I have been contacted by photographers that say they want to shoot with me and when I give them my schedule I NEVER hear back from them! A nice note saying they decided not to shoot or that they have picked someone else or ANYTHING is better than never hearing back!!!!!
Get used to it. It will happen often. Anyone can join and they do so for a variety of reasons. Some are serious and some aren't. It's as simple as that, unfortunately.
Karly Polkosnik wrote: I have been contacted by photographers that say they want to shoot with me and when I give them my schedule I NEVER hear back from them! A nice note saying they decided not to shoot or that they have picked someone else or ANYTHING is better than never hearing back!!!!!
There are only a few explanations. They are either; dead, flaky, stupid idiots, losers, or space aliens pretend to be human. So the suggestion is to move on not to worry about them. You don't want to have anything to do with those, right?
Karly Polkosnik wrote: I have been contacted by photographers that say they want to shoot with me and when I give them my schedule I NEVER hear back from them! A nice note saying they decided not to shoot or that they have picked someone else or ANYTHING is better than never hearing back!!!!!
It's Edmonton, we have like four people that shoot on a regular basis. I'm sure they're just messaging you with all the best intentions and then getting busy or distracted.
MM isn't super popular here, for main booking and discussion, although people need to see photos so keep the portfolio. Facebook is where all the trade happens.
This happens pretty often. I think people change their mind, or their schedules change, or they weren't serious about shooting to begin with. Sometimes people send out a ton of messages at the same time and respond to whoever replies first. It's annoying, but you ignore it or choose to not work with them in the future. The worst is when people flake for a scheduled shoot.
Karly Polkosnik wrote: I have been contacted by photographers that say they want to shoot with me and when I give them my schedule I NEVER hear back from them! A nice note saying they decided not to shoot or that they have picked someone else or ANYTHING is better than never hearing back!!!!!
I went in to the dentist a couple of days ago. The hygienist, Toni, had a standard list of questions that she had to ask all patients. When she got to the question...
"Do you have concerns about having bad breath?" ...
I answered...
"No; should I be concerned?"
So, maybe it's your breath.
No, seriously, that's the nature of social networks in particular and Internet relationships in general -- lots of people do fly-by-night contacts and immediately drop them.
My advice: don't worry about it. The serious folks will follow through, and you aren't losing anything by avoiding the people who don't.
Hi Karly. Whatever you do, don't let it affect your self-esteem. It isn't you.
I sense your age may have something to do with the situation. I am presuming Canadian laws are much like those in the USA where a parent has to sign a model's release? If so, perhaps the tog's don't want the hassle. And most photographers don't want escorts, yet an underage young woman almost necessitates one. It can get complicated fairly quickly, and this might cause photographers to start looking into things more thoroughly, and then back off.
Practically speaking, in the end, the photographers are going to be dealing with your parents. Your parents are going to want them to be certified professionals with a studio, and they likely won't be. Your parents are going to wonder why they want to photograph you in the first place...and on...and on...and on. Your parents may also have a problem with you "going out" to shoot on location with someone substantially older.
What I am getting at is that until you are an adult and can make your own decisions and sign your own contracts, you will likely have this problem. If you search MM by age, you might just find a lot of other under 18 girls that don't have a lot of activity in their ports either. You might even PM them for advice.
My only advice would be to see if you can come up with a pre-signed release...if that is legal...and then contact new photographers with studios where your parents will know you are safe.
Jorge Deepsea
Posts: 25
Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom
Unfortunately it happens everywhere. I work as an engineer and sometimes I'm never contacted again, others they do it several months later. Don't bother about it.
You're in the same city as Damianne, so I would imagine you will get some expert advice and feedback about the area's photographers.
I am often contacting MM models and saying I would like to work with them, but then not shooting for another year or even two years after that. The initial contact is really just saying, "hi, noticed, you, impressed, do you still exist, this is my project, would you be interested in future?" I do make it clear though that I am not looking to shoot immediately.
I complimented a model on a photo. She contacted me about working together when she traveled to my area. I told her I was interested and her rates were acceptable. I noticed she had an availability notice, not really in my area but not too far. I responded that I was still interested.
She blocked me.
Go figure. There is no rhyme or reason to how some people communicate with each other on MM. Don't go crazy trying to figure it out.
Vincent Arthur wrote: Go figure. There is no rhyme or reason to how some people communicate with each other on MM. Don't go crazy trying to figure it out.
Jay Farrell
Posts: 12,521
Nashville, Tennessee, US
They were either never very serious to start with, or something during the communication process made them change their mind....it's lame and unprofessional, but somehow people think it's normal and acceptable. But unfortunately, it does happen. Onto the next
I have gotten enough "No-reply" replies by now that it does not even bother me any more. What does however are the 3 models who have not replied to offers sent in response to "I would really love to work with you." messages. All 3 have read my message but no reply. So, What's up with that?
