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BOUDOIR
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New York, New York, US


http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/380591_10150773306818819_686583818_9378005_1463975651_n.jpg

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WHAT PROGRAM USED TO MAKE THIS??
May 02 12 06:42 pm  Link  Quote 
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Jacob Davis
Posts: 841
Boulder, Colorado, US


Photoshop.

smile

Really, you just need some smoke stock images or brushes. Set them into separate layers in Screen blending mode. Use free transform and warp to bend them into shape. Top it off by painting colors in to each layer (maybe use a new layer set to color blending and use the smoke layer to create a clipping mask), and paint on some colors, maybe followed with a strong gaussian blur.
May 02 12 07:06 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
BOUDOIR
Posts: 114
New York, New York, US


theres a lot of maybe's there... anyone know if this is a simple program brush smoke paint of some sort? prob not photoshop...??
May 02 12 07:24 pm  Link  Quote 
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Ruben Vasquez
Posts: 2,848
Puyallup, Washington, US


BOUDOIR wrote:
theres a lot of maybe's there... anyone know if this is a simple program brush smoke paint of some sort? prob not photoshop...??

The reason there's a lot of "maybe's" there is becomes there are numerous ways of producing that image or one very similiar. Without asking the original artist, suggested possibilities is about as good as it gets.

May 02 12 08:35 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
BOUDOIR
Posts: 114
New York, New York, US


well it looks to sharp to me a ps blend of sorts especially with the lines of the heart and whatnot... so it definitely looks like a different program with filter of some sort and a heart masking of sorts... i figured someone here on mm digital art/retouch etc would know what they are talking about or have seen this... so those maybes are not on point... couldn't be made that way... it could but it would have taken a long time to find the right pieces and fit them together... and there are balance decisions that were made that seem to be calculated b some random program
May 02 12 09:41 pm  Link  Quote 
Digital Artist
Andreea Cernestean
Posts: 495
Baia Mare, Maramureş, Romania


Perhaps this tutorial helps
In the above posted image it was done with a red/blue gradient on top set to "color" and another flame heart on top with slightly more uneven lines, in the natural color, set to screen mode.
May 02 12 11:19 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
SMASSH STUDIO
Posts: 1,019
Chapel Hill, North Carolina, US


BOUDOIR wrote:
theres a lot of maybe's there... anyone know if this is a simple program brush smoke paint of some sort? prob not photoshop...??

Brushes you can download them and tuts online

May 02 12 11:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jacob Davis
Posts: 841
Boulder, Colorado, US


BOUDOIR wrote:
well it looks to sharp to me a ps blend of sorts especially with the lines of the heart and whatnot...

I'm not sure I understand why its sharpness would suggest it was not done in photoshop...?

i figured someone here on mm digital art/retouch etc would know what they are talking about or have seen this...

Yes, and some of us have done things like this... in Photoshop, or GIMP, or Corel Paint, etc.

so those maybes are not on point... couldn't be made that way... it could but it would have taken a long time to find the right pieces and fit them together...

The maybes are there, as someone else pointed out, because there are numerous approaches to the subject. As for fitting the bits together, I suggested the free transform and warp tools. You can use those on multiple layers of smoke, plus masking, to fit the pieces together.

If the complaint is that it takes too long to make something like this, maybe you're better off finding what you need premade on a image stock site? Don't think I'm being facetious; really, if you don't have the time, find some free stock or brushes. I don't think there's a quick and easy solution otherwise.

May 03 12 06:50 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jacob Davis
Posts: 841
Boulder, Colorado, US


Andreea Cernestean wrote:
Perhaps this tutorial helps
In the above posted image it was done with a red/blue gradient on top set to "color" and another flame heart on top with slightly more uneven lines, in the natural color, set to screen mode.

Good stuff.

May 03 12 06:54 am  Link  Quote 
Digital Artist
Andreea Cernestean
Posts: 495
Baia Mare, Maramureş, Romania


Jacob Davis wrote:
If the complaint is that it takes too long to make something like this, maybe you're better off finding what you need premade on a image stock site? Don't think I'm being facetious; really, if you don't have the time, find some free stock or brushes. I don't think there's a quick and easy solution otherwise.

The pic posted is actually a stock image. Fotolia

May 03 12 07:49 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
BOUDOIR
Posts: 114
New York, New York, US


Jacob Davis wrote:

BOUDOIR wrote:
well it looks to sharp to me a ps blend of sorts especially with the lines of the heart and whatnot...

I'm not sure I understand why its sharpness would suggest it was not done in photoshop...?

i figured someone here on mm digital art/retouch etc would know what they are talking about or have seen this...

Yes, and some of us have done things like this... in Photoshop, or GIMP, or Corel Paint, etc.


The maybes are there, as someone else pointed out, because there are numerous approaches to the subject. As for fitting the bits together, I suggested the free transform and warp tools. You can use those on multiple layers of smoke, plus masking, to fit the pieces together.

