Do i have the right to complain to a photographer about his work?
for Example: Model out of focus, Autoflash, Bad lighting,..or in most cases a cheap camera ect..
Lets be real Retouching is just that ... Retouching..to me its not miracle working.js
I'm an retoucher not the best but certainly not the worst and I've been on a assignment that i had to backed out of because the photographer wanted these looks
http://www.gavinoneill.com/engine/SID/1000132.htm
with this kind of photo Example:
Am i right ..the photographer has to do his job to achieve that high end quality..its not just on the retoucher job Right
If you believe you cant achieve what your client is wanting from the photo he/she is sending you then, yes, you can complain. Not so much about how he's doing his job, just about how that one photo(s) wouldnt work to achieve the look he's aiming for. Takes two personally.
Peano
Posts: 3,744
Washington, District of Columbia, US
SskTouch wrote: Do i have the right to complain to a photographer about his work?
No, not unless you've paid the photographer to shoot for you. Otherwise, the photographer isn't obliged to satisfy you.
If the quality of a photo won't allow you to achieve the result the photographer wants, report it to him as an unhappy fact (for him), not as a complaint from you. Example: "I can't give you a sharp image because the original is out of focus."
No, not unless you've paid the photographer to shoot for you. Otherwise, the photographer isn't obliged to satisfy you.
If the quality of a photo won't allow you to achieve the result the photographer wants, report it to him as an unhappy fact (for him), not as a complaint from you. Example: "I can't give you a sharp image because the original is out of focus."
SskTouch wrote: Do i have the right to complain to a photographer about his work?
for Example: Model out of focus, Autoflash, Bad lighting,..or in most cases a cheap camera
SskTouch wrote: Do i have the right to complain to a photographer about his work?
for Example: Model out of focus, Autoflash, Bad lighting,..or in most cases a cheap camera ect..
So the problem you find most common in the work submitted to you by your clients is how much they paid for their camera?
DAN CRUIKSHANK
Posts: 1,646
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
If I came to you with an image I wanted retouched and you decided you couldn't retouch it I would want to know why... but I wouldn't want to be insulted. If it is out of focus then say it is out of focus, if the image is too noisy then say it is too noisy to be successfully retouched. Basically, if the job can’t be done then so be it, but say so in a professional manner. Don’t insult the photographers work, simply point out the areas of the photo that make it impossible to retouch.
Let them know what the problem(s) is and what can be done about it (if anything). Some times with focus issues, you can borrow elements from other images in the set. Thats how I got this image in focus...
But you should remain professional at all times. If you feel the task is beyond your skill, then let them know.
I think there are tactful and non-tactful ways of communicating about these issues with clients.
In my opinion, it is not good business to complain to someone about the quality of the images they are supplying. If the photos are too low res, too blurry, too overexposed, or too-whatever, just tell them that unfortunately because of X you will not be able to do the work for them.
I had someone send me awful cell phone photos once, wanting retouching work... I told them that unfortunately due to the size of the image there was nothing I could do for them and that I did not feel right taking their money. That was it. It is my job to retouch images... not teach people how to take good photos.
SskTouch wrote: Do i have the right to complain to a photographer about his work?
Do you "have the right to complain"? No.... If you are paid...
Do you have an obligation to assist? Yes... If you are paid, then it is your job is to help a photographer's work
look good and as they want. If that means offering lighting suggestions, camera setting help, or pose
recommendations, then do it, but do this as positive help.
SskTouch wrote: Lets be real Retouching is just that ... Retouching..to me its not miracle working.js
Just as in life, you do the very best you can with the tools that are provided...
C.C. Holdings wrote: I don't see what the problem is. Retouchers can paint light and even swap skin.
Either take the job or don't take it.
Yeah but matching skin texture and skin direction (every area of the face for instance has a different kind of skin, and then the body skin is different than face) is very tricky. If you start with not enough information (blown out, blurry), then adding information from another picture will look unnatural. UNLESS the photog has multiple shots of the same subject, and these shots contain skin texture references.
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