It could be that they are really busy. I meet a lot of models I want to shoot in person. But work has to come first and sometimes some projects take more time that you had expected. I'd say just shoot them an email.
Sometimes I lose track of my messages.
Sometimes the server doesn't tell me I have a new message.
Sometimes ... Many possible things, not necessarily
related to me not wanting to shoot with that person
There is no excuse for unprofessionalism and there is a lot of it on this website. However, there are gems here. When you find the right people to work with all can make money!
Being busy is no excuse. We are a very busy studio but I return email and messages every morning at 5:30 AM and then at random times during the day. I extend the same professional courtesy models, MUAs, hair stylists, etc. as I do to the art directors and photo editors I work with.
could your schedule be an issue? otherwise i wouldn't worry about it. mayhem can be like that (especially with trade shoots that are just for fun). just keep looking and hopefully you will find one that sticks around. some of these folks who disappeared might just be really busy and could get back to you eventually (you could always ping them again in a few weeks).
Cashe Monet
Posts: 377
Los Angeles, California, US
It happens...I had a photographer contact me about a shoot. I agreed, he said he would contact me once he had all his ducks in a row. A few days went by and I didn't hear anything, so I contacted him again... He said he was putting together the final pieces and again would contact me shortly. A few days later I look at his port and he shot the concept with another model. Things happen...maybe he liked her look better. Nothing to get butt hurt over. Chuck it up to life and move on. Besides I didn't really like their finished product anyway so it was actually a win for me
Karly Polkosnik wrote: I have been contacted by photographers that say they want to shoot with me and when I give them my schedule I NEVER hear back from them! A nice note saying they decided not to shoot or that they have picked someone else or ANYTHING is better than never hearing back!!!!!
Chuckarelei wrote: There are only a few explanations. They are either; dead, flaky, stupid idiots, losers, or space aliens pretend to be human. So the suggestion is to move on not to worry about them. You don't want to have anything to do with those, right?
Aside from that, they may not have initially realized that she's 16.
Eric Harrell
Posts: 256
Shelbyville, Tennessee, US
Don't let it get to you if a model or photographers doesn't reply back. It may be a difference in styles of photography. Some styles just don't fit what the other person is looking for. If thats the case, move on to the next one.
I see some profiles here of newbies and in the very first paragraph they are talking about their rates. C'MON MAN !!!!!!! You just have to find the right model/photographer for you. Don't frett, that person is on here.
Eric Harrell wrote: Don't let it get to you if a model or photographers doesn't reply back. It may be a difference in styles of photography. Some styles just don't fit what the other person is looking for. If thats the case, move on to the next one.
Cashe Monet wrote: It happens...I had a photographer contact me about a shoot. I agreed, he said he would contact me once he had all his ducks in a row. A few days went by and I didn't hear anything, so I contacted him again... He said he was putting together the final pieces and again would contact me shortly. A few days later I look at his port and he shot the concept with another model. Things happen...maybe he liked her look better. Nothing to get butt hurt over. Chuck it up to life and move on. Besides I didn't really like their finished product anyway so it was actually a win for me
All I can say is "WOW". They must be a fool. Your look and work is fantastic.
I think I get more frustrated when you spend a couple of weeks exchanging emails and ideas, Set up a shoot then at the last minute the models flake or don't show up at all.
Karly Polkosnik wrote: I have been contacted by photographers that say they want to shoot with me and when I give them my schedule I NEVER hear back from them! A nice note saying they decided not to shoot or that they have picked someone else or ANYTHING is better than never hearing back!!!!!
I believe that a lot of MM is about attention. If you give them attention by responding to them, then that is enough for them. They rarely go ahead with shoots, at least with real models. I have had it happen to me. Many times.
Darren Brade
Posts: 1,547
London, England, United Kingdom
Damianne wrote:
It's Edmonton, we have like four people that shoot on a regular basis. I'm sure they're just messaging you with all the best intentions and then getting busy or distracted.
MM isn't super popular here, for main booking and discussion, although people need to see photos so keep the portfolio. Facebook is where all the trade happens.
+1
MM is great for displaying your port and to glean useful info from the forum, however its networking tools are very antiquated in comparison to Facebook. Most areas have a local FB group where things happen.
Many reasons....
Some might be too busy, some might have PC or connection problems....
But of course some 're just find out what they want or not in the moment.
A photographer asked me for a shoot & the themes I wish to shoot....
After I sent him several themes with samples & asking him (in a polite way) is he doing TF or paying??
He just never get back.
Soon I browsed on his albums & juz found out mostly he shoots lingerie for Asian models, & only casual shoot with White & Latino models.
So I assumed that I 'm not what he 's looking for as I don't provide lingerie modeling at this time.
Also some PM-ed me to ask for a shoot & expect me to pay them;
They never get back after found out that I might not able to pay them.
Just move on and leave the time for the right person.
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