No it's not going out of fashion in the actual fashion industry, where it counts.
It's just becoming increasingly trendy to address the issue and for journalists to curry favor with their female readership (the majority of whom are not ultra-thin) writing articles on the subject.
Michael Pandolfo wrote: No it's not going out of fashion in the actual fashion industry, where it counts.
It's just becoming increasingly trendy to address the issue and for journalists to curry favor with their female readership (the majority of whom are not ultra-thin) writing articles on the subject.
Michael Pandolfo wrote: No it's not going out of fashion in the actual fashion industry, where it counts.
It's just becoming increasingly trendy to address the issue and for journalists to curry favor with their female readership (the majority of whom are not ultra-thin) writing articles on the subject.
Abby Hawkins
Posts: 1,947
Boston, Massachusetts, US
Striking and interesting will always trump. The problem is, we find ourselves in a spinout with "THINNER THINNER THINNER - YOUNGER YOUNGER YOUNGER" (because, honestly, what's more shocking and eye-catching than a 5'11", size 00, 13-year-old?).
I found something interesting: television always showcased life as skinnier/more attractive than it actually is (sup, Friends). However, I've noticed that characters these days who model as their profession are way too "fat" to be real models. Still incredibly skinny, but a size 4 at 5'11" instead of a size 0. And it made me realize: are we to the point that our high fashion models are not enticing for the television set? That we need the "fleshier" girls who, in the actual modeling world, would get turned down for shows, to portray them?
Interesting situation we're in. Much like the current viewpoints on college, I see a complete transformation on what in industry standard in the next 5 or so years.
Actually, the models have gotten skinnier and skinnier!!! It used to be a size 6 was a good size, the old 36-24-36 was a good size, now its 31-23-34 (size zero) and a normal eight year old's waist is 22 inches, that's saying something.
I do not think the larger size model is catching on in Europe and USA at all. Let them keep dropping dead of anorexia.
K I C K H A M
Posts: 12,956
Los Angeles, California, US
Barbara Ford wrote: Actually, the models have gotten skinnier and skinnier!!! It used to be a size 6 was a good size, the old 36-24-36 was a good size, now its 31-23-34 (size zero) and a normal eight year old's waist is 22 inches, that's saying something.
I do not think the larger size model is catching on in Europe and USA at all. Let them keep dropping dead of anorexia.
For someone not far off from the "ideal" 34-24-34, that sounds quite interesting....
Fit is in. Health awareness is in. If you're overweight you're not going to get a lot of high end modeling work going forward. The image is of a "model" person, and a model person in our society is one who has their life together, which includes vigorous regular exercise and proper nutritional eating habits. In the same direction, anorexic is out, and it's just a few old people still pushing it in fashion, and when they're gone from positions of power you won't see malnourished looks very often at all.
Barbara Ford wrote: Actually, the models have gotten skinnier and skinnier!!! It used to be a size 6 was a good size, the old 36-24-36 was a good size, now its 31-23-34 (size zero) and a normal eight year old's waist is 22 inches, that's saying something.
I do not think the larger size model is catching on in Europe and USA at all. Let them keep dropping dead of anorexia.
You're on a roll today. You've been turned down because of age and physical characteristics and you're going to spew those sour grapes in every forum thread.
You should be happy towards those getting work, not bitter and wishing them harm because you're not one of them.
It's really not an attractive look and as many others have said in the other threads, if you're that sensitive and need constant validation perhaps modeling is not the proper hobby for you.
J Jessica
Posts: 1,710
Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, US
Barbara Ford wrote: Actually, the models have gotten skinnier and skinnier!!! It used to be a size 6 was a good size, the old 36-24-36 was a good size, now its 31-23-34 (size zero) and a normal eight year old's waist is 22 inches, that's saying something.
I do not think the larger size model is catching on in Europe and USA at all. Let them keep dropping dead of anorexia.
... Do a significant amount of men and women die of 'anorexia'?
