From what I can gather from Nikon Rumors the FX D600 is going to be released relatively soon, unfortunately my budget is going to limit me to a DX format camera.
I researched and am ready to pull the trigger on a used D7000.
Am I going to be kicking myself in August or September when a D400/D7100 is released? The rumor is one more DX release this year, I believe. I can wait until AUG/SEPT if I was certain one was coming out. If I have to wait to have one in my hand until December - I'd rather buy the D7000 now.
When in doubt, I will wait. A new camera unlikely will to improve your craft in a short run. I had been waiting for my D200 replacement for more than 2 years. Now I have my D800E, I am so glad I resisted buying a D700. No regret.
The D7000 is in some ways the best DX camera around (in the Nikon line). What it lacks are a professional quality body / controls (but some like the small / lightweight body) and the focusing speed / accuracy of the D300s
So if you do not really need the pro style body and controls and are not counting on shooting action, you will probably be happy with the D7000
If rumours hold true, there may be a pro bodied DX camera with 20-24MP and the focusing system of the D300s or D800 on the way. Is it worth it to you to wait for those features?
Connor Photography wrote: When in doubt, I will wait. A new camera unlikely will to improve your craft in a short run. I had been waiting for my D200 replacement for more than 2 years. Now I have my D800E, I am so glad I resisted buying a D700. No regret.
YMMV.
I had the D300...and I too resisted in buying the D700..and now going to buy the D800.
You'll always be kicking - as we all do when our current model becomes passe'
Ask yourself "Delay vs Return" do you lose opportunity/money/clients/skill set by waiting for the next generation.
I have been needing to upgrade my D300 for the simple reason that its starting to wear-out. It hasn't compromised a shoot.....yet. But it has given a couple of anxiety jolts.
My immediate thought was D800 - for vid, and pixel increase (I often shoot billboards)
But DX to FX can run the $$$. Besides it's doing the job quite well - now if the 600 is going to run full frame, something I do want to work with, it may enter consideration. A plus here is all my prime lenses are FX.
But by holding off, I missed spending on all the models that have come since (300s, 7000, 3100, 0U812 etc etc.)
Also since the 800 seems to having green tint issues - I'll continue to hold off and see what develops.
Remember "the early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese."
Currently I have a D90 and my business is growing. I need to purchase DX right now because of limited funds (my lenses are DX). The plan is to buy the DX body this year to upgrade and to have a back-up body (in my D90).
Higher ISO and having more than 1 body are a necessity right now. I can wait for 3 or 4 months if I "have" to - so I don't miss out on maybe 12,800 range ISO - instead of the 6400 ISO of the 7000. Plus, I would like to shoot 1080p at 30fps and have the 60fps option.
Hopefully I can continue to expand and next year I'll have more funds and I'll purchase a D800 and FX pro lenses.
WickedStudioNET wrote: Currently I have a D90 and my business is growing. .
You have answered your own question. Seize the opportunity, buy the damn camera now to grow your business. Opportunity often comes once. Don't mix the emotional decision with the business decision. I am just sayin'
Connor Photography wrote: You have answered your own question. Seize the opportunity, buy the damn camera now to grow your business. Opportunity often comes once. Don't mix the emotional decision with the business decision. I am just sayin'
Carry on.
This is definitely the way I'm leaning. It would be a shame to kill my business because I don't have a back-up body at a wedding.
I read that D600 news also... have decided to sell my D7000 (and two lenses) NOW... and wait for that camera when it comes out. Seriously been bitten by the FX bug (love my D700) and gonna jump head first into that pool within then next two months...
Select Models wrote: I read that D600 news also... have decided to sell my D7000 (and two lenses) NOW... and wait for that camera when it comes out. Seriously been bitten by the FX bug (love my D700) and gonna jump head first into that pool within then next two months...
I would love to move to FX now and just be done with it, but I just can't swing it yet.
WickedStudioNET wrote: I can wait for 3 or 4 months if I "have" to - so I don't miss out on maybe 12,800 range ISO - instead of the 6400 ISO of the 7000.
If 3 or 4 months is the maximum time you can really afford to wait? You're better off getting a D7000 now. Unless they announce the D7100 tomorrow, the odds of it being available for purchase in 3-4 months are pretty slim, I would think.
If 3 or 4 months is the maximum time you can really afford to wait? You're better off getting a D7000 now. Unless they announce the D7100 tomorrow, the odds of it being available for purchase in 3-4 months are pretty slim, I would think.
I honestly wouldn't recommend using the D7000 above 2500 ISO. I've used it quite a few times at 1600 ISO with very satisfying results, but it starts to get alittle noisey above that. The real champions at 6400 ISO and above are the D700, D3s, D800 and new D4. The undisputed king being the D3s... with the D4 right on it's coattails. Rumor has it that the ($1,500) D600 will have the new D4 chip in it. When that camera finally comes out, it will be Nikons 'best bang for the buck' in low noise/high ISO performance...
Select Models wrote: I read that D600 news also... have decided to sell my D7000 (and two lenses) NOW... and wait for that camera when it comes out. Seriously been bitten by the FX bug (love my D700) and gonna jump head first into that pool within then next two months...
