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JaydenRiches
Posts: 249
Stuttgart, Baden-Württemberg, Germany


Ok i m experiencing a weird problem now...any other filter is quite fine but the surface blur is taking a really long time ...up to 20 minutes until i get a new preview no matter what i change.
I have CS6 and a HD Radeon 6790 anyone knows whats going on or what might cause the problem?
Jun 20 12 11:10 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
MamboPhoto
Posts: 2,216
Aylesbury, England, United Kingdom


Depending on the amount of blur/radius used, Surface blur will be extremely slow, I don't think it's just you that has this problem!

My PC often takes 3-4 minutes for only a moderate amount of blur.

Go make yourself a coffee while you're waiting.
Jun 20 12 11:17 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
JaydenRiches
Posts: 249
Stuttgart, Baden-Württemberg, Germany


great...thats exactly the answer i didnt wanted to hear. Oh well its gonna be more than just one coffee with that many images
Jun 20 12 11:35 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Feverstockphoto
Posts: 260
Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom


Seconds here using gtx 550 ti, (cuda helps). Also check your settings, edit, preferences, perfomance. Gpu and other settings, scracth disk etc...
Jun 20 12 12:20 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
REVIVE retouch
Posts: 63
Margate, England, United Kingdom


just dont use blur, problem solved
Jun 20 12 12:24 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Robin Cordiner
Posts: 39
Belfast, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom


You could create an new Action, batch process them and head off down the pub while your computer grinds through them.
Jun 20 12 12:40 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
outwiththeold
Posts: 185
Chapel Hill, North Carolina, US


Boost your preference to like 90%
Jun 20 12 12:44 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
JaydenRiches
Posts: 249
Stuttgart, Baden-Württemberg, Germany


REVIVE retouch  wrote:
just dont use blur, problem solved

sadly its needed for specific work situations.
Guess i gotta check my preferences

Jun 20 12 03:07 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Inams Photography
Posts: 45
Toronto, Ontario, Canada


How much Ram are you Using ...   and which version of CS6    32 or 64Bit 
if it is 32 Bit it sucks on memory and if you dont have 64bit system, then while working on Photoshop turn rest of application OFF,  even Browser , Chat software  etc...   and under preferences  allocate  60-70% available RAM to Photoshop.

Hope that Helps 


JFI ..  windows 32 Bit OS  only Support 3.89GB RAW    where as  64 Bit OS support around 192GB ...     and Ideal is to have Min 12GB RAM

hope that helps
Jun 21 12 05:36 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Jeff Fiore
Posts: 8,476
Pelham, New York, US


I have found when you use surface blur in 16 bit mode, it takes forever literally. On my old computer, it took an hour. 8 bit mode is much quicker, a few minutes tops.

I haven't tried it on my new comp.
Jun 21 12 05:41 am  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
IGRetoucher
Posts: 8
Los Angeles, California, US


JaydenRiches wrote:

sadly its needed for specific work situations.
Guess i gotta check my preferences

I've used blur maybe once in the past 3 years (and it wasnt for a skin problem). Non-destructive editing is when you will really see your work come alive. But I am always a supporter of using whatever works for you as an artist!  Also, CS6 may be slightly unstable since it is so new. Try checking for an update or adjusting your settings in the Surface Blur prompt. smile

Jun 22 12 11:26 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
eos3_300
Posts: 889
Brooklyn, New York, US


System Ram and CPU are the pertinent questions here
Video card specs are basically irrelevant
Jun 22 12 11:40 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Chuckarelei
Posts: 8,199
Seattle, Washington, US


That's nothing. Just wait if you have a Nikon D800 RAW in 16 bits, and you have 10 full layers composite while all your available RAM is max out, running on VM.
Jun 22 12 11:59 am  Link  Quote 
Digital Artist
Koray
Posts: 6,579
Ankara, Ankara, Turkey


make an 8 bit flat duplicate of the image you are working on and SurfBlur that big_smile
Jun 22 12 02:31 pm  Link  Quote 
Digital Artist
Koray
Posts: 6,579
Ankara, Ankara, Turkey


REVIVE retouch  wrote:
just dont use blur, problem solved

yeah it seems like you are doing just fine like that tongue

Jun 22 12 02:33 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Sebastian Petrovski
Posts: 3
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia


Try playing around with the cache levels and tile sizes.  Getting that set right, for your needs, can be very helpful.
Jun 22 12 08:36 pm  Link  Quote 
Retoucher
FLEXmanta
Posts: 940
Madrid, Madrid, Spain


None of the tips you've been given will help.

Surface Blur is an old filter with outdated code. As far as I know it is not multicore/multithread optimized and it is definitely not GPU optimized. Cuda/OpenGL/OpenCL... it just doesn't care.

Surface blur is slow, period, and more so on 16bit large images.

The workaround is to apply it to an 8bit duplicate document which you can later import as a layer.

This is part of Adobe's policy of bringing in new stuff (not always useful stuff) rather than fixing what hasn't worked properly since the version it was implemented.
Jun 23 12 04:14 am  Link  Quote 
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