I always thought heart disease, aids, diabetes, alzheimer's, cancer, etc. were the leading causes of death in most places.
Barbara Ford wrote: Actually, the models have gotten skinnier and skinnier!!! It used to be a size 6 was a good size, the old 36-24-36 was a good size, now its 31-23-34 (size zero) and a normal eight year old's waist is 22 inches, that's saying something.
I do not think the larger size model is catching on in Europe and USA at all. Let them keep dropping dead of anorexia.
I'm also curious where you obtained this insider industry knowledge. Or is it just your observation? "The old 36-24-36 was a good size"? A good size for what because that was never the fashion industry standard. A "good size" for Playboy Centerfold measurements? That's not fashion, that's glamour.
But you're right, maybe if EVERY thinner and younger model drops dead you've got a shot. smh.
I'm also curious where you obtained this insider industry knowledge. Or is it just your observation? "The old 36-24-36 was a good size"? A good size for what because that was never the fashion industry standard. A "good size" for Playboy Centerfold measurements? That's not fashion, that's glamour.
But you're right, maybe if EVERY thinner and younger model drops dead you've got a shot. smh.
Why would you turn the young ladies comment into a personal affront??
I do not do anything regarding "fashion", but I have driven extensively through the US and Florida and her "The old 36-24-36 was a good size" makes a lot of sense.
Just get in a car and drive your own state, those dimensions can be classed as skinny by todays average.
Trying to ignore some of the rude comments on this thread. I was expecting someone to accuse me of sour grapes and wishing harm on models. I do not wish harm on anyone. Its sad to see girls hurting themselves to be "ideal". I actually got attention in modeling after three years of anorexia where I went from a size 8 to a size 2-4. I'm tired of eating crackers and lettuce. After two hospital stays I'm beginning to realize it's not worth it, and even though I can starve to be the proper size, I cannot rewind the clock. What I really want to do is get a large glass of cabernet and find some happiness back in my life.
J Jessica
Posts: 1,710
Palm Beach Gardens, Florida, US
Barbara Ford wrote: Trying to ignore some of the rude comments on this thread. I was expecting someone to accuse me of sour grapes and wishing harm on models. I do not wish harm on anyone. Its sad to see girls hurting themselves to be "ideal". I actually got attention in modeling after three years of anorexia where I went from a size 8 to a size 2-4. I'm tired of eating crackers and lettuce. After two hospital stays I'm beginning to realize it's not worth it, and even though I can starve to be the proper size, I cannot rewind the clock. What I really want to do is get a large glass of cabernet and find some happiness back in my life.
Barbara Ford wrote: Actually, the models have gotten skinnier and skinnier!!! It used to be a size 6 was a good size, the old 36-24-36 was a good size, now its 31-23-34 (size zero) and a normal eight year old's waist is 22 inches, that's saying something.
I do not think the larger size model is catching on in Europe and USA at all. Let them keep dropping dead of anorexia.
What in the actual fuck?
Please, do share how many are dropping dead from anorexia?
K I C K H A M
Posts: 12,956
Los Angeles, California, US
Barbara Ford wrote: Trying to ignore some of the rude comments on this thread. I was expecting someone to accuse me of sour grapes and wishing harm on models. I do not wish harm on anyone. Its sad to see girls hurting themselves to be "ideal". I actually got attention in modeling after three years of anorexia where I went from a size 8 to a size 2-4. I'm tired of eating crackers and lettuce. After two hospital stays I'm beginning to realize it's not worth it, and even though I can starve to be the proper size, I cannot rewind the clock. What I really want to do is get a large glass of cabernet and find some happiness back in my life.
Just because something isn't healthy for you, doesn't mean it isn't healthy for someone else.
Barbara Ford wrote: Actually, the models have gotten skinnier and skinnier!!! It used to be a size 6 was a good size, the old 36-24-36 was a good size, now its 31-23-34 (size zero) and a normal eight year old's waist is 22 inches, that's saying something.