If the complaint is that it takes too long to make something like this, maybe you're better off finding what you need premade on a image stock site? Don't think I'm being facetious; really, if you don't have the time, find some free stock or brushes. I don't think there's a quick and easy solution otherwise.

actually i was looking for more of the types of answers that i finally received here..sometimes a little push helps a lot..

May 03 12 07:52 am  Link  Quote 
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TKPhotos
Posts: 185
Palatine, Illinois, US


BOUDOIR wrote:

actually i was looking for more of the types of answers that i finally received here..sometimes a little push helps a lot..

There are also a number of special effects fire simulation plugins for programs like 3DS Max/Maya/Softimage/etc that will let you create fully animate-able 3d fire (with or without smoke) in all sorts of shapes and configurations.

May 03 12 08:01 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
moving pictures
Posts: 573
Los Angeles, California, US


BOUDOIR wrote:

actually i was looking for more of the types of answers that i finally received here..sometimes a little push helps a lot..

A bit arrogant.

May 04 12 08:47 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Nienna1990
Posts: 562
Tel Aviv-Yafo, Tel Aviv, Israel


Creativity?

and perhaps photoshop.
May 04 12 10:28 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Robert LC
Posts: 944
Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands


BOUDOIR wrote:
theres a lot of maybe's there... anyone know if this is a simple program brush smoke paint of some sort? prob not photoshop...??
BOUDOIR wrote:
well it looks to sharp to me a ps blend of sorts especially with the lines of the heart and whatnot... so it definitely looks like a different program with filter of some sort and a heart masking of sorts...

http://www.cod1.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/s6/scratch_head.gif

BOUDOIR wrote:
actually i was looking for more of the types of answers that i finally received here..sometimes a little push helps a lot..

Rrrrrright..

http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/i-see-what-you-did-there.png

May 05 12 03:04 am  Link  Quote 
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A-M-P
Posts: 16,390
Orlando, Florida, US


BOUDOIR wrote:
well it looks to sharp to me a ps blend of sorts especially with the lines of the heart and whatnot... so it definitely looks like a different program with filter of some sort and a heart masking of sorts... i figured someone here on mm digital art/retouch etc would know what they are talking about or have seen this... so those maybes are not on point... couldn't be made that way... it could but it would have taken a long time to find the right pieces and fit them together... and there are balance decisions that were made that seem to be calculated b some random program

It looks like it was done in Photoshop. It doesn't matter what program was use if you don't know how to work it  you wont get the same result. It is not a one click thing.

May 05 12 08:05 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Awesome Headshots
Posts: 2,154
San Ramon, California, US


A-M-P wrote:

It looks like it was done in Photoshop. It doesn't matter what program was use if you don't know how to work it  you wont get the same result. It is not a one click thing.

Maybe. big_smile

May 05 12 08:18 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
xenox
Posts: 15
New York, New York, US


BOUDOIR wrote:
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/380591_10150773306818819_686583818_9378005_1463975651_n.jpg

PLEASE PM ME
WHAT PROGRAM USED TO MAKE THIS??

i think its a plug-in, not done from scratch

May 06 12 08:57 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Graphirus
Posts: 260
Moscow, Moscow, Russia


May 07 12 03:18 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
BOUDOIR
Posts: 114
New York, New York, US


Graphirus wrote:
Check this out for Mac

http://neatberry.com/products/fumy/

i knew there had to be a plug-in and that someone didn't spend 6 hours working on that heart... thanks!

May 07 12 05:52 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Lanenga
Posts: 835
Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands


BOUDOIR wrote:
i knew there had to be a plug-in and that someone didn't spend 6 hours working on that heart... thanks!

Yeah that would be ridiculous! big_smile
It's way faster to write a program which can emulate "smoke" so others don't have to spend 6 hours trying.

Love the attitude...

May 07 12 06:08 am  Link  Quote 
Digital Artist
Andreea Cernestean
Posts: 495
Baia Mare, Maramureş, Romania


That seems to go around. A lot of people prefer quick & easy solution rather than putting time and effort into something.
May 07 12 06:25 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jacob Davis
Posts: 841
Boulder, Colorado, US


BOUDOIR wrote:
i knew there had to be a plug-in and that someone didn't spend 6 hours working on that heart... thanks!

I'm thinking ~30 minutes if you already have the brushes or image stock.

May 07 12 07:49 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jacob Davis
Posts: 841
Boulder, Colorado, US


Graphirus wrote:
Check this out for Mac

http://neatberry.com/products/fumy/

For 20 USD, that application may not be a bad replacement for my normal brushes + stock. If it can generate something comparable at the resolutions I need, I might try it. I don't see a demo though. Thanks for the link.

Edit: found the demo. Will have to try it out when I get home.