+1
Last year, I was gung-ho about crop-sensor cameras and even as recently as the end of the wintertime I was still rambling-on about how CS cameras were gonna take-over with their massive DOF, etc. I'd only shot with crops up until this year. Then...I got the swing of using my D3 better, and started seeing and taking advantage of the differences between my D3 and my D90. I was intelligent, and bought only real lenses (non-DX lenses) when buying new lenses, so I wasn't/am not restricted in that way. I could use a fast prime with no falloff like lenses tend to be on FF cameras, but that's just 'frills'
If you're missing opportunities, then do what you must. However, the D90 is still a viable camera for many situations. I still make what I paid for it every month. Have since August 2011. I bought it for $600 in December 2010 Either wait and save for a real camera (35mm), or buy the D7000. It's here now, and things are changing all the time. The camera shouldn't limit you the moment new model cameras are released.
DBIphotography Toronto wrote: I got the swing of using my D3 better, and started seeing and taking advantage of the differences between my D3 and my D90. If you're missing opportunities, then do what you must. However, the D90 is still a viable camera for many situations.
True... was pretty happy with my D90 for afew years... then picked up the D700... WOW... world of difference to me. Goin FX all the way now. I will be keeping my D5100 and a few lenses for some stills and video work. Will be fulling switched over to FX with a few new lenses and that D600 by the end of this year...
Photokina isn't until Sept., and more likely than not that is when any new cameras are going to be announced.....not available. Most likely you'll be lucky to get one by Christmas. If you can't forsee waiting until the end of the year at soonest, then buy now.
Select Models wrote: I honestly wouldn't recommend using the D7000 above 2500 ISO. I've used it quite a few times at 1600 ISO with very satisfying results, but it starts to get alittle noisey above that. The real champions at 6400 ISO and above are the D700, D3s, D800 and new D4. The undisputed king being the D3s... with the D4 right on it's coattails. Rumor has it that the ($1,500) D600 will have the new D4 chip in it. When that camera finally comes out, it will be Nikons 'best bang for the buck' in low noise/high ISO performance...
This is disheartening to me - I thought that 6400 ISO differences in the D7000 and the D700 would be negligible. For sports right now I push my D90 to it's h.3 setting...appx 4200 iso and still have to shoot at only 200 or even 160 shutter speed in some light settings. I then still have to post process all the images to brighten and get rid of noise.
If 6400 is just a little noise in D7000 - that's golden for me. If it's similar to what I'm doing now on the D90 at 4200 - then I don't want to buy it.
Is the D700 really all that much better than the D7000 at 6400ISO and how do they compare to the D90 shooting at roughly 4200ISO?
If you have determined that you need a new camera body and the specs. of the D7k will do what you current camera doesn't and will meet your needs, pull the trigger. It's a great camera body. In camera technology you can be waiting all your life.
As far as strength of the body? Pzzzt. Same thing goes for focusing speed. I personally know two different people with D7k's and their cameras were mounted on tripods. One, wind hit it and tripod and camera and all blew over. The other the camera was mounted again on a tripod and was bumped and fell an additional 10 feet into a ravine. Both fell on rocks. In both cases it was the lens that broke. The bodies were fine.
Focusing speed. I shoot events like MotoGP and Sprint Boat races. Sprint boats accelerate from 0-100 in 3.5 seconds and pull 5 to 6 Gees in a turn. The focusing on the D7k hasn't had any problems keeping track of these subjects.
Don Olson Imagery wrote: If you have determined that you need a new camera body and the specs. of the D7k will do what you current camera doesn't and will meet your needs, pull the trigger. It's a great camera body. In camera technology you can be waiting all your life.
As far as strength of the body? Pzzzt. Same thing goes for focusing speed. I personally know two different people with D7k's and their cameras were mounted on tripods. One, wind hit it and tripod and camera and all blew over. The other the camera was mounted again on a tripod and was bumped and fell an additional 10 feet into a ravine. Both fell on rocks. In both cases it was the lens that broke. The bodies were fine.
Focusing speed. I shoot events like MotoGP and Sprint Boat races. Sprint boats accelerate from 0-100 in 3.5 seconds and pull 5 to 6 Gees in a turn. The focusing on the D7k hasn't had any problems keeping track of these subjects.
Thanks so much for your input. I'm anxious to get the D7k in my hands and start shooting.
WickedStudioNET wrote: This is disheartening to me - I thought that 6400 ISO differences in the D7000 and the D700 would be negligible. For sports right now I push my D90 to it's h.3 setting...appx 4200 iso and still have to shoot at only 200 or even 160 shutter speed in some light settings. I then still have to post process all the images to brighten and get rid of noise.
If 6400 is just a little noise in D7000 - that's golden for me. If it's similar to what I'm doing now on the D90 at 4200 - then I don't want to buy it.
Is the D700 really all that much better than the D7000 at 6400ISO and how do they compare to the D90 shooting at roughly 4200ISO?