I do not think the larger size model is catching on in Europe and USA at all. Let them keep dropping dead of anorexia.
It is not okay to bash other women's body types to make yourself feel better.
It is complete fuckery and foolishness to pull imaginary stats out and wish death on people to make yourself feel better.
Ask the mods to lock/hide this as a mercy. Having bitter rants like this associated with you in an easily searchable form will not do your booking rate any favors.
Just checked on Google...
Apparently in the USA, 1 in 200 women suffer from Anorexia.
Up to 20% of those with Anorexia will die from it.
One of the main ways in which Anorexia is purported to kill these women is by suicide.
It is labeled as a mental disorder... and I guess if you kill yourself and are extremely thin, then those statistics are part of the Anorexia statistics, not part of the suicide statistics.
That's 0.5% of women who get anorexia in the US, 5% of those who will die from it... some of those deaths being self-inflicted.
That's a 0.001% chance of dying from Anorexia.
For comparison, your chances of dying from food poisoning are 0.0065%
For every two women who die from anorexia, 13 will die from food poisoning.
Math is not my specialty, so feel free to check... and the numbers I got from Google, could in fact have come from anywhere and may not be current or accurate.
Sirensong
Posts: 2,160
Cardiff, Wales, United Kingdom
Barbara Ford wrote: Actually, the models have gotten skinnier and skinnier!!! It used to be a size 6 was a good size, the old 36-24-36 was a good size, now its 31-23-34 (size zero) and a normal eight year old's waist is 22 inches, that's saying something.
I do not think the larger size model is catching on in Europe and USA at all. Let them keep dropping dead of anorexia.
Anna Adrielle
Posts: 17,059
Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium
not really, no. there's a bit more variety though, I think
and also, personally... I think the unhealthy look is a bit out. I don't know when it was exactly, but there has been a trend for several years for model to look a little bit... I don't know what word to use, but a little bit drugged or very tired almost? the whole "heroin chic" thing?
and I think, even though the sizes of the models haven't really changed, nowadays we do put a little more emphasis on them looking more fresh, happy, glowing again, which we automatically associate quicker with health?
just a thought.
Anna Adrielle
Posts: 17,059
Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium
Lars R Peterson wrote: Just checked on Google...
Apparently in the USA, 1 in 200 women suffer from Anorexia.
Up to 20% of those with Anorexia will die from it.
One of the main ways in which Anorexia is purported to kill these women is by suicide.
It is labeled as a mental disorder... and I guess if you kill yourself and are extremely thin, then those statistics are part of the Anorexia statistics, not part of the suicide statistics.
That's 0.5% of women who get anorexia in the US, 5% of those who will die from it... some of those deaths being self-inflicted.
That's a 0.001% chance of dying from Anorexia.
For comparison, your chances of dying from food poisoning are 0.0065%
For every two women who die from anorexia, 13 will die from food poisoning.
Math is not my specialty, so feel free to check... and the numbers I got from Google, could in fact have come from anywhere and may not be current or accurate.
just because people don't die from it, doesn't mean it's not a serious problem
Barbara Ford wrote: Trying to ignore some of the rude comments on this thread. I was expecting someone to accuse me of sour grapes and wishing harm on models. I do not wish harm on anyone. Its sad to see girls hurting themselves to be "ideal". I actually got attention in modeling after three years of anorexia where I went from a size 8 to a size 2-4. I'm tired of eating crackers and lettuce. After two hospital stays I'm beginning to realize it's not worth it, and even though I can starve to be the proper size, I cannot rewind the clock. What I really want to do is get a large glass of cabernet and find some happiness back in my life.
So you dealt with anorexia and still post the cold comment to let others drop dead from it?
Also, you don't need to starve yourself to be the proper size. Unless your bones are naturally husky (which is rare), every woman can be skinny with the proper exercise and nutrition. Although malnutrition can get you skinny, it's definitely not a healthy way to go about it...
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