May 07 12 07:57 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
BOUDOIR
Posts: 114
New York, New York, US


May 07 12 09:27 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
BOUDOIR
Posts: 114
New York, New York, US


May 07 12 09:32 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
BOUDOIR
Posts: 114
New York, New York, US


Jacob Davis wrote:

this one is even better:
http://www.goodwp.com/3d/15358-temp-temp2.html

May 07 12 09:35 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jacob Davis
Posts: 841
Boulder, Colorado, US


Edit: Nevermind. Not really worth it.
May 07 12 09:39 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
BOUDOIR
Posts: 114
New York, New York, US


May 07 12 09:48 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Robert Beyer
Posts: 159
Wolverine Lake, Michigan, US


TKPhotos wrote:

There are also a number of special effects fire simulation plugins for programs like 3DS Max/Maya/Softimage/etc that will let you create fully animate-able 3d fire (with or without smoke) in all sorts of shapes and configurations.

I would be tempted to agree with this. I've seen incredible graphics done in like , say Blender or Carrara which are both free I think. I'm always trying to mix real and surreal in future projects. Still following the long learning curve at this point.

May 14 12 03:37 pm  Link  Quote 
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Robert LC
Posts: 944
Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands


TKPhotos wrote:
There are also a number of special effects fire simulation plugins for programs like 3DS Max/Maya/Softimage/etc that will let you create fully animate-able 3d fire (with or without smoke) in all sorts of shapes and configurations.
Robert Beyer wrote:
I would be tempted to agree with this. I've seen incredible graphics done in like , say Blender or Carrara which are both free I think. I'm always trying to mix real and surreal in future projects. Still following the long learning curve at this point.

Hmm, to be honest, it's generally more difficult to create realistic fire with cgi than by using..real fire lol
Seriously, these images can be, and most likely are, made by using real stock (brushes) and some coloring.

Try to dissect the image.
What do you really see, not what does the final image looks like, but what are the elements?

1) You see thick cloudy smoke, colored magenta/deep red on one side and blue/violet on the other.
2) You see whiffs of smoke and flames, shaped into a heart.
3) You see fire ember.

Can you find these elements, in photographs or even brushes?
Yes
Can you color this in photoshop?
Yes (hue/saturation on 'colorize' setting or paint with color on a layer set to..'color' (or screen, depending on the contrast of your sourcefiles).

So why make it more complicated by using cgi?..

May 14 12 05:18 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Robert Beyer
Posts: 159
Wolverine Lake, Michigan, US


Can't disagree with you there. Very impressive if it's photoshop brushes.
May 14 12 05:49 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Robert LC
Posts: 944
Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands


May 15 12 04:50 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Daniel Ecoff
Posts: 400
SHERMAN OAKS, California, US


None, it was made by a person that has analytical thinking and resources.
May 15 12 04:54 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Robert LC
Posts: 944
Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands


Daniel Ecoff wrote:
None, it was made by a person that has analytical thinking and resources.

I believe too.
Materialized right from his/her brain.
Creation ex nihilo http://www.smiley-faces.org/smiley-faces/smiley-face-halo.gif

May 15 12 05:04 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
Peano
Posts: 3,747
Washington, District of Columbia, US


BOUDOIR wrote:
theres a lot of maybe's there... anyone know if this is a simple program brush smoke paint of some sort? prob not photoshop...??

It isn't a matter of what program. It's a matter of how to do it within a program. Photoshop can do it all ... with smoke brushes, puppet warp, and the usual color tools (hue/sat, selective color, curves, etc.).

Simple illustration.

Start with this:
http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/2505/warp1.jpg

Apply puppet warp etc., and end with this:
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4846/warp2f.jpg

May 15 12 05:19 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
BOUDOIR
Posts: 114
New York, New York, US


Robert LC wrote:

Hmm, to be honest, it's generally more difficult to create realistic fire with cgi than by using..real fire lol
Seriously, these images can be, and most likely are, made by using real stock (brushes) and some coloring.

Try to dissect the image.
What do you really see, not what does the final image looks like, but what are the elements?

1) You see thick cloudy smoke, colored magenta/deep red on one side and blue/violet on the other.
2) You see whiffs of smoke and flames, shaped into a heart.
3) You see fire ember.

Can you find these elements, in photographs or even brushes?
Yes
Can you color this in photoshop?
Yes (hue/saturation on 'colorize' setting or paint with color on a layer set to..'color' (or screen, depending on the contrast of your sourcefiles).

So why make it more complicated by using cgi?..

http://www.goodwp.com/large/201102/15358.jpg

May 31 12 12:30 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
E H
Posts: 362
Calgary, Alberta, Canada


BOUDOIR wrote:

i knew there had to be a plug-in and that someone didn't spend 6 hours working on that heart... thanks!

Someone somewhere spent hours doing the work for the plug-in,,,, in photoshop

  Guess you'll neverknow what you could of done  EASY BOTTON

May 31 12 12:51 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Rick Dupuis Photography
Posts: 6,686
Truro, Nova Scotia, Canada


Lanenga wrote:

Yeah that would be ridiculous! big_smile
It's way faster to write a program which can emulate "smoke" so others don't have to spend 6 hours trying.

Love the attitude...

+10000000

Jun 01 12 08:05 am  Link  Quote 
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