment I'm considering just keep the Lightroom 3 version.

I've spoken with Adobe but they seem to pass of the issue and keep implying my current system may be a bottleneck for Lightroom . Yet I'm about to edit 4gb .PSD files pretty much on the fly.

My current PC specs are I72600K @ 5Ghz, GTX570 graphics, 32Gb DDR3 using SSD as boot. Storage wise I'm using 2 Adaptec 5series running a complex raid setup. Suffice to say the Read/Write speed exceeds 1200MB/s so hardly a bottle neck. There is a 500Gb Raid 0 partition set for scratch disk.

Anyone else having issues with Lightroom 4 running slow?

How fast is your memory? What's your processor?
OS? 32 or 64 bit?

I have not uninstalled 3, hence was able to compare with 4, and 4 beats it everytime.

You may want to check your image catalog. It can actually become a resource hog in many respects, once your catalog hits 20 thousand images.

Apr 01 12 01:30 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Darren Brade
Posts: 1,697
London, England, United Kingdom


DNJphotography wrote:
Hi Folks,

Not sure if this has been said before on the forums. However after giving LR4 a go for the past few weeks I'm starting to wonder what the go is with making Adobe Lightroom 4 so slow?

The clone tool in particular is most annoying. Batch edits and exports are also a nightmare. It takes a good 8mins to export 150 .JPG from RAW format. At the moment I'm considering just keep the Lightroom 3 version.

I've spoken with Adobe but they seem to pass of the issue and keep implying my current system may be a bottleneck for Lightroom . Yet I'm about to edit 4gb .PSD files pretty much on the fly.

My current PC specs are I72600K @ 5Ghz, GTX570 graphics, 32Gb DDR3 using SSD as boot. Storage wise I'm using 2 Adaptec 5series running a complex raid setup. Suffice to say the Read/Write speed exceeds 1200MB/s so hardly a bottle neck. There is a 500Gb Raid 0 partition set for scratch disk.

Anyone else having issues with Lightroom 4 running slow?

Yes, I have the same problem too. I recall version 3.0 was pretty slow too until the first update. Very frustration after the migration of files to version 4!

Currently running on Win 8 CP 64, and was pleased with the speed increase running LR3, but LR4 has sapped the life out of it.

And before anyone asks, my machine is well above spec for LR4 Win 64, I also have my MCSE so know a thing or two about Windows.

Apr 02 12 12:56 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Darren Brade
Posts: 1,697
London, England, United Kingdom


hello again...
Apr 02 12 12:56 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
DNJphotography
Posts: 47
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia


Slow reply by myself but here it is..

iseethelightman wrote:
You may get more mileage out of the SSD as a scratch drive since programs don't access it much after they have loaded. It's the read and write speeds which see the benefit..

I just did a shoot with my Phase One gear and the 50+ MB files are not slowing down my workflow.

SSD drive is slower Read / Write Speed. I use Crystalmark to come to that conclusion. The only thing a SSD has on it is seek times. However I can't see that causing the issues. 
If you could download Crystalmark and run a benchmark selecting 500MB I'm more than happy to compare to show you the difference.

Ronald Nyein Zaw Tan wrote:
Make yourself known and voice here: http://forums.adobe.com/message/4306223#4306223

That's the thread and there are A LOT of users experiencing performance lags.

Thank you, will be having a few comments there.

Jerry Nemeth wrote:
Windows 7 64 bit is recommended for Lightroom 4.

64 bit is also necessary for MAC.

Running Windows 7 64bit version and 64Bit version of LR.

Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote:
Laughable that a system with your specs could cause poor performance
Are they saying LR wont run without 120GB + Ram and 16+ core system ?

That is exactly what I'm thinking however Photoshop runs faster than LR. I can open hundreds of 5D MkII RAW files all at once in Photoshop. But come to do anything with LR and it's sloooowwww..

Optix  wrote:
How fast is your memory? What's your processor?
OS? 32 or 64 bit?

I have not uninstalled 3, hence was able to compare with 4, and 4 beats it everytime.

You may want to check your image catalog. It can actually become a resource hog in many respects, once your catalog hits 20 thousand images.

I72600k
32GB DDR3 memory @1866Mhz
Windows 7 64Bit.
There is a total 2.4Ghz CPU and 1Gb DDR2 ram handling HDD duties on top of the CPU.

LR3 was never a issue. Once LR3 got past 400,000 images it took a few seconds to open but after that it was still quick.
The LR4 cat that I have at the moment is only 10,000 photos large.

Darren Brade wrote:
Yes, I have the same problem too. I recall version 3.0 was pretty slow too until the first update. Very frustration after the migration of files to version 4!

Currently running on Win 8 CP 64, and was pleased with the speed increase running LR3, but LR4 has sapped the life out of it.

And before anyone asks, my machine is well above spec for LR4 Win 64, I also have my MCSE so know a thing or two about Windows.

Welcome to the club of slow Lightroom 4. smile ( Pardon the sarcasm. )

PS: On Lightroom 4.1 and it made only tiny differences if any.

Apr 09 12 06:50 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
dperrault
Posts: 1
Brighton, Massachusetts, US


I have both lightroom 3 and 4.1RC open side by side, editing the same 21MP image. The slider adjustments and navigation in lightroom 3 are much faster and smoother then 4.1RC. I am going to try to switch back to 3.
Apr 20 12 05:01 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Norris Carden
Posts: 128
Tullahoma, Tennessee, US


I just spent a couple of hours manually downgrading the only LR4 catalog that I need to get back into LR3. Steps were:

1. In LR4, save all metadata to files... this creates sidecar files for raw images.
2. In LR3, import all folders/images...
3. compare flags, stars, etc and make the LR3 catalog match the LR4 catalog.

Someday I may move back to LR4, but at the moment LR3 is a much better product for my everyday use.
May 23 12 10:44 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
mathieu drut
Posts: 404
San Jose, California, US


Norris Carden wrote:
I just spent a couple of hours manually downgrading the only LR4 catalog that I need to get back into LR3. Steps were:

1. In LR4, save all metadata to files... this creates sidecar files for raw images.
2. In LR3, import all folders/images...
3. compare flags, stars, etc and make the LR3 catalog match the LR4 catalog.

Someday I may move back to LR4, but at the moment LR3 is a much better product for my everyday use.

What made you switch back to LR3?
The Develop module is so much better in LR4, now way I would consider going back.

May 23 12 11:35 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Matt Hylton Photography
Posts: 1
Grafton, New South Wales, Australia


mathieu drut wrote:

What made you switch back to LR3?
The Develop module is so much better in LR4, now way I would consider going back.

Perhaps he is like me. I recently thought I would update now. Just went to export 4k+ photos on my system. This would take about 6 hours on lightroom 3.4 I have jus read this forum and quit it at 44% after 12 hours. I need to get these photos up to my site for my wedding clients. It is embarrassing having to tie up my system with such poor performance. I run a I7 8gb ssd boot and 2 1tb raids one scratch disk the other for original files all backed up and supported by a gigabyte networked NAS running 3tb backup.

This is not a good release for people trying to use their LR for weddings or large exports. It performed exceptional during touch-up and cropping of images. However it has left this product without a export utility capable of exporting through any of my 4k of photos of my last weekends weddings.

May as well turn the red light on and go back to film if this is the processing time for this many photos.

May 24 12 04:18 pm  Link  Quote 
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