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I'm not asking for free work, it's practice removing an item from an image I don't see how this differs from many a post on here. I'm allowing it for use in retouching portfolios as well.

Amanda Stevens wrote:


I'd love for the table to be removed if at all possible...plus any color or textures you want to add I'm game to see what you can come up with

I took the shot and retain all copyrights...please post results here as well as provide me with full res image...Must ask permission before putting in port.

Model is not on MM

RAW image available. CR2

I am pretty sure the guy who took the photo (or his assistant) could have removed the table.

Just saying.

I'm "the guy" who took this photo...

Just saying.

And by doing so they would not have the benefit of the mixed lighting coming from a lamp on that table which would significantly impact the creative effort of the photographer... just saying...

As for retouch... I suck otherwise I would have a go at it...

Hope someone takes on this challenge.

Thanks...and no worries...I'm "ok" at editing and effects but my skills at removing items lack when it comes to this type of thing...and yes the lamp was definitely beneficial despite how yellow it was to light her as no flash was used for this photo.

This is sort of like TFCD between models and photographer which means that if a photographer provides a retoucher a practice image free of charge then the right thing for the retoucher who accepts the challenge  is to provide the photographer an image of suitable size for their professional portfolio.

For those who do not know most serious professional printed portfolios for photographers are 16x20 hence the need for hi res. Puny 8x10's do nothing for the photographer.

Asking for the full resolution image back to you. is like asking for free work   my dear. 

just don't ask for full resolution back, and will sound better.

Ok if you think this are the new rules send  it to the moderators and tell them you are adding new Rules to the Forum LOL.
The rules are  Don't demand images back to you. if you wish to participate share images  so we can have fun. sounds like I killed to birds with one stone  hehehee.

So what you're saying (other than confusing "two" with "to") is that I have to send my RAW files to a retoucher and not expect anything in return? Am I allowed to shoot a model without a memory card since he or she doesn't need to expect images for her time on a trade shoot?

It's the retouchers' attempt to garner paid work. Why pay a florist when you can pick ditch weeds, you know?

I guess a closer analogy would be giving a random stranger your car keys and asking them nicely to top off the tank when they bring it back.

It's a problem I've had with these "challenge" free-for-all forums for a looooong time. As far as I'm concerned, NONE of this stuff should be happening. If you want to discuss tips/tricks, that's great. But I don't think anyone should be allowed to post this "practice" stuff.

yes other than  confusing the to with two.....  you can send   raw files to a retoucher   and ask for F.R.  image back,only is you are hiring him as your retoucher,

other Than that----> share the Images and don't expect anything back.no one is forcing you to share images in the Practice/ challenge forum
Simply like that ... you also go read the rules little brother LOL and drink a beer

LOL!!! This is insanely confusing.

digiretouch365 wrote:
other Than that----> share the Images and don't expect anything back. no one is forcing you to share images in the Practice/ challenge forum
Simply like that ... you also go read the rules little brother LOL and drink a beer

You do realize what this sounds like, right? This kind of thing only encourages copyright violation.

totally agree...plus no one is forcing YOU as a retoucher to retouch! No one other than you clicked the link to look through this forum...

NO worries I'm not retouching your image for sure.
is there were not people like you  we wouldn't have rules and moderators in the forum.  remenber not freebies let me finish my ice cream and go to bed, It's getting late,
you can seat around and wait for the image to pop up, some one would do the freebie for you.......  Have a good night Peace

I do, if the retoucher requests that I'll be glad to send over more CR2s

but I disagree on expectations. I keep promises and I expect others to do the same especially those who want to be considered professional. I'll commit to you if you show the willingness to commit to whatever the project may be. I'm not saying I expect it back within 24 hours because that's absurd...but I do expect it back within a week or two at the most a month and I don't feel like that's being unreasonable. A model shooting TF expects photos within a week or two...why is this any different. (rhetorical not wanting to start a debate any more than this has since it's the complete wrong category)

I think unless you're interested in editing this photo and partnering with me on this than every thing else should be taken to a new thread.

digiretouch365 wrote:

NO worries I'm not retouching your image for sure.
is there were not people like you  we wouldn't have rules and moderators in the forum.  remenber not freebies let me finish my ice cream and go to bed, It's getting late,
you can seat around and wait for the image to pop up, some one would do the freebie for you.......  Have a good night Peace

hopefully your ice cream is the reason your typing is so awful.

Enjoy it and have a great night...thanks for all your "help"

LOL I speak Broken English , so If you don't Understand it ,you have to guess it . or google it LOL   you're bad

Not sure why you are discussing expectations in your response to me.  I just clarified the rules that you agreed to abide by when you joined Model Mayhem and hoped that rather than the snippy comments, just providing the facts would be helpful.  I made no comment regarding time, or keeping commitments, etc.

Also, I provided a good tip on what would help the retouchers who do choose to undertake your project.

I think all these comments are relevant as they all apply to this topic and thread.

digiretouch365 wrote:
NO worries I'm not retouching your image for sure.
is there were not people like you  we wouldn't have rules and moderators in the forum.  remenber not freebies let me finish my ice cream and go to bed, It's getting late,
you can seat around and wait for the image to pop up, some one would do the freebie for you.......  Have a good night Peace

You are bordering on the asinine, now. YOU don't want to work for free, but you think it's okay for photographers to post their work gratis for retouchers to play with?

If a photographer post his work here he is ok with the rules, if not why do post the image at all?If youre not ok with the rules you have every right to start your own mayhem like site with your own rules... and see how that goes...

+1

Exactly

How come this is so difficult and those asking literally for free work throw in all sorts of irrelevant arguments?

+1
It's asinine to disregard the rules, and expect people to ignore that.
It's asinine to post in a forum which has, in your opinion, asinine rules.

You can tapdance around it, but you're wrong.
Period.

I keep coming across forums where I find retouchers not moderators acting like mm police calling out people who want something retouched or manipulated to use. If you disagree with  what the op is asking for why not just skip the forum and move on to the next instead of debating on what is considered free work or not. All of it is practice? Why waste all the energy debating here when you can be retouching or creating art? Are you police, retouchers, artist, or people who like to nag? What's the big deal? Unless your are doing the retouch how does it effect you and why do you care?

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steve rosas wrote:
Something like this? I used your sample jpeg picture

great job!

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steve rosas wrote:
Something like this? I used your sample jpeg picture

This is what its all about, take note!

I was thinking that too...but I really don't like that table lol