I'm just providing that information from my personal experience, and judging from what I've encountered, those are only MY 'high ISO' recommendations. You may be utilizing more agressive noise reduction software that enables you to shoot at higher ISOs... and thats all fine and dandy for your applications. It's all a matter of personal preference...
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I'd personally avoid the D7000 like the plague, way too plasticky and toy like. The controls are tiny and the overall feel of the body inspires little confidence. It feels like a 'tourist' camera, albiet a high quality one.
Image wise, I doubt that you'll see much gain from a D300s.
I checked out the D7000 some time ago and passed in favour of the D300s, no regrets here!
Select Models wrote: I'm just providing that information from my personal experience, and judging from what I've encountered, those are only MY 'high ISO' recommendations. You may be utilizing more agressive noise reduction software that enables you to shoot at higher ISOs... and thats all fine and dandy for your applications. It's all a matter of personal preference...
...and I appreciate it very much! Worst case scenario, I need a back-up body for weddings and even if the high ISO performance is only marginally better, I'll still be satisfying that need. Thanks again.
London Fog wrote: I'd personally avoid the D7000 like the plague, way too plasticky and toy like. The controls are tiny and the overall feel of the body inspires little confidence. It feels like a 'tourist' camera, albiet a high quality one.
Image wise, I doubt that you'll see much gain from a D300s.
I checked out the D7000 some time ago and passed in favour of the D300s, no regrets here!
I'm shooting with a D90 right now and I think the D7000 body is an upgrade, even though just a slight one. I'm passing on the D300s because of the price difference. I want to spend the least that I can right now - so I can put that money next year into a true pro body and go completely FX.
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WickedStudioNET wrote:
I'm shooting with a D90 right now and I think the D7000 body is an upgrade, even though just a slight one. I'm passing on the D300s because of the price difference. I want to spend the least that I can right now - so I can put that money next year into a true pro body and go completely FX.
Is the D90 not sufficient for your needs, it's still a very capable camera? You'll be kicking yourself if Nikon release a D400/600 later this summer! Just a thought.
London Fog wrote: Is the D90 not sufficient for your needs, it's still a very capable camera? You'll be kicking yourself if Nikon release a D400/600 later this summer! Just a thought.
I need better low-light functionality for weddings & sports. I also need a second (back-up) body for weddings. I've thought long and hard about waiting for a D400 or D7100 - whichever may be announced this year. I need to have camera in hand for weddings booked in July & August. I just can't risk shooting with the D90 anymore.
The D600 is the only camera that has a slim chance of being shipped relatively soon, I'm thinking not until September. It's going to be FX I believe and I have DX lenses. So that won't work. I'm just guessing here, but I'm guessing the D400 will be around 1800-2000 and the D7100 will be around 1400-1600. I would also guess only one of those DX replacements is going to be shipped this year and probably not until late November or December.
I'm going to spend the least amount of money to have an acceptable upgrade now.....and save the money I would have spent on the newer versions to help with my planned full upgrade to FX a year from now. Plus, I'll have a clearer conscious with my equipment for the weddings I have booked this year.
Is the D90 not sufficient for your needs, it's still a very capable camera? You'll be kicking yourself if Nikon release a D400/600 later this summer! Just a thought.
Nikon has 3 new cameras coming out... D600, D7000 replacement? and D400?
Sept is the month I hear for the D600...Not sure on the other two dates.
OP....I would wait...I am...in the meantime I will be renting the D800.
Nikon has 3 new cameras coming out... D600, D7000 replacement? and D400?
Sept is the month I hear for the D600...Not sure on the other two dates.
OP....I would wait...I am...in the meantime I will be renting the D800.
I want to save the extra money I'd spend on one of the new DXs to spend on a D800 and pro FX lenses a year from now. With a year of shooting from now to when I can afford the upgrade - I think I'd spend less money buying the D7k - than renting. During fall sports - I generally shoot about 30 events a month.
DOUGLASFOTOS wrote: Nikon has 3 new cameras coming out... D600, D7000 replacement? and D400?
Sept is the month I hear for the D600...Not sure on the other two dates.
Rumor site claims an earlier release date for D600... mid-summer... it WILL HAVE the focus motor for older Nikon lenses... and it's on my BUY IT list... here's the details...
Guys, could you just accept that this is the OP business decision for him alone. It is just a tool. If the new camera is a hobby toy, I can understand.
Select Models wrote: Rumor site claims an earlier release date for D600... mid-summer... it WILL HAVE the focus motor for older Nikon lenses... and it's on my BUY IT list... here's the details...
I hadn't saw that update yet. Very cool! I'm tempted to wait, if it had 12,800 as standard range ISO - I just might. I truly don't have the money to invest in FX glass right now though.
Connor Photography wrote: Guys, could you just accept that this is the OP business decision for him alone. It is just a tool. If the new camera is a hobby toy, I can understand.
No, please - play devil's advocate for me. That's why I'm asking.
Either wait and save for a real camera (35mm), or buy the D7000. It's here now, and things are changing all the time. The camera shouldn't limit you the moment new model cameras are released.
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