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Retoucher
Aleksandr Olkhovskiy
Posts: 164
Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk, Russia


Hello,
Big thanks to all who replied in previous thread, hopefully I learned alot from it.
Just finished this image, spended ton of time on it), please critique
http://aleksandrolkhovskiy.com/beforeaftersjw.html
Apr 12 12 08:52 am  Link  Quote 
Digital Artist
Andreea Cernestean
Posts: 495
Baia Mare, Maramure┼č, Romania


You've removed a couple of stray hairs on the left, but I can still see the tips going over her fingers.
Otherwise perfect from what I can see, but I'm no expert smile
Apr 12 12 09:45 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Aleksandr Olkhovskiy
Posts: 164
Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk, Russia


Andreea Cernestean wrote:
You've removed a couple of stray hairs on the left, but I can still see the tips going over her fingers.
Otherwise perfect from what I can see, but I'm no expert smile

Thanks, I know about hairs, just deadly tired already smile

Apr 12 12 09:50 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
TRC Photography
Posts: 613
East Brunswick, New Jersey, US


This is a fantastic retouch... beautifully done, and NOT overdone.  Nice work.  If your rates were reasonable, I would absolutely consider using you.

I feel no distraction because of the hairs over the fingertips... leave them or take them out... will not make any difference to me.
Apr 12 12 09:57 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Aleksandr Olkhovskiy
Posts: 164
Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk, Russia


TRC Photography wrote:
This is a fantastic retouch... beautifully done, and NOT overdone.  Nice work.  If your rates were reasonable, I would absolutely consider using you.

I feel no distraction because of the hairs over the fingertips... leave them or take them out... will not make any difference to me.

Thank you smile
I consider my rates very reasonable but its not 1-2hr work, so not 20$)
Now I'm scared, probably some big retoucher will come and destroy it smile

Apr 12 12 10:13 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Iliana Valeva
Posts: 350
Plovdiv, Plovdiv, Bulgaria


Looks overdone for me I can see the IHP here.Turn back a little and smooth the texture in the highlights a bit.
Apr 12 12 01:06 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
TRC Photography
Posts: 613
East Brunswick, New Jersey, US


Aleksandr Olkhovskiy wrote:

Thank you smile
I consider my rates very reasonable but its not 1-2hr work, so not 20$)
Now I'm scared, probably some big retoucher will come and destroy it smile

You can (and should) learn technique from other retouchers, but they are not to whom you should go to determine what is or is not overdone...your customers are photographers, so it is ultimately their opinions that matter.

Apr 12 12 01:17 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Aleksandr Olkhovskiy
Posts: 164
Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk, Russia


Iliana Valeva wrote:
Looks overdone for me I can see the IHP here.Turn back a little and smooth the texture in the highlights a bit.

Thanks for reply smile
Are you sure you see IHP? Maybe its oversharpening seems like IHP? I oversharpened it to show texture work better, cause it was retouched for portfolio. (2.4 px and 2nd pass 4 or 5pixels)
http://aleksandrolkhovskiy.com/angie__M … rpened.jpg
not sharpened version

Apr 12 12 01:53 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Iliana Valeva
Posts: 350
Plovdiv, Plovdiv, Bulgaria


This version is a lot better smile
Apr 12 12 11:36 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Aleksandr Olkhovskiy
Posts: 164
Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk, Russia


Iliana Valeva wrote:
This version is a lot better smile

but your previous statement stays true?

Apr 12 12 11:40 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Iliana Valeva
Posts: 350
Plovdiv, Plovdiv, Bulgaria


Yeah still seeing some IHP or too much micro D&B. But overall the 2nd version looks good
Apr 13 12 12:25 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Aleksandr Olkhovskiy
Posts: 164
Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk, Russia


Iliana Valeva wrote:
Yeah still seeing some IHP or too much micro D&B. But overall the 2nd version looks good

thanks smile

Apr 13 12 12:44 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Aleksandr Olkhovskiy
Posts: 164
Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk, Russia


dp
Apr 13 12 12:45 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Iliana Valeva
Posts: 350
Plovdiv, Plovdiv, Bulgaria


Yeah sure smile
Apr 13 12 12:56 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
FeatheredPixels
Posts: 327
Port of Spain, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago


I like the retouch you have done but with that much detail I think there is still a bit more that can be done to improve the image...

the lip line can use some tidying
the teeth can use some work
also the areas by the shoulders look fake, its too sharp
I notice some spill of the skin colour onto the nails..
I think the image should be tilted a bit to the left as well just to create a sense of symmetry

just my opinion... all in all, you did improve the image a whole lot...
Apr 13 12 08:19 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Aleksandr Olkhovskiy
Posts: 164
Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk, Russia


FeatheredPixels wrote:
I like the retouch you have done but with that much detail I think there is still a bit more that can be done to improve the image...

the lip line can use some tidying
the teeth can use some work
also the areas by the shoulders look fake, its too sharp
I notice some spill of the skin colour onto the nails..
I think the image should be tilted a bit to the left as well just to create a sense of symmetry

just my opinion... all in all, you did improve the image a whole lot...

thank you, I'm glad you like it overall smile

Apr 13 12 10:34 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
LightWriting
Posts: 399
Long Beach, California, US


I think you did a great job. I love it when the retouching doesn't look overdone. But since you asked LOL A couple of REAL tiny thoughts.

I've never liked the tiny catch lights that are at the bottom of the iris. Did you give any thought to toning down specular on the inner right eye

I like how you thinned the nose, but the skin color has gone a bit gray.

You might also want to take a second look at the highlights on her teeth.

Love the way you fixed the baby fingernail, but now the index fingernail looks short! LOL
Apr 13 12 10:57 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Aleksandr Olkhovskiy
Posts: 164
Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk, Russia


LightWriting wrote:
I think you did a great job. I love it when the retouching doesn't look overdone. But since you asked LOL A couple of REAL tiny thoughts.

I've never liked the tiny catch lights that are at the bottom of the iris. Did you give any thought to toning down specular on the inner right eye

I like how you thinned the nose, but the skin color has gone a bit gray.

You might also want to take a second look at the highlights on her teeth.

Love the way you fixed the baby fingernail, but now the index fingernail looks short! LOL

Thank you, will look into that

Apr 14 12 03:31 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Sinopa_Rin
Posts: 221
Fareham, England, United Kingdom


I don't really know anything about retouching but I really like the overall look of this. It looks natural and gorgeous. For me, the crease in the arm (bottom right corner) is really distracting. I don't know what you could do about this but that's all I can focus on at the moment.

Great job though!

Best wishes
~Rin
Apr 14 12 03:58 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Aleksandr Olkhovskiy
Posts: 164
Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk, Russia


Sinopa_Rin wrote:
I don't really know anything about retouching but I really like the overall look of this. It looks natural and gorgeous. For me, the crease in the arm (bottom right corner) is really distracting. I don't know what you could do about this but that's all I can focus on at the moment.

Great job though!

Best wishes
~Rin

Thanks smile, can't do anything about crease tho

Apr 14 12 07:01 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
OTTO poste1
Posts: 190
Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain


nice retouch.
Maybe you can try to take her left arm out, I dont feel it brings anything to the photo.
Apr 25 12 12:38 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Aleksandr Olkhovskiy
Posts: 164
Novosibirsk, Novosibirsk, Russia


ottoretouch wrote:
nice retouch.
Maybe you can try to take her left arm out, I dont feel it brings anything to the photo.

Thanks,
I definately tried it but it wasn't working

Apr 25 12 09:08 pm  Link  Quote 
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